Earth is Flat and Stationary

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Magenta

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How can stars stand? Do they have legs? Or does God mean it just was held against the forces of physics for a few hours/days?
Your argument surely does not stand :rolleyes:
 

Bladerunner

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Explain the 3 uses of the word CIRCLE...........that jives with FLAT................

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth
, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

King James Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

the circle-->

chug: vault, horizon
Original Word: חוּג
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: chug
Phonetic Spelling: (khoog)
Short Definition: circle

Job 22:14HEB: וְלֹ֣א יִרְאֶ֑ה וְח֥וּג שָׁ֝מַ֗יִם יִתְהַלָּֽךְ׃
NAS: And He walks on the vault of heaven.'
KJV: not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven.
INT: cannot see the vault of heaven walks


KJV Job 22:14 Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven.
Hebrew Names Version:"Thick clouds are a covering to him, so that he doesn't see. He walks on the vault of the sky.'"


Proverbs 8:27
HEB: אָ֑נִי בְּח֥וּקוֹ ח֝֗וּג עַל־ פְּנֵ֥י
NAS: When He inscribed a circle on the face
KJV: I [was] there: when he set a compass upon the face
INT: he inscribed A circle on the face

KJV:proverbs 8:27..When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Hebrew Names Version:"When he established the heavens, I was there; When he set a circle on the surface of the deep,"


Isaiah 40:22
HEB: הַיֹּשֵׁב֙ עַל־ ח֣וּג הָאָ֔רֶץ וְיֹשְׁבֶ֖יהָ
NAS: above the circle of the earth,
KJV: [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth,
INT: sits above the circle of the earth inhabitants3 Occurrences
KJV: Isaiah 40:22 .."It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:"

Hebrews Names Version:"It is he who sits above the circle of the eretz, and the inhabitants of it are as grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens as a curtain, and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in;"
 

Magenta

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Quote the argument.
I did. Your ridiculous pretense that stars cannot stand, using a word and acting as if it has only one possible meaning. After reading sixty seconds worth of your posts, you come across as some one who who does not believe in God. Consider the fact that a star would not have to zip across the universe to be in place for a particular event in time. God knew before time began what was required and could have set that star in motion a million years before it was needed to mark a spot. Your imagination seems very limited according to your assertions and the questions you ask. Just sayin...
 
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To me a circle from long ago in geometry class was a 2 dimensional line that had a radius and a Diameter.
This is not geometry and we are talking Hebrew....sorry....I have yet to see conclusive proof of what you say....again....if it is true...SOMEONE would have pics of the edge, ice wall the end and then space etc.........I want to again say that IF verifiable proof can be given in some form or fashion then I will believe.....

Jude quotes Enoch, Peter also references the same occurrence, and Enoch is allude to numerous times in scripture and he references the axis tilt of the earth....

NOT saying I necessarily buy it....just saying...
 

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I did. Your ridiculous pretense that stars cannot stand, using a word and acting as if it has only one possible meaning. After reading sixty seconds worth of your posts, you come across as some one who who does not believe in God. Consider the fact that a star would not have to zip across the universe to be in place for a particular event in time. God knew before time began what was required and could have set that star in motion a million years before it was needed to mark a spot. Your imagination seems very limited according to your assertions and the questions you ask. Just sayin...
k.........
 

Magenta

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And did you catch the double entendre? Probably not. Let me spell it our for you. It would go like this: how do arguments stand? Do they have legs???????
 

Zen

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Job 38:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Anyone want to work out how loud a ball of gas has to sing to be heard through a vacuum over a trillion miles?

Psalm 148:3
Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light

Praise by consuming fuel more efficiently.
 

Magenta

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Job 38:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Anyone want to work out how loud a ball of gas has to sing to be heard through a vacuum over a trillion miles?
It is likely that any vibrational frequency has an accompanying sound. I bet you think you should be able to hear them all, huh? Guess again. How about light rays? Do you see all of them? Hey, wow, there's another no. Neither negative amounts to meaning they don't exist.
 

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Walk trough the valley
There is possibility that the mind of the flesh is flat, actually worse not even using space like the example of a CD weighing the same before and after information is stored in it, and quantum physics wonders if we are a hologram, this whole universe, being hallow, it would make sense as we need to be filled with God; further more that we are not for real apart from Him and are on the verge of vanishing like the old covenant did unless we find our rest in God. Our perception of the earth can certainly be flat in our mind, its been before, though the bible makes mention of the circle of the earth.
 

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And did you catch the double entendre? Probably not. Let me spell it our for you. It would go like this: how do arguments stand? Do they have legs???????
Good one, Your on fire Magenta!

Now how is it that your typing at a computer if you're on fire?
 

Bladerunner

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This is not geometry and we are talking Hebrew....sorry....I have yet to see conclusive proof of what you say....again....if it is true...SOMEONE would have pics of the edge, ice wall the end and then space etc.........I want to again say that IF verifiable proof can be given in some form or fashion then I will believe.....

Jude quotes Enoch, Peter also references the same occurrence, and Enoch is allude to numerous times in scripture and he references the axis tilt of the earth....

NOT saying I necessarily buy it....just saying...


Hi DC.......Yes, Enoch wellll but God tells us in several places:

1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”
Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”
Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”
Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”
Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”

Now I believe God's Words over man's. Just think about it... If the earth was flat..... everyone on earth would know that a creator did it,,,,, the seeds of the stars and extraterrestrials would be known as false. Just think what it would do for all the governments of the world not to speak of all the religions. what about Evolution.....Immediately thrown out.

Yes, I am sorry we have been told a big lie all of our lives and only a very few will find out when they get down and read the Word of God earnestly.

BUT there are Still those that believe in those lies and TRY to believe in God at the same time???????????????????????????????
 
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was wondering when you was going to bring up the Rabbit hole again.
They do not understand/cannot discern the difference between disinformation and controlled opposition, so they naturally gravitate towards the one that reaffirms their beliefs.

The lies themselves are simple and easy to see through, but the forces that keep them in place are very strong and frustrating.
 

Bladerunner

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Here's a good podcast on the flat earth conspiracy theory by Dr. Jason Lisle. I really don't see how anyone could hold this belief.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/youth-apologetics-training/id508635126?mt=2&i=1000374303478

I think this thread belongs in the conspiracy theory section along with the Illuminati/Jesuit stuff.

There are several others places ......... There are many experiments you can do and come out with different answers than that of NASA, etc... Here is one address that can lead you to others:

http://www.testingtheglobe.com/

Having said that,,,,,You have to make up your mind if you are going to believe ALL of God's Word or those that seem logical to you...The other day, I had someone tell me, the Bible contradicted itself all over the place....mainly because it had been copied to much.

I ask him that if believed that God created the Earth and everything... He said YES. I then ask him how he could then believe in Mankind's scientific findings over God's WORD? No, I don't know if he changed over to believe in ALL of God's Word..... It is after all up to him to check it out as the Bereans did in Acts 17:11.....

Revelation 19:11-13..."11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.


Think about it! You don't have to be as bold as I am about it... I do not tell everyone simply it would run them away. Later on when they ask and it always comes down to one or two questions in this subject asked, wellllllllll

Hope you have a blessed evening....
Blade
 

Bladerunner

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If light takes 4.5 years to arrive from the nearest star to earth, then God made a star move in the sky at least 4.5 years before the wise men ever saw it, right?

But it was standing still + 30km/s x the distance to the star, so that it was stationary relative to the earth.
BUT did you not read it.......God placed the stars, sun and moon in the firmament. The 1st sky where the birds fly.