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zone · Aug 5, 2010

cleante, i've posted this elsewhere, i didn't write it, but i find it, overall, to be the most credible interpretation of Revelation. particularly given current events, and a revived Sanhedrin, Talmudic Judaism with a strange new set of LAWS designed for the entire world.

what do you think?
zone.

The Seven Heads And Ten Horns Of Revelation 13:1
Seven Mountains

By Pastor G. Reckart

The ten horn beast kingdom is mentioned in Daniel 7:7 as being the fourth beast in his vision. That fourth beast is the Roman empire without question. It is a fact the Catholic Church took on the identity of the Roman Empire and today papal Rome carries by inheritance any and all rebuke and judgment of God against Rome. Papal Rome will always be in league with the antichrist in Israel. The future antichrist to come to Jerusalem will have Papal blessings and authority.

The ten horns then are understood to be ten kings, rulers, or emperors that would rule during the time of the Messiah. We start the first of the ten with Caesar Augustus and indeed he is mentioned with the birth of Jesus. He is the first horn or power of the fourth beast that has to do with the Messianic fulfillment. If we then count the next ten emperors we end up with Titus who destroyed the temple and Jerusalem in fulfillment of the prophecy of Jesus in Matthew 24.

The seven heads are not mentioned in Daniel and are first found in Revelation 12:3 and 13:1. These seven must reign at the same time of the fourth beast and the ten horns or emperors. The beast with seven heads and ten horns is not an endtime event and it is NOT THE ROMAN EMPIRE REVIVED! The second beast that comes up AFTER the first beast ends is the endtime event. The second beast is not the European Common Market because there are more than ten nations in that federation. The Seven heads are not the seven hills of Rome. The seven heads are Jerusalem which we will now prove.

The focus of the metal-man image and the revealing of the four beasts is to reveal the events of the nations that lead up to the coming of the Messiah and the destruction of the image by the stone hewn out of the mountain that filled the whole earth. That stone is the Church as the Kingdom of God. This is not a millennial fulfillment but a fulfillment of what happened at Calvary. The stone taken out of the mountain is the Church Kingdom born out of Calvary's sacrifice.

We can see then that the seven heads previously mentioned must have connection with Israel as that is the focus of the Messianic fulfillment. These seven agree exactly with the Herods. During the time of the reign of the ten horns in Rome there reigned in Israel seven Herods under that power. These were the antichrist forces in world power at the time of Jesus and the Apostles up to 70AD.

A separate seven heads is revealed in Revelation 17:9 and are identified as the seven mountains where the whore sitteth. This is further identified as the seven hills of Jerusalem and called the *great city* where also our Lord was crucified.

The witchcraft system of Kabbalah within paganized Judaism (Talmudism), is called Mystery Babylon the Great. Because it came out of Babylon by the Pharisees and other occult mystics.

One of these seven heads or hills had a wound by a sword, this head or hill is Mount Moriah (the temple mount), and the sword was the war of Titus that destroyed it in fulfillment of the prophecy of Jesus in Matthew 24.

Jerusalem is the location of the hill where the great whore sitteth, Rome or Catholicism is not the great whore. .... it is Jerusalem and the temple mount that are destroyed by the battle of Armageddon.

The deadly wound of the head or hill that will be healed is Mount Moriah will be resurrected back from the dead. This points to a revived Judaism religion upon the temple mount.

This angers God after all, he had the place destroyed in 70AD as an eternal sign that temple and religion was abolished and replaced forever by the New Testament Church.

The revival of the temple mount and the Talmudic religion will be the endtime work of the antichrist and his false prophet.

Alleged *contact* with God will be claimed as the antichrist urges his false prophet to call fire down upon animal sacrifices in the new temple. The world will be deceived that these antichrist have made re-contact with God. Those who preach that this alleged re-contact with God is really the power of the devil, and the man claiming to be the Messiah is the antichrist, will be hated of all nations for the name sake of Jesus as the ONLY Messiah. Then, fathers and mothers will betray their children unto death and children will betray their fathers and mothers to death. Ministers will betray Ministers, Churches will betray Churches, religious organizations will betray independents, and the world will be covered in the blood of those slain for the testimony of the name and salvation of Jesus. There will be great persecution from friends and relatives, but the elect of God, his true Israel, will be delivered.

In Revelation 13 the first beast system of the ten and the seven are separated by an unknown amount of time from the the second beast that comes upon the earth in the endtime.

The second beast is the antichrist system of the endtime. It will last 42 months or three and one half years. Tribulation will only be three and one half years long. But a great destruction from the Lord Jesus will rain upon the earth because of this hatred and bigotry against the followers of the Lamb and the Lamb shall overcome them (Rev 17:14).

The revived Judaism will birth out of the midst her antichrist in Jerusalem. The head or hill that had the wound by the sword and was dead will be revived. Rome will support this antichrist and assist in deceiving millions to worship this revived religious system. Rome will be destroyed along with other nations at the appearance of the Lord, in flaming fire, taking vengeance on them that know not God and who obeyed not the Truth.

The seven hills identify Jerusalem not Rome: Jerusalem was a large city spreading outside the walls and covering the seven hills there during the time of Jesus and the Apostles: 1.) Mount Gared; 2.) Mount Goath; 3.) Mount Acra; 4.) Mount Bezetha; 5.) Mount Moriah; 6.) Mount Ophel; 7.) Mount Zion.

For what ever reason, and by what ever hands and manipulation, Mt. Gared, Mt. Goath, Mt Acra, and Mt. Bezetha have been deleted from nearly all maps of Jerusalem. To still identify Jerusalem as the city of Revelation 17:9, other scholars replaced these with four other mountains: Mt. of Olives, Mt. Of Offence, Mount of Evil Counsel, and Mount Calvary. In either case, Jerusalem is the city of the seven mountains in Rev. 17:9. While these were not all within the walled city, all seven hills were nevertheless spoke of as being at Jerusalem and Jerusalem. The original Jerusalem was only upon the small hill of Zion. The walls were enlarged to enclose also the temple mount by Solomon. Later the walls were enlarged again to include Mount Ophel. Then the city limits was enlarged again and covered the seven hills.

Contrary to dispensational claims, the endtime focus is not on Rome as a city nor upon the Catholic Church. It is upon Israel, Jerusalem, the temple mount, the Jewish antichrist, the Jewish false prophet, and the Jews and Gentiles who will participate in this revival. Will Rome play a decisive role in the endtime? Yes! Rome will validate the antichrist and in fact be a supporter of the antichrist regime. Rome signed a peace treaty with Israel on December 30, 1993.

This sealed Rome's agreement to support Israel and she has not failed to do so. She has sent out letters and decrees that Israel and Jerusalem together with all modern Jews are not to be accused for the crucifixion of Jesus, and not to be converted to Jesus. Rome has made the decree that Jews can be saved by keeping the Law and observing animal sacrifices. These very decrees validate antichrist when he appears. Catholics and Protestants will be the agents of the Jerusalem antichrist to kill millions. Come out of them and her *my people.* Flee from *ALL* Religious organizations right this very moment. Never go back. Have Church in your home or with others in small Church groups.

The endtime focus is upon antichrist in Israel who will be Jewish. A false prophet will arise and he will certify the antichrist in the role of Elijah the Prophet. This public coronation will begin a world-wide nightmare of persecution and hatred against the name of Jesus and the endtime Church.

It will be heralded world-wide that the Jews have made RE-CONTACT with God as they call fire from heaven down* upon the temple mount on renewed animal sacrifices. The deceived world will go mad and worship the antichrist and millions will deny Jesus and go back to practice of the Law, Pharisee-Talmudic style. But, the true Saints shall not be forsaken nor forgotten. Yes, some may die for their faith. But if they are killed by Jew or Gentile, their soul will fly to the temple mount and there in spirit under the altar will cry for vengeance upon Israel, the temple mount, and upon Gentile nations and persecutors until the day of vengeance, ...the day of the Lord.

We who have confessed Jesus as the Messiah are in this to endure UNTIL the end! Not the beginning, not the middle, not prewrath, but to the END! The Lord Jesus will unleash the seven seals, the seven trumpets, and the seven vials upon the antichrist in Israel, Jerusalem, and around the world. These judgments are against the antichrist and *for* the protection of the Saints, not their destruction or God's wrath upon them. Do not fear going through the tribulation, the Lord will reward you richly.

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Revelation 13
11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

zone · Aug 5, 2010

footnote:
notice that the author wrote the article in 1990.
the Sanhedrin did not reappear until 2004.
z

WomanLovesTX · Aug 5, 2010

Israel said:

Here is something that has always fascinated me. The man who started Hobby Lobby, never opens on Sunday (all franchises have to agree with this stipulation), but the more interesting fact is he refused to ever take the bar code and scanning system in his stores. Everything there is price marked and inventoried by manual hands. I saw his autobiography in the store once, and I regret not getting it then.

WomanLovesTX · Aug 5, 2010

I just want to state my position on what I believe about the prophecies and end times. They are 100% literal. Sure, all through the ages, symbolic meanings are meaningful, but I do believe Satan is great at bait and switch. Searching the internet I am struck by the enormity of information and theories and "prophets".

I feel this discussion is enlightment and we will hopefully know when the anti-christ comes in to power. Just as Jesus was prophesied with very specific details that are literal, I believe we should be looking for literal details about the anti-christ.

At this time, I am researching literal details about Turkey. I hope to have the specifics organized soon, but so far the evidence is huge. One thing I want to mention at this point is Turkey's symbolic animal is the Grey Wolf. That in itself is very significant, but how significant to the prophecy fulfillment is not yet fully understood.

When Christ was born in Bethlehem, it was prophesied. When the wise men from the "EAST" came by King Herod, even Herod knew it was time for the Messiah, the new King to be born. So it is with our time, we too know it is time for the anti-christ to reveal himself. I am beginning to think that the 666 is not the focus we should have at this time. When anti-christ is revealed and he fits perfectly all the literal details, the number will be literal too. How? I don't know, but at least having the awareness and anticipation is the right start and Jesus said He would not lose any that the Father has given Him.

Just beware, there all Wolves in Sheeps clothing, out to decieve even the elect if possible.

Praising God and thankful for this present peace.

WomanLovesTX · Aug 5, 2010

Would the anti-christ make a speech like this? Sorry, I haven't found O'bomb us speech. Does anyone have it?

The Third Forum of the UN Alliance of Civilizations
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
May 28, 2010
Address by H.E. Mr Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Prime Minister of Turkey
Dear and esteemed presidents and prime ministers, Esteemed ministers, Distinguished participants, Dear ladies and gentlemen,

With the deepest regards, I’d like to say welcome to the beautiful city of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and welcome to the Third Forum of the Alliance of Civilizations.

Yes... Today, Rio de Janeiro is witnessing history.
Today, here we are having what is a historic summit for our countries, our people and
above all for our whole world and the future of humanity. Everyone here knows well the current problems of the world. We are going through a global financial crisis…
There are global problems like poverty and the unfair distribution of income. Nuclear arms, weapons of mass destruction and a lack of organized disarmament threaten our future. Terrorism at an international level, human trafficking, drug trafficking, global warming, environmental pollution, aridity and other threats…
My dear friends, we have known all threats…We have seen all these threats and their consequences. However, there is another threat which has gone unseen, and is growing perceptibly while threatening our future at least as much other threats are. Prejudices, presumptions, intolerance, impatience and discrimination… In short, we have been witness to a have of thinking setting off and forming a basis for polarization and even a clash of ivilizations. Yes…We are here to bring attention to such a threat growing while the world is becoming smaller. Today, we are here, in Brazil, in Rio de Janeiro, to stand up to this danger and to show to the world that to eliminate this danger is possible. My dear friends, we have never been pessimistic…We are never without hope…We believe that all problems rising from the past and here now are solvable. We believe that hostilities of the past and in our age, prejudices, intolerance are not the unchangeable destiny of humanity. We believe that we will dignify love and respect and have tolerance prevail. Believing that to change the path of
history is certainly possible and what is real is love and peace not negative winds, we are here having these summits. As a co-president of the Alliance of Civilizations, I’d like to express my gratitude to you, all participants and countries, for setting their hearts and contributing to such an important target. My wish is that this historic summit will play an important role in the meeting and merging of civilizations and today historic results will arise. The Alliance of Civilizations attempt which as Turkish and Spanish Prime Ministers we started in 2005 under the United Nations is based on a belief that different cultures and civilizations can live together.
I’d like to express my gratitude to Mr. Kofi Annan for his great contributions and United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon for his support since taking up his position. Also, I’d like to thank to Brazilian President Mr. Lula da Silva and the Brazilian people for hosting the meeting this year.
Esteemed participants, Dear and esteemed friends…The effort to portray people, societies, ultures and religions as if they were hostile towards each other because of their differences is a major blow to world peace. Those who present differences as a cause for conflict and enmity devalue the common history of humanity and universal values. People having different languages, religions, races, cultures and civilizations is a requirement and natural result of being human. Trying to file down, to suppress or to eliminate these differences, or making them a pretext for segregation, is the equivalent of trying to destroy humanity. Keeping the differences introduced by different religions, civilizations and cultures alive is a common call again by these religions and civilizations. In the Holy Koran, the creator almighty God says, “O mankind! We created you from a single pair of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other.” Islam’s holy prophet Muhammad says, “An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also red has no superiority over black nor black has any superiority over red. No nation has superiority over another.” The Bible says, “If you love only those who love you, what reward do you have? If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others?” Just as having differences is a necessary part of being uman, living together is a requirement for human beings as social creatures. The ethics of living together is one of the fundamental elements of our being human. Major religious traditions and ethics have the necessary principles to make the ethics of living together real. I want to nderline the following matters: A human being should treat others the same way that they want to be treated by them. One who wants to be loved should love others. One who wants to get respect from others should show respect to them. One who wants to hear the truth should speak the truth. One who wants justice should treat people with justice, and one who advocates equality should treat people equally.

WomanLovesTX · Aug 5, 2010

I want to draw your attention to the great scholar and man of heart Mevlana Jalaluddin
Rumi’s following words which shed light on today from the 13th century. Mevlana says:
“Be like a river in generosity and help
Be like the sun in tenderness and mercy
Be like the night in covering the faults of others
Be like the dead in anger and nervousness
Be like the earth in modesty and humility
Be like the sea in tolerance
Either seem as you are, or become as you seem.”
Another Turkish poet, Yunus Emre conveys the common meaning of the four holy
books, namely Psalms, the Old Testament, the Bible and the Koran to today from centuries ago:
“Regard the other, as you regard yourself, this is the meaning of the four holy books, if
there is any.”
My dear esteemed friends
Throughout history, it has been argued that the crusades were the biggest conflicts that
separated the East from the West, and Muslims from Christians.
The crusades, of course, were the battles during which Muslims and Christians, or the
crusaders and Turks confronted each other.
But I want to draw your attention to especially that point: The crusades were also a time
period during which all parties knew and contacted each other, forged alliances with each other,
and most importantly, they intensively exchanged their assets in the areas of science and art.
What has remained from these confrontations is the traces of cultural exchange, rather
than the traces of conflicts.
Common words in our languages, common works of science and culture, common
elements in various areas from music to cuisine, all of these are the results of such
confrontations.
We cannot serve a prosperous future on earth by reading history differently, that is,
seeing history as a string of wars and enmities, and relaying this view to new generations.
The world doesn’t consist of only the West, the East, the South or the North.
The history of mankind is not only the story of one segment of people or any single
community.
The history of civilizations is not the history of wars, conflicts or assimilations, but the
history of differences, richness and interaction.
Those who suppose that the world is made for their own benefit cannot truly read the
soul of our age. Some still look at history, policy and world issues from an egocentric angle,
exclude diversities, and claim that the truth is only in their own monopoly.
Therefore they underestimate societies and cultures other than themselves, they define
them with adjectives such as “undeveloped,” “unimproved” or “developing.”
It’s tremendously wrong and dangerous to judge and to mark a whole mass of belief
group or all members of a religion and civilization by starting out with historical prejudices or
some present bad example.
However wrong is to impose one's own value judgment, one's way of life on others, it’s
also equally wrong to ignore another's sensitivities.
I always say, “There’s no Islamic terrorism.” Islam and terrorism are two contrary,
opposite words to each other that cannot come together.
I say very clearly that the inhuman attacks aimed at cities such as New York, Madrid,
London and Istanbul are also as much attacks on Islam and Muslims, on the essence of this
religion and against the members of this religion, as against these cities.
How wrong a blind enmity towards the West is, and how wrong anti-Semitism is, it’s as
much as wrong to connect Islam with terrorism….Islamophobia is also that wrong.
Dear esteemed friends…
Those who leave the feeling of justice, the feeling of equality, or the feeling of freedom
and conscience out of international relations, lay the foundations of a fatal destruction.
That some are in welfare and in safety, doesn’t remove the fact that others live in
poverty, famine and shortage.
Justice is a universal principle and it conveys a meaning provided that it is implemented
globally and coherently.
Thus for us the safety, serenity and welfare of Istanbul cannot be considered separately
from the security, serenity and welfare of New York, Baghdad, London, Mumbai, or Rio.
The attitude that we displayed for Gaza, for Jerusalem, which is the holy city of three
religions, is an attitude that put forward justice, equity, and conscience before anything else.
As we shed tears for the children who die in conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq, likewise
we shed tears for the children who lost their lives in earthquakes in Chile and in Haiti.
Just as the beliefs, languages, colors and ethnic roots of innocent civilians who died in
Georgia is out of our subject of interest, we do not regard the beliefs, the color of the skins of
civilians who died in Somalia.
Just as those who lost their lives in the twin towers, in the subways of London and
Madrid, and in Istanbul made our conscience bleed in the same way those who lost their lives in
Gaza cause our conscience to ache.
Therefore we lend an ear to the voice of the children in Gaza. We say that global peace
and justice cannot be constructed in a world where nobody lends an ear to that voice.
Dear esteemed participants;
From this day forth, we have to translate the pluralistic structure of history of humanity
into a global political language without further delay.
We have to establish a political order where everyone is represented fairly, where
nobody is despised, excluded, humiliated.
We believe that with black and white, rich and poor, Muslim and Christian, Easterner and
Westerner, everyone should have a place at the table.
Therefore we object to injustices and double standards, in the policies that we pursue.
We are doing this not only for our own national benefits, but as a necessity of universal
principles that we believe.
We want justice for everyone, freedom for everyone, welfare for everyone, security for
everyone.
We know that nobody is safe in a world where some aren't in safety. If tranquility and
welfare cannot be provided for everyone, they are not sustainable.
There are many dimensions to global peace. Many components should be brought
together in a patient, determined and consistent manner.
We have to establish a fair and egalitarian global order on a political level.
On an economic level, we must establish a just and sharing global economic order.
We must establish a sociocultural order that doesn’t turn cultural differences into points
of conflict.
We must take determined steps with regard to basic human rights and freedoms.
Here in this sense, the Alliance of Civilizations is a global peace call.
The Alliance of Civilizations, which set out to reach these goals, has today become a
global peace movement.
Supported by more than one hundred countries and institutions, the Alliance of
Civilizations has been contributing to the building of a common good by carrying out concrete
projects.
Projects developed in such areas as youth, entrepreneurship, science, art, climate
change, migration, media responsibility, minority rights, pluralism, the role of nongovernmental
organizations and conflict resolution aims to find permanent solutions to the
pressing issues of our world.
My dear and esteemed friends…
Here today in full unity, we call on the whole world and say:
Come! Let’s protect this world all together. We’re proceeding on this ship of the Earth
towards a common destiny and future. Let’s find solutions to the pressing issues of our world
together. Let’s fight poverty together. Let’s cooperate against all kinds of terrorism. Let’s purify
our world from nuclear weapons. Let’s join our forces against communicable disease, and put
an end to human and drug trafficking.
Come! Let’s lend an ear to the voice of Gaza, and achieve a lasting peace in the Middle
East together. Let’s make Iraq’s political and economic future safe and bright, and extend a
helping hand to hundreds of thousands of Iraqi widows and orphans. Let’s work together to
ensure safety, peace and prosperity for the Afghan people.
Come! Let’s save the Balkans from being a region of tension and conflicts. Let’s exert
efforts together for a permanent regional peace in the Caucasus.
Come! Let’s respect freedom of religion and conscience, and take a stand against sacred
values being insulted in the name of freedom of the press. Let’s together oppose all kinds of
broadcasts or publications, practices and policies that disregard human dignity.
Let’s show the same respect to the people of Rio, Tokyo, Baghdad, New York, Tehran,
London and Cairo. Let’s embrace all of them without discriminating among them in terms of
their religions, language, color and level of welfare.
Come! Let’s come together in common good. Come! Let’s establish a brighter, fairer,
free and prosperous world. Now, we know very well that nobody is safe, free and in peace in a
world where people are not safe, free and prosperous.
Justice, rights, prosperity and freedom should be for everyone. Then, and only then, can
we make our way through to a bright future. Ending my speech with these feelings, it is my
wish that The Third Forum of the Alliance of Civilizations will provide new opportunities for
cooperation.
I ‘d like to thank again my friend Mr. Zapatero, as well as Mr. Ban Ki-Moon for his full
support for our efforts and the Alliance of Civilizations Secretary General Mr. Sampaio.
I’d like to express my gratitude to Brazil, the host of the third summit, and Brazilian President Mr. da Silva and to First Lady of Qatar Sheikha Mozah who is going to host the fourth forum of the Alliance. I salute all of you. Thank you.

zone · Aug 6, 2010

WLTx:
i believe you're on the right track regarding the gathering together of the world's religions under the auspices of the UN.

that was planned from the start.

the Rockefellers established the World Council of Churches....that should tell you something!

but because of the diversities of beliefs, there has to be this overarching body to gain control of the leaders of all the religions.

this is not headed to a One World Gaia or Multifaith or New Age Religion as they would have us believe. they have to use the pagans and witches and apostate christians and jews to make it work. everybody is being suckered in, and led in by wolves: are we aware of the number of Freemasons that are "pastors" within the Southern Baptist Convention, for example?

the Alliance of Civilizations birthed out of the UN was thoroughly expected, since The Mother of Harlots along with the beast she rides is both an economic and religious global system. she is not yet visible to the world for who she is, for very good reason.

the focus of all of it will end up in Jerusalem, on the Temple Mount, and the war is against The Lamb and His followers.

if the guy from turkey or the pope stands on the temple mount and calls down fire from heaven, i guess that's him. but i really don't think so. the son of perdition will come out of Judaism.

good post WLTx!
z

WomanLovesTX · Aug 6, 2010

zone said:

Zone, I think there is a more important part of this Alliance of Civilations. One is Prime Minister Erdogan is the co-founder of the Alliance of Civilizations. and Two, it is not just about religion, it is religion, politics, finance, language, TOTAL ONE WORLD ORGANIZATION and TOTAL WORLD PEACE. Turkey wants to be in the EU Parliament. The process of applying started in 1985 and will end when Turkey has proven to be a "good World Player". Erdogan is now 55 years old. He aspires to be greater. At present, he is Turkey's HERO. His popularity is tremendous. He will rise in power and Turkey will join EU and someone (hopefully Erdogan) will take the unoccupied seat #666. I have so much more to share, but I hardly know where to begin. One, for the word perdition, Strong's translate as destruction. The son of perdition could very well be the son of destruction. I know this isn't going to make a lot of sense, but I am trying to prove or disprove that Turkey is the center of the prophesies and begin showing scripture and current events. iSTANBUL,Turkey is "due for the biggest and most devasting earthquake at any time". I have about ten articles attesting to this fact. The population is a megacity in a small amount of land, however it is the 3rd largest city in the world - SEE MAPS OF ISTANBUL, TURKEY. Revelation 11:13
And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

Now here is the weird part. Toads look like frogs. The toads are sensitive to pre-earthquakes and move out of the area, even during spawning.
Revelation 16:13
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon (the antichrist), and out of the mouth of the beast (the empire), and out of the mouth of the false prophet (not sure about this one...some say Pope, some say Muslim...some say new world religion - I lean toward Muslim being that Mahammad is a false prophet and Islam means "submission" to a monotheism God which will ultimately be the antichrist's claim that he is the one and true god.)
Page last updated at 08:13 GMT, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 09:13 UK
Toads can 'predict earthquakes' and seismic activity - See url article.
By Matt Walker
Editor, Earth News

http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8593000/8593396.stm

SIDE NOTE: Why do people want to live in an area that is shown to be doomed for another major disaster? I lived in SE TX for my entire life until 2005. I had never been affected by hurricanes during those 45 years. But 2005 (the most hurricanes recorded in the history of the world) brought me a pretty girl named Hurricane Rita. She was mean!! Took all my material possessions and left me with a bitter husband and two houses that required repair, but the tenanants still could occupy. Husband divorced and we sold the houses. (Nearly 2 years later when we finally came up for our turn for a contractor.) I relocated in San Antonio and I have no desire to live in SE TX. But the truth is we are not safe anywhere from disasters. When disaster strikes it is not discrimatory on where.

VW · Aug 6, 2010

WomanLovesTX said:

SIDE NOTE: Why do people want to live in an area that is shown to be doomed for another major disaster? I lived in SE TX for my entire life until 2005. I had never been affected by hurricanes during those 45 years. But 2005 (the most hurricanes recorded in the history of the world) brought me a pretty girl named Hurricane Rita. She was mean!! Took all my material possessions and left me with a bitter husband and two houses that required repair, but the tenanants still could occupy. Husband divorced and we sold the houses. (Nearly 2 years later when we finally came up for our turn for a contractor.) I relocated in San Antonio and I have no desire to live in SE TX. But the truth is we are not safe anywhere from disasters. When disaster strikes it is not discrimatory on where.

I live just outside of Austin, and I am concerned about what this area, south Texas, will be like when anarchy comes. Truly there is no safe place, other than in His arms.

WomanLovesTX · Aug 6, 2010

VW said:

AMEN AND THANK YOU LORD FOR LOVING US SO MUCH IT TOOK SENDING YOUR OWN SON, "FOR GOD SO LOVED THE (WHOLE) WORLD, THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE." JOHN 3:16

THE ENTIRE BIBLE REVELATIONS (WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MaccadeanS?) HAS FORESHADOWED THE PROPHESIES OF CHRIST AND OF THE ANTICHRIST, AS WELL AS THE NEW TESTAMENT BEING A TESTAMENT OF CHRIST.

I DO FEEL ASHAMED THAT I HAVE NOT MEMORIZED MORE SCRIPTURES. ALL THE PRE-KNOWLEDGE OF UNDERSTANDING THE ANTICHRIST REVELATIONS WILL NOT HELP WHEN WE BELIEVERS WILL BE SPEAKING TO EACH OTHER IN EXHORTATION OF THE PROMISES THE BIBLE HAS WRITTEN IN OUR HEARTS FOR US TO RECALL DURING THE TRIBULATIONS. WE MUST BE WITNESSES TO THE LOST WHO SEEK TRUTH. OTHERWISE, WHAT WOULD BE OUR PURPOSE IF CHRISTIANS AND HOLY SPIRIT ARE REMOVED BEFORE THE TRIBULATIONS?

zone · Aug 6, 2010

VW said:

yeah VW, you're in the hotseat there in Austin. i don't think it's the anarchy you have to worry about though - more likely the SWAT. i've heard the Austin SWAT has been training in Afghanistan....Rex84 and all.

you'll be okay though....as you said, you're in Him.
things got weird up here too, after the G20.
regards
zone.

zone · Aug 6, 2010

WomanLovesTX said:

WLTx,
yes, i know. the AoC is just the first mechanism....there's still lots for them to do. it all has to come under their control first....they sucker everyone in by promising inclusion and tolerance and peace.

but if you look carefully (check out Karen Armstrong at AoC, for example) the only religion they HATE is Christianity: because of it's exclusive claim.

they've planned this for a long time.
Maurice Strong, Gorbechev, Rockeller, Rothschild....all those psychopaths are not at the top of the pyramid, though they think they are: they are just useful idiots.

the real devils behind the curtain haven't stepped out yet.

i know where you're coming from looking at AoC: but are you basing your theory on the son of perdition coming from Turkey because of the verse that states that's where satan's seat was?

don't forget that city used to be in greece.

i just don't see anywhere that the bible suggests the one who sits in the temple of god showing himself that he is god will be muslim. like i say, if the guy from turkey calls fire down from heaven on the temple mount and insists people take his mark, that's the man...lol.

i believe Islam is being used as a patsy, more useful idiots, as "Uncle Joe" Stalin liked to say. just like the others. muslims from a cave no sooner brought down the towers than the handicapped patsy burned down the Reichstag. haven't we seen through the bin laden alCIAda farce yet? everything that's happening has been scripted for a long time, and these people are, as God describes them reprobate, having their consciences seared with a hot iron. we know the type as psychopathic: they have no conscience.

follow the money........that's where the power is.

i still think you're on the right track watching AoC because they give clues as to what is up next on the agenda. keep it up sister.....good and faithful watchman!

love you
zone.

p.s.: here's something interesting for you to look at if you're not already familiar with it. (the pics are embedded and i can't paste them here - the BP oil disaster is among the cards, though not at this page): cuttingedge teaches pretrib, among other things i disagree with so i don't visit their site for theology, but they have a lot of interesting news (kinda sensationalist, but interesting). seeing the cards is fascinatng.

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In 1990, role-playing inventor, Steve Jackson, was planning his newest game, which he would ultimately call the "Illuminati -- New World Order" Game, or "INWO" for short. Jackson was creating a game that would hit very, very close to home, very close to the actual plan of the Illuminati to propel the world into the New World Order -- also known as the Kingdom of Antichrist. As we shall show you, Jackson issued playing cards, three of which foretold the events of 9/11, three of which correctly predict future events just ahead of us, and two that correctly foretell the last two events that the Bible foretells will occur during the final birth pangs that will produce Antichrist!

How did Steve Jackson know the Illuminati Plan so precisely? In fact, he knew the Plan so exactly he got a surprise visit from the Secret Service, who tried their best to shut him down and prevent him from publishing his game. As you will see from viewing excerpts of Jackson's account of the raid, they were very interested in his files entitled, "Illuminist BBS". Let us listen to Jackson's account of the raid [ SJ Games vs. the Secret Service ]

"On the morning of March 1, [1990] without warning, a force of armed Secret Service agents - accompanied by Austin police and at least one civilian 'expert' from the phone company - occupied the offices of Steve Jackson Games and began to search for computer equipment. The home ... the writer of GURPS Cyberpunk, was also raided. A large amount of equipment was seized, including four computers, two laser printers, some loose hard disks and a great deal of assorted hardware. One of the computers was the one running the Illuminati BBS."

The company, "S.J. Games" fought back in court and finally won, but nearly went under financially. The investigation zeroed in on "fraud" supposedly committed by the company regarding the hacker activity and the fact that the company promoted the hacker's newsletter, "Phrack". However, this is so flimsy that it makes no common sense; in fact, the affidavit made so little sense that a Judge threw the case out, awarding S.J. Games $50,000 plus $250,000 attorney's fees. That is a lot of taxpayer's money to pay for a stupid, nonsensical case!

But, it does highlight the fact that our Illuminist government, the Secret Service then run by President George Bush (Sr.) was worried about something that S.J. Games was up to, and cooked up a reason to invade their offices and confiscate their materials. We think, after you review these materials, you will believe, as do I, that the real reason the Secret Service invaded S.J. Games was to shut them down so they could not produce the game "Illuminati -- New World Order (INWO), for it revealed too much of the plan that was still 11 years in the future. You be the judge.

from cuttingedge . org
Title: "SMOKING GUN" PROOF THAT ILLUMINATI PLAN TO ATTACK ON 9/11 AND BEYOND WAS WELL KNOWN AS FAR BACK AS 1995! Part 1 - Future Cataclysmic Events Accurately Foretold In 1995 Illuminati Card Game -- 9/11 Attack Foreseen.

WomanLovesTX · Aug 7, 2010

"but if you look carefully (check out Karen Armstrong at AoC, for example) the only religion they HATE is Christianity: because of it's exclusive claim."

I took a quick glance at Karen Armstrong and found her on the Newsletter of the United Nations Alliance of Communities and noted the following: since September 11, 2001, she has become more widely known for her work on Islam and Fundamentalism, particularly in the United States. She has addressed members of the United States Congress and has participated in the World Economic Forum in New York and Davos. (What does religion have to do with World Economic Forum?)
The UN and EU are against anything that is not totally peaceful and is only allowing countries who have the One Peaceful World mindset. The purpose is to bring all things together as one. At this time I do not see the UN or the Alliance of Communities implicating a hatred toward Christianity but a strong acceptance of all religions. Karen Armstrong is definitely an authority of understanding all religions and faith. Can you publish the AoC saying they HATE christians at this current time. (Of course, because he is called the "antichrist" it obviously means he is against Christ and Christianity, but I don't find Muslims or Islam hating us, they just feel sorry for us because we haven't embrace (in their opinion) the only true religion.)

"the real devils behind the curtain haven't stepped out yet." Hmmm. Can you elaborate more on the real devils?

"i know where you're coming from looking at AoC: but are you basing your theory on the son of perdition coming from Turkey because of the verse that states that's where satan's seat was? "

No and here is why? Remember, I believe 100% in literal translations and in this process I am sure to fall and even allow old symbolic interpretations to slip in.

Revelation 2:13
I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

He knows where Satan's seat is/ not "was" and not stating "in" Pergamos. However, it is interesting that word "seat" is used. Again, supporting the EU # 666 seat that is unoccupied.

He knows where Satan dwelleth - no mention that Satan lives right there in Pergamos. Note: Anti pas is only mentioned one time in the Bible. Looking up Anti pas in the Strong's Greek #498 "to range onself against", "Oppose themselves" and " resist".

The only thing I can see in Revelation 2:13 is all is future tense, including whoever this "Antipas" is who is a faithful martyr. (I do not believe this Antipas is Herod that was responsible for the execution of John the Baptist and participated in Jesus execution because there is no evidence that he was the faithful martyr - John the Baptist was a faithful martyr.)

God knows where they "dwell" (the coordinates may be the same, however the ownership has changed several times in history.

- Pergamos, Cyprus From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFor the ancient Greek city in Mysia, in modern-day Turkey, see Pergamon.
Pergamos (Greek: Πέργαμoς, Turkish: Beyarmudu) (Pergama) is a village located in the Larnaca District of Cyprus. The town is situated in the part of the island controlled by the de facto Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and is the site of a Green Line crossing checkpoint.

Darn computer, I was going to address more to your post Zone, but my left hand heel keeps erasing things and jumping all around the pages. So I best post now before I loose it all. Thank you for discussing these things with me.

zone · Aug 7, 2010

Hi WLTx:
haha....the computer thing

i'll start here, since i find that many watchmen have already done much legwork, and we can zero in by checking what they say. my emphases usually in red.

Rich Peterson watches AoC almost exclusively, though he was originally influenced by Constance Cumbey, and he takes part in the work at FulfilledProphecy . com.

they are genuine, and if you look at the host's (Holly) late father's theories you'll recognize them. they focus on the EU as the source of Mystery Babylon. and there are lots of reasons to do so (the division of the world into 10 regions, etc).

whereas i spent a great deal of time absorbing all of that, with much reward, i have moved beyond it (not rejected it), as i have moved beyond thinking the pope is the son of perdition. it's very easy to see how vast the conspiracy is, and how they're all in on it, but FOLLOW THE MONEY and look for the hidden ones.

re: Karen Armstrong and her group/agenda (i keep always in my mind that anyone working for and cooperating with the building of the dark kingdom is in on it knowingly, especially at that level)...

this from:
His Words Burning
Jeremiah’s Call

Obama & Solana Managing Global Insecurity
November 9, 2008

This post originally published by Rich Peterson on his blog, A Time, Times, and a Half a Time, October 26th 2008

Spearheading the implementation of Shared Security is an organization which I have monitored from its beginnings—the United Nations Alliance of Civilizations. The Alliance of Civilizations professes its mission to be “the global governance of the culture”. Its foundation is traceable to the European Union’s social cohesion policy—the social dimension of the Barcelona Process—as architected by former Marxist and present socialist Javier Solana. Solana’s social cohesion strategy was formed to “straighten out the clash of civilizations” by creating a new common civilization based upon a system of “shared values”. The new civilization will be realized once it has successfully combated religious fundamentalism worldwide. In 2006 Solana’s vision moved a step closer to reality when Kofi Annan made the Alliance of Civilizations the central organ of the United Nations global counter-terrorism strategy. The work of the Alliance includes the establishment of a global ethic and identification of those radical ideologies which lead to terrorism.

Despite Alliance of Civilizations’ claims that they seek religious tolerance, the opposite is true. As one takes the time to read what the Alliance is saying, it becomes glaringly clear that the initiative is openly hostile towards religion, in particular the three monotheistic faiths. Angelo Santagostino Chair of European Economic Integration describes the initiative as “offensive and unjustifiably hostile” towards religion. The Alliance’s governing body, the High Level Group, attributes religious fundamentalism and extremism to those who refuse to agree with a Universalist world view that we all worship the same God but follow different paths. Those individuals, they say, have adopted ‘exclusivist” ideologies which are violently radicalizing. Political dissenters who oppose globalization also fall into this category. Organizations such as Hezbollah are now considered reasonable because they practice “tactical terrorism” meaning that they have a political wing with which negotiations are possible.

Karen Armstrong, apostate nun, “religious historian” and Alliance of Civilizations High Level Group member earlier this year announced that she is writing guidelines for the interpretation of religious texts. The High Level Group has said that they have conducted a pedagogical exercise in truth which they will provide the civilization in mid 2010 and it is only extremists who will reject it.

One might expect Armstrong’s guidelines to reflect her personal theological arguments such as Christians have perverted religious texts by adopting a belief in Christ’s divinity; the serpent was more truthful than God in the garden; that God has an evil impulse and that, being a good thing, is something we need to embrace; Mary, upon learning of her pregnancy, broke into song of the coming new world order, ad nauseum.

The Alliance of Civilizations and Shared Security have been given teeth. Solana envisions his global model of Civilian Military Co-operation (CIMIC) which subjects civil society to military rule to be implemented in the event of a crisis. Solana, being a former Secretary-General of NATO, has incorporated the Alliance of Civilizations and the Barcelona Process into the NATO framework through the Riga and Prague Summit Declarations. Solana has repeatedly said the goal is to utilize American assets. The Berlin-Plus Agreement signed by President Bush gives Solana control of American assets in the event of a crisis situation. Solana’sHeadline Goals which highly militarizes the European Union is scheduled to be fully functioning in 2010. Solana speaks the language of peace while preparing for war.

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now over to Rich peterson's blog
A Time, Times, and a Half a Time

A space dedicated to reporting on the United Nations Alliance of Civilizations Initiative. It is my belief that this initiative is to be vehicle used by the New World Order to make war against the saints and those who keep the commandments of God as forefold in Daniel 7:23-26

June 13, 2010

Religious Freedom in Context of the Alliance of Civilizations

It was clear to me back in 2008 that unless the people of the United States woke up to the Alliance of Civilizations’ agenda that this country would partner with this vile thing. And so it has. On May 13 the State Department announced U.S. membership in the UN Alliance of Civilizations Initiative.

Worse yet is that this partnership happened with the help of the National Prayer Breakfast sponsored by the Fellowship Foundation, a.k.a. “The Family”. The 2010 breakfast featured Spanish Prime Minister Zapatero as its keynote speaker who professed Spain’s commitment to religious tolerance and pluralism along with its rejection of "exclusive ideology" and uncompromising fundamentalism. Zapatero's speech was a sales pitch for the Alliance of Civilizations. He was given a forum to introduce the United States Congress to what has become our new new strategic direction. Spain's reaction is not surprising...

Zapatero was not the first keynote speaker to direct the U.S. Congress down the Alliance's path. In 2009, Alliance implementation partner Tony Blair advanced the ideology that anything other than Universalism amounts to extremism. For Blair western democracies' long standing principles of religious tolerance is not enough. For if one rejects "the Other's" faith as not equally valid, then one becomes "intolerant" and is identified with extremism. This intolerance will not be tolerated. The basis of interfaith dialogue—“all [religions] different, all [outcomes] equal”—is absurd. For this requires that faiths discard their core teachings and favor of a “common spiritual value” which, as a result, redefines them. I have noticed that both Tony Blair's and President Obama's speeches echo the words of AoC High Level Group member Karen Armstrong.

Now would be a good time to review the Fellowship Foundation which has shown itself to be bedfellows with the Alliance of Civilizations. And in light of Spain's recent conference on religious tolerance within the framework of the Alliance of Civilizations, a review of this framework would also be timely.

Constance Cumbey’s research provides invaluable insight into why a “Christian” foundation would support an initiative which seeks to destroy Christianity and religious orthodoxy. One of her most disturbing discoveries was that the Fellowship Foundation had received $1.777 million from Institute of Noetic Sciences’ co-founder Paul Temple.

The Institute of Noetic Sciences is a group of conscious evolutionists! They believe that they have evolved to a higher, super human species called homo noeticus. Barbara Marx Hubbard refers to this species as homo universalis. They call for the extinction of the lower--or "egocentric" species. Where in not-too-distant history have we heard this before?

I have provided the following links to Mrs. Cumbey’s work on the Fellowship Foundation.

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okay.
so far so good.
and in line with where you are going.

i'll post so i don't lose it

zone

going beyond the VISIBLE manipulators, let's see where this leads

cont.....Institute of Noetic Sciences

zone · Aug 7, 2010

okay.
so these guys are just one player in AoC, obviously.
and their stuff is the usual new age blah blah.
the UN loves it.

BUT: are the New Agers really who they say they are? here's a good example of how the same hidden groups manifest visibly as one thing, while in reality they are something else.

remember my approach is scan their voluminous rhetoric and posturing for the same players, and the MONEY AND POWER BEHIND THEM.

from: noetic . org

WHAT IS THE INSTITUTE OF NOETIC SCIENCES?

The Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) is a 501(c)(3) research and educational organization located in Northern California on 200 acres of beautiful rolling hills just 25 miles north of the Golden Gate Bridge. We conduct, sponsor, and collaborate on leading-edge research into the potentials and powers of consciousness, exploring phenomena that do not necessarily fit conventional scientific models while maintaining a commitment to scientific rigor. IONS also has an eco-friendly retreat center that offers meeting facilities, cuisine, and accommodations for up to 120 people.

WHAT IS "NOETIC"?
The word "noetic" comes from the ancient Greek nous, for which there is no exact equivalent in English. It most closely refers to "inner knowing" or a kind of intuitive consciousness—direct and immediate access to knowledge beyond what is available to our normal senses and the power of reason.

WHAT ARE "NOETIC SCIENCES"?
Noetic science uses scientific methods to explore the "inner cosmos" of the mind (consciousness, soul, spirit) and how it relates to the "outer cosmos" of the physical world. In other words, it studies how people come to know things or affect things through experiences or capacities (intuitions, synchronicities, psi, “after-death” communication, energy healing, etc.) that have no apparent rational explanation and what this suggests about the nature of human consciousness. For more on this topic, go to our What is 'Noetic'? page.

WHO FOUNDED THE INSTITUTE OF NOETIC SCIENCES?
Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell, the sixth man to walk on the moon, founded the Institute in 1973 after experiencing what he described as a "samadhi" moment—a profound sense of universal connectedness—on his return trip from the moon. His mission for the Institute was to “broaden our knowledge of the nature and potentials of mind and consciousness and to apply that knowledge to the enhancement of human well-being and the quality of life on the planet."

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who are the Apollo Astronauts?

let's find out from THEM THEMSELVES:

from: Freemasonry.bcy . ca

GRAND LODGE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA AND YUKON

Freemasons have always been in the forefront of the scientific community; from the founding of the British Royal Society to today’s NASA programme in the United States.
The following is a short and incomplete list 1 of Brethren who have contributed to the exploration of outer space.

[FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]Administration[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Kenneth S. Kleinknecht2[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Manager,[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Apollo Program [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Command and Service Modules. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Deputy Manager,[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Gemini Program[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Manager, Project Mercury. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Fairview Lodge [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]No. 699[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Fairview, Ohio[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Clark C. McClelland[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]ScO, Space Shuttle Fleet[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]1958 - 1992[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Lodge 301[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Venus, Florida[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]James Edwin Webb[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]b. October 7, 1906[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Administrator, NASA[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]1961-1968[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]University Lodge [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]No. 408[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Chapel Hill, North Carolina[/FONT]

[FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]Astronauts[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Edwin E. "Buzz" Aldrin, Jr.3[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]b. January 20, 1930[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Gemini XII, Apollo 11[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Clear Lake Lodge [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]No. 1417[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Seabrook, Texas[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Leroy Gordon Cooper, Jr. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]b. March 6, 1927[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Mercury 9, "Faith 7", Gemini V[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Carbondale Lodge[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]No. 82[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Carbondale, Colorado[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Donn F. Eisele[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]b. June 23, 1930[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Apollo 7[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Luthor B. Turner [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Lodge No. 732[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Columbus Ohio[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]John H. Glenn, Jr. 4[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]b. July 18, 1921[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Mercury 6, "Friendship 7"[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Concord Lodge[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]No. 688[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]New Concord, Ohio[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]April 3, 1926 - [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]January 27, 1967[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Mercury 4 "Liberty Bell 7", Gemini 3, Apollo 1[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Mitchell Lodge [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]No. 228[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Mitchell, Indiana[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]James Irwin 4[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]1930-1991[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Apollo 15[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Edgar D. Mitchell[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]b. Sept. 17, 1930[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Apollo 14[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Artesia Lodge[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]No. 28[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Artesia, [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]New Mexico[/FONT]

remember this guy?
Edgar D. Mitchell....NOETIC SCIENCES? UN NGO for Aoc?

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so....in 10 minutes, what have we discovered?

sweeping away the puppets on stage, who is behind even just this one group?

not to mention the SHOCKING REALITY OF WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE GONE TO MOON (research operation paperclip)

The Freemasons are the source of the Noetic Sciences.

OKAY.

so now where do we go?

keeping in mind that the politicians and players on stage are HYPOCRITES: PLAYACTORS, acting out scripts prepared for them, who is behind the curtain pulling their strings?

without being condescending since i know you already know most of this, the answer is that the secret societies, THE KEEPERS OF THE MYSTERY RELIGIONS are behind the curtain. They are NOT the top of the pyramid, however.

as the bible tells us, so-called science ("falsely called") is most often SORCERY. this is a no-brainer for Christians. just look at what is above: Noetic Sciences + Freemasons + NASA. that's just one little combo.

so the SECRET SOCIETIES and their MYSTERY SCHOOLS though they are diverse and slippery, and many inside don't even know what they're part of, THEY TOO ARE PUPPETS, useful idiots, are clearly working most directly with the principalities and powers we war against: would you agree?

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i'll post this and continue from

Freemasons (though it's such a wide subject, i'll stick to following a narrow thread), AND THE ROLE OF THEIR SORT in the building the Kingdom of Darkness in preparation for the son of perdition.

if you've read my other posts you already know where this is going. let's see if there's any merit based on where we started, the AoC.

love z
*whew* taking a break....back shortly.

zone · Aug 7, 2010

an aside from the claim of the masons themselves on their apollo site, they set up the British Royal Society - just to show they aren't johnny-come-latelies.:

this snippet from Brittanica:

the oldest national scientific society in the world and the leading national organization for the promotion of scientific research in Britain. The Royal Society originated on November 28, 1660, when 12 men met after a lecture at Gresham College, London, by Christopher Wren (then professor of astronomy at the college) and resolved to set up “a Colledge for the promoting of Physico-Mathematicall Experimentall Learning.” Those present included the scientists Robert Boyle and Bishop John Wilkins and the courtiers Sir Robert Moray and William, 2nd Viscount Brouncker. (Brouncker was to become the Royal Society’s first president.) The initiative had various more or less close precursors, including a group that met in London in 1645, the Oxford “Experimental Philosophy Club” in the 1650s, and correspondence networks such as that of the reformer and philanthropist Samuel Hartlib; but the body set up in 1660 was consciously new, with ambitions to become a truly national society devoted to the promotion of science. These ambitions were put into effect over the next few years, particularly through a charter of incorporation granted by Charles II in 1662 and revised in 1663. The royal charter provided an institutional structure for the society, with president, treasurer, secretaries, and council. Though it had royal patronage almost from the start, the society has always remained a voluntary organization, independent of the British state.

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i won't bother following those players though it's interesting.

sticking to the Freemasons, let's see what they REALLY BELIEVE: not what their front groups are pushing (the happy fuzzy one-worldism).

this is FROM THE SAME SITE.
this is in their own words, TODAY....they do a whitewash, but any net search tells the truth.

i'll follow up back full circle, using Scripture to show why i have come to the conclusions i have.
Jesus warned about the leaven of the Pharisees. it's still true today. there's one more link to a hidden group tha will bring things into focus.

what is important is to notice who is CONSPICUOUSLY ABSENT from AoC and other UN type discussions.

[FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]The Kabbalah and Freemasonry[/FONT]
Rooted in the ancient Egyptian Mysteries, three different versions of basically the same teachings can be identified by three different spellings: Kabbalah, Cabala and Qabalah. The Kabbalah is an essentially Jewish mystical or esoteric school. Although the Christian Church Fathers of the first century were demonstratably Kabbalists, mystical or gnostic elements within the Church largely disappeared within the first three centuries, only to reappear as a Christian Cabala during the Renaissance. A third, often hidden, stream of mystical Western philosophy absorbed many Egyptian, Jewish and Christian mystical elements and termed them the Qabalah.[FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]1[/FONT] Christian writers such as Agrippa, in his De Occulta Philosophia Libri III (1533), or Giovanni Pico della Mirandola, and also the Roman Catholic Church, spell it "Cabala," the Latin spelling transferred over to English. Contemporary neo-hermeticists, following MacGregor Mathers (1854-1918) and Aleister Crowley (1875-1947), will use "Qabala" or some other derivitive.

The word comes from the Hebrew קַבָּלָה, meaning "to receive". According to Ben-Yehudah’s Hebrew-English Dictionary, in context it is a received body of knowledge, passed down orally, which serves as an exegesis of the Hebrew Scriptures, particularly the Torah or Pentateuch. A direct experience of God is central to the ideas of Kabbalah. Mackey’s Encyclopedia of Freemasonry devotes almost three pages to the Kabbalah, noting "It has sometimes been used in an enlarged sense, as comprehending all the explanations, maxims, and ceremonies which have been traditionally handed down to the Jews; but in that more limited acceptation, in which it is intimately connected with the symbolic science of Freemasonry, the Cabala may be defined to be a system of philosophy which embraces certain mystical interpretations of Scripture, and metaphysical and spiritual beings." "Buxtorf (Lexicon of the Talmud) defines the Kabbalah to be a secret science, which treats in a mystical and enigmatical manner of things divine, angelical, theological, celestial, and metaphysical; the subjects being enveloped in striking symbols and secret modes of teaching. Much use is made of it in the advanced degrees, and entire Rites have been constructed on its principles. Hence it demands a place in any general work on Freemasonry."[FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]2[/FONT]

These quotes from the 19th century, and others like them, give anti-masons free rein to claim Freemasonry is cabalistic without really understanding either Freemasonry or the Kabbalah.

[FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]The Kabbalah defined[/FONT]

The Kabbalah is divided into two kinds, the Practical and the Theoretical. The Practical is occupied with the construction of talismans and amulets and is of no interest to Freemasonry. Practical Kabbalah has its ancient roots in the "Thirteen Enochian Keys" of Enoch son of Qain, along with a highly eclectic admixture of material taken from Egyptian, Mesopotamian, and other non-Hebrew sources. The "Thirteen Enochian Keys" of Enoch son of Qain are reflected in such works as The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage, the Greater and Lesser Keys of Solomon, and mediaeval grimoires such as the Armadel, Goetia/Lemegeton, etc. The primary text of the mystical Kabbalah that appears to occupy a central place of importance in the hermetic Kabbalah is the Sefer Yetzirah (Book of Formation). The two most prominent contemporary schools of Practical or Hermetic Kabbalah are the Golden Dawn and the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.). [FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]3[/FONT] The bulk of the mainstream orthodox Jewish Kabbalists focus primarily on the Sefer HaZohar (Book of Splendor) and the Etz HaChayyim (Tree of Life).

They engage in practices of spiritual refinement (avodah) and meditation (devekut, "cleaving to God") gleaned from the writings left by Abraham Abulafia, Azriel of Gerona (disciple of Yitza'aq the Blind), Chayyim Vital (recorder of the teachings of Yitza'aq Luria), Dov Baer (Mezhirecher Maggid and successor to Israel ben Eliezer), Nachman of Bretzlav, and others. These practices include a variety of visualization techniques, breathing exercises, movements coordinated with the permutation and combination of Hebrew letters, mantric intonation of sacred phrases, meditative prayer, and chanting devotional songs. [FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]4[/FONT] The Theoretical Kabbalah is divided into the Dogmatic, which is a summary of rabbinical theosophy and philosophy, and the Literal, which teaches a mystical mode of explaining sacred things by assigning numerical values to the letters of words. The Literal Cabala — divided into Gematria, Notaricon, and Temura — was made use of in the writing of what Mackey termed the "Advanced" degrees of Freemasonry. These more properly should be termed the additional degrees of concordant masonic bodies. The Kabbalah plays no role in regular Craft Freemasonry.

[FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]History of the Kabbalah[/FONT]

After the destruction of the Second Temple of Jerusalem (70 CE), many Jews who relocated to Egypt were influenced by the Alexandrian Pythagoreans. Jewish leaders and intellectuals such as Artapanos, Philon the Alexandrian, the historian Josephus Flavius, the Hasmoneans, Johanan Hurcanus, Alexander Jannean, Hanoch, Hillel, Johanan ben-Zakkai, and others were central figures of this spiritual-scientific development. The esoteric Jewish theosophy, or religious mystic philosophy, developed from about this time. In the absence of a central spiritual leadership, under foreign and hostile rule, some regional Jewish schools developed into sects such as the Essenes, Nazarenes, Pharisees, and Sadducees. The Jewish Kabbalah reached its peak during the twelfth and thirteenth centuries, arguably responsible for the development of both science and mysticism in Europe. In the eleventh and twelfth centuries the greatest contributions to science were made by Jewish scholars, especially in Spain. Names known from religious sources as "Rabbis" and "Kabbalists", are known in history books of mathematics and science as outstanding inventors and developers. [FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]5[/FONT] A distinctly Christian Cabala may be said to have started with the work of Ramon Lull (1232-1317) during a period of religious tolerance in Spain. Starting in the late fifteenth century CE, a movement arose among some Jewish converts to Christianity in Spain to ascribe a distinctly Christian context to the hidden meanings of Kabbalistic doctrines. This movement gained momentum from speculation among Florentine Platonists that the Kabbalah contained a lost revelation that explains the secrets of the Catholic faith. This cross-pollination led to the emergence of a distinctly Christian Cabala founded by Giovanni Pico della Mirandola (1463-1494). Pico saw in the Cabala a link to the Greek philosophers as well as a proof of the divinity of Jesus Christ. Pico’s writings, and subsequently those of John Reuchlin (1455-1522), created an interest that spread throughout the intellectual European community.

In the sixteenth century, the appearance of Kabbalistic texts in Latin translation enhanced attempts to draw further parallels between esoteric Jewish doctrines and Christianity. Guillaume Postel translated and published the Zohar and Sefer Yetzirah into Latin even before they were published in Hebrew. Latin texts in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries were influential in standardizing "Cabala" as the spelling commonly associated with the Christian perspective on Kabbalistic teachings. In the seventeenth century, the centre of Christian Cabala study moved to England and Germany, where its status was boosted by the theosophical writings of Jacob Boehme and the compendium of Christian Knorr von Rosenroth. Von Rosenroth and Athanasius Kirchner extrapolated the Cabalistic allusion of Adam Kadmon to be a reference to Jesus as the primordial man in Christian theology. In the final phase in the development of the Christian Cabala in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, it became permeated with alchemical symbolism and conjoined with the emerging doctrines of theosophy and rosicrucianism. Those who believe Freemasonry’s roots are found in rosicrucian and hermetic teachings will therefore see the influence of the Kabbalah in its development.

[FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]Claims and accusations[/FONT]
Those who claim Kabbalistic roots for Freemasonry are of two, widely different, perspectives. The first group are generally religious fundamentalists who, a priori, condemn Freemasonry, Judaism, and the Kabbalah as being anti-Christian and often equate the whole with satanism. They will also make such accusations as "Freemasonry and the New World Order are Nazism revived." [FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]6[/FONT]; "...that one key ritual in freemasonry involves drinking from human skulls...." [FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]7[/FONT]; and "Freemasonry is the instrument created to carry out this return to paganism." [FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]8[/FONT] They will also quote, out of context, from Albert Pike’s Morals and Dogma: "all the Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and their Symbols." [FONT=Palatino, Times, Serif]9[/FONT] and claim that Freemasonry is divided into two branches. "There is the branch of the Scottish Rite and the branch of the Shriners. Scottish Freemasonry is the Christian branch while the Shriners are actually the Islamic branch." The Prophecy Institute in Keene Texas will, for a "donation" of $26, "inform you of what is the Cabala, and how it influences Today’s governments." To anyone who has made an objective study of either Freemasonry or the Kabbalah, these accusations and claims are patently ridiculous. The second group is composed of freemasons and kabbalists who promote the theory of Freemasonry’s link to the Kabbalah. They are entitled to their opinions, but it must be stressed that they do not speak for Freemasonry. They are only expressing their opinions. They view the study of both as enhancing their relationship with God and have come to some personal conclusions about what they perceive as similarities. Whatever intellectual or spiritual similarities there may be between Freemasonry and the Kabbalah, any historical links are strictly conjectural and unsupported.

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ya right.
anyways, don't forget the thread: it started at the UN AoC, went to Noetic Science, to Apollo/NASA, to Freemasonry, to Kabbalah.

don't forget the woman in the ephah in Zechariah 5.

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more later, onto a more deeply hidden group.
z

zone · Aug 7, 2010

i gotta take off for a bit.

just a clarification, though i have already been clear on it.
Jesus makes it clear we're not dealing with His sheep.
they weren't then, and they aren't now.
they are not the true remnant, never have been.

the true remnant rejects the Talmud, and stays with Moses.

John 8
39They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Rev 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

zone · Aug 8, 2010

WLTx:
after some thought, i've decided to hold off on more here, just because it can be scary for new believers.
i'd love to talk to you more privately, to finish off my line of thought, and to learn of your studies.

love zone.

leaving off on this note,

Here's a VERY DEEP set of verses that allows us to see what The Pharisees were really all about. Remember that they had chosen ORAL TRADITIONS from Babylon over Moses. notice that Jesus said that though they sat in the seat of Moses, keeper of the Law, they DID NOT believe the writings of Moses. they were ACTORS (hypocrite in greek comes originally from stage performers).

Even a tiny bit of research into Kabbalah lets us see that That Mystery Religion teaches ETERNAL LIFE can be gained through magic, particularly through secrets WITHIN THE LETTERS of Scripture, among other means. i.e.: The Tree of Life, esoteric style.

they weren't just mistaken. they knew (and know) what they are doing.

John 5
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. 41 I receive not honour from men. 42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. 43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. 44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? 45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

WomanLovesTX · Aug 8, 2010

Zone, would like to keep in touch and discussion, however your profile page has no access to write you. Please feel free to contact me.

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