Earth is Flat and Stationary

Bladerunner · Jul 4, 2017

what does Hebrew 7:26 have to do with 2 Cor 12-2-5?????????????? STill do not get it.......

pckts · Jul 4, 2017

Enoch is not Gospel to me. idc and I'm done with you for real on this topic. I don't believe in 7 earths I gave you a picture satisfying what you demanded, I didn't want to waste my time drawing one for you.

dcontroversal · Jul 4, 2017

pckts said:

Demanded HAHAH OK.....guess you cannot prove your stance........HAHAH shakes head....so you post a chart you don't agree with....wow....OK..........no biggie

Bladerunner · Jul 4, 2017

shrume said:

Pray tell me HOW DO YOU KNOW IT IS NOT FLAT?

If you Believe God worked with people then how except that HE gave them this picture in their minds, did they come up with a picture you presented..This was a picture by Rabbis probably around the 1600 to 1800's not back in BC times? How do you suppose that happened..... They saw a space craft!

pckts · Jul 4, 2017

dcontroversal said:

I can't prove my stance with your specific criteria (directly stated Bible Verses of the specifics of flat earth functionality). I can prove my stance to you if you looked at evidence outside of your specific criteria, but you will not do this. Lost cause.

And that chart doesn't have the 4 corners of the earth, so I don't agree with it for that reason as well. I agree with how it displays the circle of the earth and God's throne above it though, so I can agree with portions of it.

pckts · Jul 4, 2017

dcontroversal said:

The Bible is already written and the cosmology verses are listed. You want us to give you verses that aren't in The Bible (ice ring, shifting path of the sun throughout the year), while you believe in the globe which also isn't in The Bible.

What is your motivation or intentions for posting these things? You know you aren't going to get these verses, so why do you waste all of our time and yours? Do you think you are going to convince me it's a globe? I have evidence in and out of The Bible it is "flat" and the globe is a lie. Your little narrow minded criteria will have no impact on me. And you look at cartoons and studio productions and believe they are real, so I really don't trust your judgement.

dcontroversal · Jul 4, 2017

pckts said:

See....you assume much...if ne can logically answer with facts that jive with scripture I have no problem embracing it...I posted the three uses of the world circle above.....God sits above the CIRCLE of the Earth...NOT above the FLAT earth that is round....and yet...you come back with a chart that has error in it (7 earths).....why should I buy a man made chart that has error?? If it is as cut and dry as you make out there should be evidence.....the whole argument for the firmament can be shot down by the flood and the canopy of water flooding the earth when the windows of heaven were opened....it is obvious there are three heavens and it is equally obvious that Genesis does not say the BIRDS fly in the same HEAVEN where the sun and moon revolve....I have studied GENESIS with an open mind and have NOT seen that picture......so.....the burden of proof is on you bro....and if it is real and true that the earth is flat then SURELY someone would have a pic or a video of the edge SHOWING this Mountainous WALL of ice and then empty space on the other side......with modern flights etc....

just saying......and at the end of the day....what does it matter.....my faith into Christ is not affected by the shape of the planet and or if it is square, round, flat, oblique, hexagonal, octagonal, triangle, red, green, yellow or flat black.....

WHAT proof has been offered...everyone that asks you or the others in the thread gets met with ridicule, mouthy comments, sarcasm, accusations of being blind, closed eyes or minds and NOT ONE VERSE that states it verbatim....

so..do tell.....prove to me without mouth and attitude that the earth is flat!

dcontroversal · Jul 4, 2017

pckts said:

The Bible is already written and the cosmology verses are listed. You want us to give you verses that aren't in The Bible (ice ring, shifting path of the sun throughout the year), while you believe in the globe which also isn't in The Bible.

What is your motivation or intentions for posting these things? You know you aren't going to get these verses, so why do you waste all of our time and yours? Do you think you are going to convince me it's a globe? I have evidence in and out of The Bible it is "flat" and the globe is a lie. Your little narrow minded criteria will have no impact on me. And you look at cartoons and studio productions and believe they are real, so I really don't trust your judgement.

CASE in point and why no one takes you serious.....so wise for sure.........more like a joke!

Zen · Jul 4, 2017

Why do stars quickly cycle through the color spectrum? Stars according to science don't do that, they should be fixed for billions of years.

Maybe you've just never seen it happen, I hope that you will.

pckts · Jul 4, 2017

dcontroversal said:

First of all stop saying mouthy, your patronizing isn't welcome and you are guilty of the same behavior with your LOLS and *Shakes head*, I just have a spine and those other male parts and I'm not defeated and passive aggressive like you.

It matters because you would become aware of the occultists you currently put faith in, and begin to literally interpret those verses you currently do whatever you do with. And you would have a better understanding of what deception is and how you can't trust cartoons, studio productions, and false equations that prove false models as evidence.

dcontroversal said:

The other flat earthers take me seriously, so your use of "no one" is incorrect.

pckts · Jul 4, 2017

Zen said:

They stand on the authority of man and will not be swayed until that authority is compromised. We can try all we want to show them the authority is satanic and using poorly produced videos, images, and half-truth proofs to deceive them, but until they become open to this possibility it's a fruitless venture.

Why are they not open? They can't possibly believe a young mouthy punk knows something of this size and magnitude that has eluded them their entire life.

shrume · Jul 4, 2017

Bladerunner said:

You cannot be serious. Right?

And if you are, there's nothing I could say to convince you.

So carry on...

Bladerunner · Jul 4, 2017

Huckleberry said:

What about you, Huckleberry, are you so closed minded that you actually take the NASA science for a fact.... Rem science is something that HAS TO BE,,provable, testable and repeatable.

Huckleberry, calling someone XXXXXXX while not exercising one's mind to contemplate or even attempt to find the answers to disputed questions makes you a what ?????????????????????.

Stupid (having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.
"I was stupid enough to think she was perfect"
synonyms: unintelligent, ignorant, dense, foolish, dull-witted, slow, simpleminded, vacuous, vapid, idiotic, imbecilic, imbecile, obtuse, doltish

(google def)

Simply apply this calculator (online) to any questions you might have. I doubt if there is any for you Huckleberry. However, for others whose minds might be a little active:The earth you say is a Ball where NASA says it is a(convex sphere of radius 6371 kilometres). This means that if you had a target 4 miles away that was 10' tall you could not see it because of the curvature of the earth, yet short of what one considers the Horizon at 12-15 miles away...

Therefore in a plane one has to be constantly flying in the downward position so they do not fly off into the so-called space. Now, I know better than to put something like that into this thread.........I have flown on the biggest plane there was back then (747) and at takeoff, sitting in the back row, I could have swore that it was going up hill, in fact almost straight up.lol

Yet, If a plane was flying level at 1,000' above the ground and had flew a total of 100 miles from beginning to the end, the plane's Altimeter would read 2,503.7351' above the ground........... WAIT just a minute here.......That is not possible......... Yes it is .......Only if God was true to his word and I do believe he was.

Now if that very same plane flying level after reaching 1000', traveled another 100 miles for a total of 200 miles at the very same starting altitude of 1000' above the ground, the Altimeter would then read 17,337.9170' above the ground. and so on and so on........

Some say that; "If an idea is not testable, repeatable, observable, and falsifiable, it is not considered scientific."

And what did God say about his Firmament.... "Psalms 19:1..." The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."

See for yourselves God's Glory....https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=200&h0=1000&unit=imperial

Good Day!

dcontroversal · Jul 4, 2017

pckts said:

Yeah...most who boast (1st bolded) have nothing pal....you won't last long here......and the second bolded.....I put my trust in no one pal and you still assume much....

Zen · Jul 4, 2017

pckts said:

I think we should be careful not to seem lofty or self-important. I honestly don't know why they are struggling with this. Maybe they haven't been exposed to the same amount of information or maybe they are trusting the world. It could be this latter point that they aren't aware that God's enemy influences the institutions of the world and is working against God.

God helps us discern lies, so when I discern them I attribute it to God's grace.

May God bless you for trying to help people.

One last point I'd make is that while many Christians think we are here to deceive them or we are foolish, I'd say on the contrary, wouldn't it glorify God more if we stand by the truth of His Word and point out the contradictions of the world?

When a scientist says a star stays yellow for a billion years before changing colour, yet I step outside at night and watch all the stars of the same brightness and colour flickering through red, pink, blue, green, like Christmas lights. Who do I trust? The Holy Spirit and my eyes, or an atheist scientist?

dcontroversal · Jul 4, 2017

pckts said:

They stand on the authority of man and will not be swayed until that authority is compromised. We can try all we want to show them the authority is satanic and using poorly produced videos, images, and half-truth proofs to deceive them, but until they become open to this possibility it's a fruitless venture.

Why are they not open? They can't possibly believe a young mouthy punk knows nothing of this size and magnitude that has eluded them their entire life.

You got that right for sure.....and I fixed the last word for you pal HAHAH

GaryA · Jul 4, 2017

Consider:

Looking down from above - i.e. - from God's throne.

The square represents the outer physical 'edge' of the Flat Earth.

The outer circle represents where the 'dome' over the Earth "touches down" on the Earth.

The inner circle represents the ice ring. Inside of it is the habitable part of the Earth.

The oceans and continents are inside the ice ring.

The "circle of the Earth" in scripture could be talking about either circle.

Imagine that there are [ at least ] hundreds of miles between the circles.

I am not saying this graphic is 100% accurate -- it is for illustration only - to help you better understand the Flat Earth model.

GaryA · Jul 4, 2017

GaryA said:

One of the specific points I am trying to make here is that -- where the 'dome' over the Earth "touches down" on the Earth is "well past" the ice ring - "well past" any point on the Earth that man has ever been.

No one has ever been to - or even seen - an 'edge' of the Earth. God put it so far out that we cannot reach it. Moreover, we would no doubt have to go outside of the dome to reach it.

graceNpeace · Jul 4, 2017

GaryA said:

One of the specific points I am trying to make here is that -- where the 'dome' over the Earth "touches down" on the Earth is "well past" the ice ring - "well past" any point on the Earth that man has ever been.

No one has ever been to - or even seen - an 'edge' of the Earth. God put it so far out that we cannot reach it. Moreover, we would no doubt have to go outside of the dome to reach it.

This is PURE garbage!

posthuman · Jul 4, 2017

Zen said:

what in the world are you talking about?

twinkling?

that's "atmospheric diffraction"

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