"Scriptural Truth" : an experiment

[posthuman]

this thread is an experiment to test scientifically the following hypothesis:

Actually, you see it every single time somebody posts Scriptural Truth on this Forum.

The majority of the replies unite 'against' them.

so here's some scriptural truth as a test unit:

when we are faithless, He remains faithful

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(from 2 Timothy 2:13)

please respond naturally, just as you would with any other thread in this section of the forum.
thanks for your participation

 

[RobbyEarl]

How many times did Israel break their covenant with God and how many times did God keep it? He is faithful.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

How many times did Israel break their covenant with God and how many times did God keep it? He is faithful.

And what happened to those Israelites that were not faithful but rebelled against God in the wilderness?

 

[crossnote]

I see that passage...

If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
(2Ti 2:12-13)

as full of landmines for discussion. So it's not a matter of disagreeing but many try to flush out in discussion the meaning. Perhaps it is interpreted as 'disagreeing'?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

It's a great test question. GOD says his mercy endures forever. Those who doubt this are kidding themselves, and those who doubt that GOD will break off unfaithful branches are also kidding themselves. The break-off criteria (pun intended) seems to be denying the lord. Denial goes beyond just apostasy, as it said that many deny the lord through their works.

 

[Magenta]

I see that passage...

If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
(2Ti 2:12-13)

as full of landmines for discussion. So it's not a matter of disagreeing but many try to flush out in discussion the meaning. Perhaps it is interpreted as 'disagreeing'?

Not understanding something can be just as painful as understanding it. I don't know where I would be without the knowledge of God's love for me. Feeling unloved has been a terrible burden in my life that led me down many paths I would rather have not gone. Hindsight is twenty twenty vision, as they say. Knowing also that others want to feel loved, I have tried to do that also, and yet it is seemingly impossible to love everyone! How then are we to fulfill the commandment of our Lord, to love our neighbor as ourselves, and even our enemies? How can we be faithful to the Lord in all things? If I am friends with Peter and Peter hates Paul, then Paul will likely reject my friendship, or at least find it suspect. How can we be one when we are so divided amongst ourselves?

 

[Willie-T]

this thread is an experiment to test scientifically the following hypothesis:



so here's some scriptural truth as a test unit:

when we are faithless, He remains faithful

​

(from 2 Timothy 2:13)

please respond naturally, just as you would with any other thread in this section of the forum.
thanks for your participation

How many times did Israel break their covenant with God and how many times did God keep it? He is faithful.

This second post is so true. OUR being faithful is not a prerequisite to Him being faithful.

 

[notmyown]

Not understanding something can be just as painful as understanding it. I don't know where I would be without the knowledge of God's love for me. Feeling unloved has been a terrible burden in my life that led me down many paths I would rather have not gone.

been there. this song has been in my head all day.

♫ I've been thinking how You wept for Lazarus. Tears on Your cheeks; resurrection on Your lips.
Sometimes mercy can feel like abandonment...

But You know all about it. ♪ ♪

[video=youtube;WvcqCCBZiaM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvcqCCBZiaM[/video]



the things we learn through difficulties.
you learned to really love, and that's more than wonderful.

 

[Grace777x70]

And what happened to those Israelites that were not faithful but rebelled against God in the wilderness?

They died in the flesh because they would not believe in what God had done for them. ( unbelief )

The same can happen to us in this life if we don't believe in all that Jesus has done for us in His finished work. Jesus is our promised land. It is a picture of the Christian life being lived on this earth. ( Not going to heaven - there will be no giants to fight in heaven)

There were giants in the land for the Israelites to contend with and we have the flesh in us to contend with while on this earth - we have this treasure ( Christ in us ) in an earthen vessel so that the surpassing greatness of His power shall be of God and not ourselves.

There is no place for works in the flesh. It is all Him and His power in us working both "to will" and "to do" of His good pleasure. What a great salvation we have in Him!

2 Corinthians 4:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, so that the surpassing greatness of the power will be of God and not from ourselves;

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

There is no place for works in the flesh.

If you mean, there is no place for works of the flesh, then yes, because the works of the flesh are sin.

So in effect there is no place for sin in our lives, and in our new walk of righteousness by the faith of Jesus Christ, who knows no sin.

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

If you mean, there is no place for works of the flesh, then yes, because the works of the flesh are sin.

So in effect there is no place for sin in our lives, and in our new walk of righteousness by the faith of Jesus Christ, who knows no sin.

Yes, here are the works of the flesh

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[Grace777x70]

If you mean, there is no place for works of the flesh, then yes, because the works of the flesh are sin.

So in effect there is no place for sin in our lives, and in our new walk of righteousness by the faith of Jesus Christ, who knows no sin.

Amen..grace teaches us how to live godly in this world...

Would you answer the question below so that we understand what "living after the flesh" looks like in real life:

Let's look at this sin business for a bit. Slander is just as much a sin as fornication. ( Gal. 5 )

So, let's say someone has been slandering other people for years - like a minister that they didn't like. All of a sudden they die...does this one that was slandering people now not go to heaven?...in your thinking they would go to hell because they have been "living after the flesh"?

Or what about gluttony which is a sin - what if someone has a battle with overeating all the time and they die - do they go to hell because they were not able to overcome this as this is "living after the flesh" too?

These 2 scenarios above would be people "living after the flesh" and as you call being a servant to sin ( even though they are free in Christ but don't know it yet and haven't grown up in the Lord enough spiritually to overcome them ).

These 2 groups of people in your theology would not be children of God and thus go to hell..is that right?

 

[ember]

this thread is an experiment to test scientifically the following hypothesis:



so here's some scriptural truth as a test unit:

when we are faithless, He remains faithful

​

(from 2 Timothy 2:13)

please respond naturally, just as you would with any other thread in this section of the forum.
thanks for your participation

I would probably not be on planet Earth anymore as a physical representation of humankind if God were not constant in His faithfulness

When we are faithless, He remains faithful

 

[posthuman]

[video=youtube;WvcqCCBZiaM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvcqCCBZiaM[/video]

you learned to really love, and that's more than wonderful.

i quit striving for perfection;
surrendered up to it instead

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♪♫
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[HeRoseFromTheDead]

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[thepsalmist]

this thread is an experiment to test scientifically the following hypothesis:



so here's some scriptural truth as a test unit:

when we are faithless, He remains faithful

​

(from 2 Timothy 2:13)

please respond naturally, just as you would with any other thread in this section of the forum.
thanks for your participation

Actually ... don't mean to burst your bubble Posthuman ,,, hehe, but ... how unbiased can such a test be when the test subjects know it is a test and the reason for the test?

 

[Depleted]

this thread is an experiment to test scientifically the following hypothesis:



so here's some scriptural truth as a test unit:

when we are faithless, He remains faithful

​

(from 2 Timothy 2:13)

please respond naturally, just as you would with any other thread in this section of the forum.
thanks for your participation

Apparently I am responding as I usually do. I can't answer without knowing who is Me and what do you need a response about?

"Let's go egg the neighbor's house? Are you for or agin me?"

"I'm feeling left out. Are you for or agin me?"

"I'm Jehovah. Are you for or agin me?"

 

[posthuman]

Actually ... don't mean to burst your bubble Posthuman ,,, hehe, but ... how unbiased can such a test be when the test subjects know it is a test and the reason for the test?

of course you're right, haha!!

but goodness! pardon me for my full disclosure policy!
my lawyer insisted

 

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

this thread is an experiment to test scientifically the following hypothesis:

originally posted by AVoiceintheWilderness

Actually, you see it every single time somebody posts Scriptural Truth on this Forum.

The majority of the replies unite 'against' them.

This is nothing new; neither on this Forum, nor in the history of the world.

so here's some scriptural truth as a test unit:

when we are faithless, He remains faithful

​

(from 2 Timothy 2:13)

please respond naturally, just as you would with any other thread in this section of the forum.
thanks for your participation

Don't forget to let everybody know where you got that quote from.

Here's a link to the thread in progress.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/136535-your-church-condemned-10.html#post2636570

Thanks, PH!!

I agree, it's a serious matter for all to be aware of.

Keep up the good works!



God Bless

 

[ember]

Actually ... don't mean to burst your bubble Posthuman ,,, hehe, but ... how unbiased can such a test be when the test subjects know it is a test and the reason for the test?

c'est vrai! LOL!

reading the responses though, and knowing the players, it still works