The image of the beast might not be a statue.

[unobtrusive]

The “image of the Beast” is (more than likely) not a statue, obelisk or even an erected monument.


Looking at all the politics and divisive propagation in the U.S., plus the foreign policies propagated since the Korean war, it seems to be clear to me that the “powers that be” are purposefully working toward a “one world government” beginning with “socialism” leading to a dictatorship run by the “Image of the beast.”

“And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image (Strong’s 1504) of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.” (Romans 8:28-29 KJV)

We worship Christ Jesus but according to the OT law, no molded images are to be worshiped. So what is the “image” of Christ that we are to conformed to?

“And he had power to give life unto the image (Strong’s 1504) of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. ” (Revelation 13:15-18 KJV)

Here is the Greek description of the word “image.”
εἰκών eikṓn, i-kone'; a likeness, i.e. (literally) statue, profile, or (figuratively) representation, resemblance:—image.

Our English word “icon” is derived from the Greek εἰκών eikṓn.

1. A painting of Jesus Christ or another holy figure, typically in a traditional style on wood, venerated and used as an aid to devotion in the Byzantine and other Eastern Churches.
2. A person or thing regarded as a representative symbol of something.
3. The image of the Son of God, into which true Christians are transformed, is likeness not only to the heavenly body, but also to the most holy and blessed state of mind, which Christ possesses, One in whom the likeness of any one is seen.

I think this “image” mentioned in the Bible is a premeditatedpersuasion endorsed to mankind, whether good or evil. Kinda like the tree of the “knowledge of good and evil.” What are your thoughts concerning world evens and what we see in society these days?

 

[Nehemiah6]

The “image of the Beast” is (more than likely) not a statue, obelisk or even an erected monument.

There is no reason to complicate things. The Bible clearly says that this is an image (Revelation 13:14-17), which would mean an idolatrous statue. The world and false Christianity has practiced idolatry ever since the tower of Babel.

And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[unobtrusive]

There is no reason to complicate things. The Bible clearly says that this is an image (Revelation 13:14-17), which would mean an idolatrous statue.

14
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

[SUP]"[/SUP]And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority." (Revelation 13:2 KJV)

Just a question Nehemiah. Do you actually believe that a statue can speak and cause people to be killed? (Verse 15 as you quoted)

 

[PrynceNY]

During that time miracles and wonders will cause people to follow the beast and be deceived. Revelation 13:13 - it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people.

 

[Desertsrose]

The “image of the Beast” is (more than likely) not a statue, obelisk or even an erected monument.Looking at all the politics and divisive propagation in the U.S., plus the foreign policies propagated since the Korean war, it seems to be clear to me that the “powers that be” are purposefully working toward a “one world government” beginning with “socialism” leading to a dictatorship run by the “Image of the beast.” “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image (Strong’s 1504) of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.” (Romans 8:28-29 KJV)We worship Christ Jesus but according to the OT law, no molded images are to be worshiped. So what is the “image” of Christ that we are to conformed to? “And he had power to give life unto the image (Strong’s 1504) of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. ” (Revelation 13:15-18 KJV)Here is the Greek description of the word “image.” εἰκών eikṓn, i-kone'; a likeness, i.e. (literally) statue, profile, or (figuratively) representation, resemblance:—image. Our English word “icon” is derived from the Greek εἰκών eikṓn.1. A painting of Jesus Christ or another holy figure, typically in a traditional style on wood, venerated and used as an aid to devotion in the Byzantine and other Eastern Churches.2. A person or thing regarded as a representative symbol of something.3. The image of the Son of God, into which true Christians are transformed, is likeness not only to the heavenly body, but also to the most holy and blessed state of mind, which Christ possesses, One in whom the likeness of any one is seen.I think this “image” mentioned in the Bible is a premeditatedpersuasion endorsed to mankind, whether good or evil. Kinda like the tree of the “knowledge of good and evil.” What are your thoughts concerning world evens and what we see in society these days?

Hi unobtrusive,

I've always thought the beast is the antichrist.

 

[unobtrusive]

Hi unobtrusive,

I've always thought the beast is the antichrist.

I would agree. Antichrist is a persuasion (persuading all people if possible) to reject the Real Truth.

 

[Desertsrose]

I would agree. Antichrist is a persuasion (persuading all people if possible) to reject the Real Truth.

Hi unobtrusive,


Your question has made me want to read about the beast again to find out why that is what I believe. I'd really love to do a study on Revelation some day.


Yes, that's His purpose. I've never thought of the beast as a statute. Those who believe that, is it suppose to be like a robot or something? Because the scriptures say he has a mouth and speaks, he performs miracles and he has a wound from the sword.


I dunno, but I'm curious now. Time to go and do some reading.

 

[dcontroversal]

Does not the 1st beast (Devil in a man) give power unto the IMAGE that it may speak and cause ALL who will not receive the mark to be put to death?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Just a question Nehemiah. Do you actually believe that a statue can speak and cause people to be killed? (Verse 15 as you quoted)

Given the fact that Satan is directly involved, as well as the fact that robotics and artificial intelligence are well advanced today, there is absolutely no reason to doubt that a statue could very well do these things.

 

[unobtrusive]

Hi unobtrusive,


Your question has made me want to read about the beast again to find out why that is what I believe. I'd really love to do a study on Revelation some day.


Yes, that's His purpose. I've never thought of the beast as a statute. Those who believe that, is it suppose to be like a robot or something? Because the scriptures say he has a mouth and speaks, he performs miracles and he has a wound from the sword.


I dunno, but I'm curious now. Time to go and do some reading.

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads (plural) the name of blasphemy. (Revelation 13:1 KJV)

Heads with crowns would represent a confederacy of nations with political worldwide power, in my opinion. Horns always represent power, likened unto the horns of the altar of incense and the altar of burning. Blasphemy is βλασφημία; vilification (especially against God):—blasphemy, evil speaking, railing. We see that today, even in this country.

 

[Sully]

It's obvious to me we are in chapter 3 ((the very end of the chapter.)) IMO.

 

[unobtrusive]

Does not the 1st beast (Devil in a man) give power unto the IMAGE that it may speak and cause ALL who will not receive the mark to be put to death?

I think that the dragon gives power to the beast.

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? (Revelation 13:4 KJV)

And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. (Revelation 12:3 KJV)

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads (plural) the name of blasphemy. (Revelation 13:1 KJV)

As we can see, both the dragon and the beast have the same power.

 

[dcontroversal]

I think that the dragon gives power to the beast.

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? (Revelation 13:4 KJV)

And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. (Revelation 12:3 KJV)

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads (plural) the name of blasphemy. (Revelation 13:1 KJV)

As we can see, both the dragon and the beast have the same power.

Exactly....what I have learned is the following....a continuing attempt by Satan to be worshipped in a man as god....continually hindered because it was not yet time......note the following....

Horus in Egypt was Bel in Assyria was Marduke in Babylon was Merodach in Persia was Jupiter is Greece was Zeus in Rome is Allah at the end of the age.....ALL were SATAN attempting to be worshipped as god

We know Zeus was real based upon the statement of Jesus unto the church at Pergamos.....He said, "I know you dwell where Satan's seat is located...."

What was located in Pergamos<---The throne of Zeus........

good stuff for sure and history is replete with proof of the adversary for sure and his trickery....

 

[iamsoandso]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan the bible I think is correct source to unravel the meaning but a multi headed beast (from the sea) and another divided beast (from the earth) and a third beast of the air is depicted in most of the groups of people you mentioned (something interesting to note).

 

[Alertandawake]

I am going to add my input on this, and studying over and over the image of the beast, now there are a number of areas that is of interest, firstly when looking at the greek word for image, it is eikon (G1504 in strongs), and going by strongs it can certainly mean a statue, or some other likeness.

After reading Rev 19.20, there is one question I have been wondering, and that is what happen to the "image"?

After reading all the passages concerning the image of the beast, is it possible that this image could be some kind of advance robotic construct of some kind? Now look at the advancements of robot technology today? There are robotic clones of people that look so much like a person.

If looking at the theory side of things, yes a robot has the appearance of being alive, but at the same time, a robot does not have the same gift of life as we humans do.

We know throughout history, there has always been idol worship in one form or another, the golden calf for example. My personal opinion, the computer age, or perhaps more specific, the age of artificial intelligence/transhumanism/singularity seems to be a modern age golden calf to some people.

Things is we live in a very advanced society today, with alot of technology.

 

[unobtrusive]

I am going to add my input on this, and studying over and over the image of the beast, now there are a number of areas that is of interest, firstly when looking at the greek word for image, it is eikon (G1504 in strongs), and going by strongs it can certainly mean a statue, or some other likeness.

After reading Rev 19.20, there is one question I have been wondering, and that is what happen to the "image"?

After reading all the passages concerning the image of the beast, is it possible that this image could be some kind of advance robotic construct of some kind? Now look at the advancements of robot technology today? There are robotic clones of people that look so much like a person.

If looking at the theory side of things, yes a robot has the appearance of being alive, but at the same time, a robot does not have the same gift of life as we humans do.

We know throughout history, there has always been idol worship in one form or another, the golden calf for example. My personal opinion, the computer age, or perhaps more specific, the age of artificial intelligence/transhumanism/singularity seems to be a modern age golden calf to some people.

Things is we live in a very advanced society today, with alot of technology.

I have even entertained the thought that our technology was possibly no different than it was before the flood during the time of Noah. "Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch." (Genesis 6:14)

I have read that "Gopher" represents the blueprint of the ark because the ark was made from the same wood that the ark of the covenant was made from, "shittim wood."

גֹּפֶר gôpher, go'-fer; from an unused root, probably meaning to house in; a kind of tree or wood (as used for building), apparently the cypress:—gopher. meaning and exact type unknown.
עֵץ ʻêts, ates; from עָצָה ʻâtsâh, aw-tsaw'; a primitive root; properly, to fasten (or make firm) a tree (from its firmness); hence, wood (plural sticks):— carpenter, gallows, helve, pine, plank, staff, stalk, stick, stock, timber, tree, wood.

People now say that the technology it took to build the ark was/is phenomenal.

"But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." (Matthew 24:37)

 

[mj007]

C 3 x 6 = 18
O 15 x 6 = 90
M 13 x 6 = 78
P 16 x 6 = 96
U 21 x 6 = 126
T 20 x 6 = 120
E 5 x 6 = 30
R 18 x 6 = 108
===============
Total 666

 

[Willie-T]

I would agree. Antichrist is a persuasion (persuading all people if possible) to reject the Real Truth.

Probably the most concise and accurate description of The Beast that I have ever heard. To me, "Beast" is the opposing force that is against God....... whether it an individual, a state, government. or even just "thought."

 

[PennEd]

C 3 x 6 = 18
O 15 x 6 = 90
M 13 x 6 = 78
P 16 x 6 = 96
U 21 x 6 = 126
T 20 x 6 = 120
E 5 x 6 = 30
R 18 x 6 = 108
===============
Total 666

Interesting that the English has it add up to 666. I have seen sites that have the Hebrew add it up to 666 as well.

I'm not totally convinced that the "beast" will be a demonically possessed android, especially AFTER it suffers it's mortal wound, but it certainly looks to me that man's manipulation with "knowledge" via computers, is going to be instrumental in the evil one's plan.

The well known APPLE icon, that really started the explosion of personal computing, has a rainbow colored apple WITH a bite taken out of it.

I don't know how this clear finger poking into God's Eye, can be missed.

 

[garee]

There is no reason to complicate things. The Bible clearly says that this is an image (Revelation 13:14-17), which would mean an idolatrous statue. The world and false Christianity has practiced idolatry ever since the tower of Babel.

And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I would suggest it’s all about representative glory.(Not seen)

I would offer when we try to give God who is not a man like us an image as that seen to represent Him not seen, we are not walking by faith.

Man and woman were created as a representative glory of our invisible God. Two representing one. Sort of like the father and the Son of God not seen .But represented by the Son of man seen and the father. .

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Sadly in most denominations they have all but destroyed the ceremonial law that can help us understand and give glory to God with the head or hair covering ceremonial law used in ceremonies when likeminded people gather together to give glory to God, as a sign to the world. .

It’s one that I think should be revisited it and not treated as a fashion statement for a certain time period.

1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God..

Christ who has no form is represented by man created in his own image and likeness. Again as a representative glory. With the invisible glory represented by that seen, as man represents Christ our husband the head of the spiritual body . He must not cover his representative glory. Woman represents the bride of Christ the whole church in that way.. She represents her husband as a sign to the angels. She is not left without a representative glory her hair. It must be covered so that the only glory seen is a representative glory.

When the Son of man said... it is finished the outward demonstration of the glory of the invisible God returned to the previous unseen glory. The work of representing the glory of God to the whole world was finished.

I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glorywhich I had with thee before the world was. Joh 17:4