Revelation 13 Jesus Christ 667

bikerchaz · Jul 30, 2016

I have done all my Greek and Hebrew and Aramaic stuff as a Christadelphian, all it does is confuse things and show how much knowledge a person has like a preening peacock. Not everyone has a Strong's, and accepting Jesus like a little child is not found in tomes.

Satan will use anything he can to usurp the simplicity of the gospel, didn't he infect the minds of the crowd when Jesus was sent for crucifixion? They wanted Bar-Abbus, literally translated "Son of the father" instead of the Son of God, the eternal Father.

If we spend time concentrating on satan we are not looking to Jesus, yes we have to acknowledge what 'old nick' gets up to but only so we can refute it. We don't have to know all the ins and outs of how he works just the surety we have within us a more powerful advocate who has already won the war. Why make it harder to win the skirmishes it left behind.

garee · Jul 30, 2016

Gladstone said:

Yes it is the number of natural man influenced by the god of this world Satan, the serpent or father of lies working in the affairs of men working through his lies to make the gospel without effect.

He has no form but uses form, as idol images in the likeness of men to deceive the nations. In that way if a person does believe he has form they have already been deceived.

I offer that it is why it is one of the most important things that we do not offend Christ, the anointing Holy Spirit of God by assuming the things of God who has no form are no different than the things of men. Scripture informs us we must walk by faith, the unseen, as the eternal things of God,and not the temporal things seen of men.

2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

It is the same motive of operation the serpent used in the garden. When he who has no form (Satan) used that form as the form that Adam and Eve were deceived by, as they walked by sight .

It made the faith of God without effect who also has no form . Adam and Eve only heard the voice of God. God desired they walk by faith according to the hearing of faith and not by sight as they did when they followed after the serpent.

God did not desire they lean by experience ,walking by sight which caused the fall. He departed and left an angel to guard the way back to Him

In 1 John 2 he is identified as the antichrist(another anointing spirit) who works rob the faith of Christ by insisting men need an outward form in respect to a man to teach us as the anointing teacher..

He warns us of that motive of operation in that chapter that defines the antichrist and those he influences, antichrists, as other christs, again other than our one Christ, the anointing Holy Spirit of God. He therefore informs us it is by the faith that comes from hearing him through the scriptures as it is written that we do abide in him and not man seen. The little word it in as it is written points to the faith of God, as the things of God .

These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and “ye need not that any man teach you”: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it (the faith of Christ) hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.1Jo 2:26

He simply will not share his glory as the anointing teacher with men.

It is as we are informed in 1 John 2. He the antichrist was already there at that time period working to try and make the gospel without effect. This shows us we are in the lasts days on this side of the first century reformation where we no longer have an outward representation. The veil was rent, the types and shadows with the use of the outward Jews had come to a end. Prophets were now recognized as coming from any nation .

There was much tribulation as to who to trust( put their faith in) or where to go. Again there were rumors he would come but he spoke plainly ; they are here. This was to take away all doubt as to the nature of the beast. .

1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

I what I believe is good example of him trying to make the gospel without effect that clearly keeps the same warning to distinguish the things of men seen, from those of God not seen is below.

Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, "Get thee behind me, Satan": thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourestnot "the things that be of God", but "those that be of men". Mat 16:22

Does it mean that Peter was not a believer ...no . What it does show is we are not to have the faith of Christ as our anointed teacher the Holy Spirit of God in respect to any man, as an outward form.

The refomation has come he has restored the gospel to its proper order.

posthuman · Jul 30, 2016

Gladstone said:

what else do we need to hear from you . . ?

ukok102nak · Jul 30, 2016

:haha: as it is written
:read:
Pahayag: 19. 19. And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20. And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

~;> so as it is written
:read:
Pahayag: 16. 13. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

:ty:

godbless us all always

posthuman · Jul 30, 2016

Gladstone said:

if this is true, then "the logical understanding" is also that

652 = 775 ((children of Arah))

2812 = 2818 ((Pahath-Moab))

845 = 945 ((Zattu))

648 = 642 ((Binnui))

628 = 623 ((Bebai))

2322 = 1222 ((Azgad))

2067 = 2056 ((Bigvai))

et cetera.
because there are a lot of differences in the numbers given in Nehemiah 7 and Ezra 2, not just that one number.
are you being consistent here, or just pulling a number out of its context?

garee · Jul 30, 2016

Where did the idea of counting words come from that gives us the spiritual understanding of parables in the first place?

Where the prescription that implies we rightly divide in that way?

tourist · Jul 30, 2016

666 is mentioned in the book of Revelation and not 667 so I don't see how that number has any spiritual significance.

ukok102nak · Jul 30, 2016

:haha: after the death of his human form
the beast shall took his human form to deceived all
somekind of norturing the VERY DNA OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
thats why they made those graven images
so that the mind set of the next generation could be easily establish
in this literal world
and this graven images is the one who will come to lead
and that is the hidden clue kinda way
and
by the way
my brethen postman (as :happy: told us that you are one of us)
your could used the power of the cubed to multiply it twice
then divide it into 0 and after that
you seach the result in the scriptures base on the letter
because those numbers were litterally written but without the
spiritual mathematical wisdom deep within you and unto others
it is impossible fot it to configure
because the letter killeth and the spirit giveth life
and those evil things like to killeth
both the flesh and spirit of goodness
inside those humans like us
as it is written
:read:
2 Corinto: 3. 6. Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

~;> so as it is written
:read:
Mangangaral: 5. 6. Suffer not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin; neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy voice, and destroy the work of thine hands?
7. For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear thou God.

:ty:

godbless us all always

ukok102nak · Jul 30, 2016

:rofl: hey you :haha: i told you before stop posting such a thing
because they would listen cause your a former antichrist
and
the best thing you we could do now is
to read those scriptures as it is written

ukok102nak · Jul 30, 2016

:haha: indeed my brethren :rofl:
although it is impossible for ours them and anyone
who want it to configure the numerical value
because it is written in hindu arabic numbers

InSpiritInTruth · Jul 30, 2016

Gladstone said:

Death and Life are personified in scripture. Death is working in the first man Adam (man of sin)....and Life is working in the second, which is the Lord from heaven.(man of righteousness)

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Here is where the 2 names are spoken of by the Lord....

Revelation 3:1
And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Those who still abide in the first man Adam still abide in the flesh, and also still abide in sin and Death. But those who are born again of God's Spirit have passed from Death to Eternal Life by abiding in Christ, the righteousness of God by the faith of Jesus Christ.

Romans 6:13
Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

ukok102nak · Jul 30, 2016

ukok102nak said:

:haha: and i thought you said they would not listen

ukok102nak · Jul 30, 2016

ukok102nak said:

:rofl: thats what i've said before remember magdalene
and now the situation is getting more weird
because if someone would start to show up with a
jesus like power would they believed or not
or perhaps we should have a second thought about
whats really goin on now

ukok102nak · Jul 30, 2016

ukok102nak said:

:rofl: thats what i've said before remember magdalene
and now the situation is getting more weird
because if someone would start to show up with a
jesus like power would they believed or not
or perhaps we should have a second thought about
whats really goin on now

ukok102nak · Jul 30, 2016

:haha: why dont we ask the scriptures about it
and by the way
your a real joker

resurrection33 · Jul 30, 2016

Gladstone said:

I'm trying to figure out what you are talking about. I know the number of the beast in Revelation 13 is 666. What does that have to do with the name of Jesus Christ?

Gladstone · Jul 30, 2016

I prayed to our Father for wisdom and understanding, then read Revelations. Then my mind said, "Oh no." Then I counted the number of times the name "Jesus Christ" appeared in the four gospels. In later searching I found on blueletterbible that G2962 is translated as "Lord" 667 times. Then I read that several verses were added to the end of Mark, and my count of "Jesus Christ" was now also 667. I prayed to our Father asking why it was so close, then I found the differences in the numbers of children of Adonikam. These things were given to me from our Father because I asked. I'm not a wise scholar, and my intention is not to lead people astray. I am concerned for the souls of everyone around me, and I fear how this affects our salvation. Ignore the numbers for a moment, and go back to count them later, consider how atonement and salvation might be cut off when the beast is revealed to have the same name as our Messiah. I am afraid. Jesus came in the flesh and died for our sins. The beast will impersonate him and take his name. How do we gain victory in this coming scenario?

1LonelyKnight · Jul 30, 2016

A couple simple observations:

The papacy claims to be Christ on earth
The beast is marked on the head and the right hand
The head of Rome is the pope
The hand of the papacy are his churches including the harlot daughters
The hand does the work - Catholic and Jesuit politicians and under bosses
... John Kerry and his 322 cult of HARvArd
... Joe Biden and his Syracuse University skull and bones
... John Roberts and his supreme court cult of the 14th amendment - anything goes
... Andrew Cuomo and his I am Catholic BUT we make or own G-D laws on Sandy (haired) Hookers and homosexuality and Baal and the bull of 'wall' street and etc
... And etc and etc
... Billy Graham marrying of his daughter to a basket-Baal dentist
... Charles Stanely and Jimmy Carter claiming the NIV
... Chuck Swindoll claiming illegitimacy
... The church of Christ (CoC) claiming both illegitimacy and homosexuality
... The SBC sorry about slavery
... The SBC and CoC habitat for humanity cult

The beast is the government (right hand)
The woman who rides that beast is the church riding the rocking horse/Mary-go-round that it created
...
Church-state government
.... 501c - the so- called JOHNSON AMENDMENT

666 is the number - Vicarius Filii Dei is the code

Glad that ADONAI-kim was mentioned as it is a root. Rooted in organized crime and the [upstate new York] mafia

666 also the "talents" of gold offered to 'solo man' in a year - temple freemasonry and the lesser keys of solomon

and etc etc etc

Gladstone · Jul 30, 2016

The more frightening part is when we consider if the image of the beast has already been set up. On another thread someone posted a link to a video where a pastor was speaking against the sacred names movement. That pastor said that it doesn't matter which language you pronounce his name in because they all are the same Jesus, but then he said that the Catholic Jesus was different than the Mormon Jesus who was different than the Jehovah's Witness Jesus. Are there already false images of Jesus set up with seven heads and ten crowns? If so, then which Jesus do we ask to pray for our forgiveness? When all things start to become revealed it becomes very frightening. It plainly states that the whole world will be deceived, and He is revealing just how.

trofimus · Jul 30, 2016

Gladstone said:

I prayed to our Father for wisdom and understanding, then read Revelations. Then my mind said, "Oh no." Then I counted the number of times the name "Jesus Christ" appeared in the four gospels. In later searching I found on blueletterbible that G2962 is translated as "Lord" 667 times. Then I read that several verses were added to the end of Mark, and my count of "Jesus Christ" was now also 667. I prayed to our Father asking why it was so close, then I found the differences in the numbers of children of Adonikam. These things were given to me from our Father because I asked. I'm not a wise scholar, and my intention is not to lead people astray. I am concerned for the souls of everyone around me, and I fear how this affects our salvation. Ignore the numbers for a moment, and go back to count them later, consider how atonement and salvation might be cut off when the beast is revealed to have the same name as our Messiah. I am afraid. Jesus came in the flesh and died for our sins. The beast will impersonate him and take his name. How do we gain victory in this coming scenario?

1. This is not how you should work with Bible

2. You should not be afraid, its a sign you are getting it wrong.

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