2 Peter 3:16

[PaulMack]

2 Peter 3:16
[SUP]16 [/SUP] as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.

Why do some people and Churches twist the Scriptures?

What do they expect to receive from this?

Which Churches do twist the Scriptures?

 

[posthuman]

well for a start, groups like the mormons, the jehovah's witnesses, seventh-day-adventist, unitarian universalists etc. twist scripture to put people into bondage to them, and to bend the scripture into supporting the heretical ideas of their false prophets, that are quite contrary to a careful understanding of the gospel.

that's a pretty broad and existential set of questions you got there, Paul

also, welcome to these forums!

 

[KennethC]

Like posthuman said that list can be a very long list, so it might be better to just mention a few twists at a time and then let's go from there.

Because all your "isms" and man made term doctrines such as OSAS are guilty as we'll.

 

[oldthennew]

all so called 'religious institutions' should be put in question.....

Pure Religion has been defiled in modern language....

follow Christ and His doctrine and all will become well with you in your walk,,,,,

 

[mpaper345]

I believe false doctrines happen,because someone has a belief that is not part of the Bible,and they drag it in to the Bible,and it becomes their foundation for interpretating scripture.

Everyone does not see the same thing in the Bible unless they take the Bible for what it is,and do not drag anything in to it,and you cannot fully understand the Bible unless you are led of the Spirit,which not everybody that claims Christ is led of the Spirit,which God said they have a form of godliness,but they deny the power thereof,ever learning but never able to come to the truth.

Everyone has a belief about reality,and what they consider to be the truth,but not everybody when they accept the Bible take the Bible for what it is,but might hold unto a belief that is not part of the Bible,and interpret scripture according to that belief.

It is like Joseph Smith,who had a belief that was not part of the Bible,and dragged it in to the Bible,and it became his foundation for interpretating scripture,and many others like him.

That is obviously what happened with the Roman Catholic Church,that instead of abandoning their pagan ways,they held unto them,and it became their foundation for interpretating scripture,which they are interpretating according to the flesh,which I know Catholics love God,but the Vatican and the Pope should know better.

And that's the thing,a lot of people are interpretating the Bible according to the flesh,because they have a belief that is according to the flesh,and since so many people have varying opinions concerning things,there will be a lot of different interpretations,but not so much as now with the new age movement,and their interpretation of the Bible.

The theory of evolution has created quite a stir,that the new age movement has an interpretation that believes in evolution,and exalts people,and diminishes God,based on the occult,and witchcraft.They interpret the scriptures according to witchcraft beliefs.

That is what they belief according to the flesh,so they interpret the scriptures according to that belief,and the people in the occult are far more arrogant,and self exalting,than ever before,why,because of evolution,which took God out of the picture,so there is no God to fear,and no God to offend,for their highly arrogant,and self exalting ways.

We live in a world of so many varying beliefs concerning reality,and how people want to hear things,so there will be varying interpretations of the Bible,because many that believe will not want to hear it according to the truth,which the biggest area they lack is they want the flesh to have some control in their life,and to exalt themself.

 

[ukok102nak]

:smoke: those people who twist and shout the name of the lord
without any concern unto the holy scriptures
the written word of god
are people who would like
to bargain our souls to those evil things
instead of themselves . . . ...

please
:read:
Mark 7:13
Making the word of God of no effect through your tradition, which all of you have delivered: and many such like things do all of you.

:happy: and another reason is
:read:
Jude 4
For there are certain men crept in unexpectedly, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

:ty:


God bless us all always

 

[KJV1611]

2 Peter 3:16
[SUP]16 [/SUP] as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.

Why do some people and Churches twist the Scriptures?

What do they expect to receive from this?

Which Churches do twist the Scriptures?

People twist scriptures because the scripture doesn't agree with their pet doctrine. Not too many "Christians" are interested in knowing God, they're more intersted in creating their own god. Almost all churches do this... the exception being the true church, the body of Christ.

 

[Word_Swordsman]

2 Peter 3:16
[SUP]16 [/SUP] as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.

Why do some people and Churches twist the Scriptures?

There are probably many reasons. The scriptures warn us about evil people deliberately distorting scriptures to their ungodly gain.

From my own view I don't see that locally, but do see a common cause and effect.

Like the "best minds" of scientists fall into self delusions sometimes, so do potentially many other people. An avowed evolutionist might always look at some scrap of fossil "evidence" always interpreting it subjectively as proof of evolution due to the extreme need for solid evidence in favor of his belief. From such conclusions arise embarrassing hoaxes and grave errors of judgement.

When someone latches onto a Bible passage taken as a promise from God, the final handling of that passage is likely to be based on the experience of the application of those scriptures. Rather than hold to faith in the matter, failure of the promise to fulfill a desire can lead to a new analysis of the scripture, resulting in an erroneous interpretation that becomes doctrine.

If a scripture doesn't meet my expectation, perhaps I misunderstood it's original purpose? In wrestling with that, perhaps I am found teaching others the opposite promise that God originally meant? If I was hopeful that obedience to a verse would result in financial prosperity, but I ended up bankrupt, was it because I refused to work because the work was hard, or the scripture had nothing to do with that promise?

All of the promises from God, related in scriptures, require living by faith. If there's no lasting faith, then there are no positive results from belief. Faith seems too elusive to many Christians who then settle for excuses for their lack of faith that result in doctrines that dismiss certain promises throughout our congregational circle. Failure to find spiritual value in the speaking in unknown tongues with interpretation then falls under a list of demonic effects to beware of. From there a false teaching spreads stating that anyone doing that is working for the Devil, so tongues are not allowed.

Next might come a movement within that congregation, discovering spiritual value in that church gift, them departing as accused of heresy, beginning yet another denomination, or non denominational congregation.

The problem was present while Jesus led his apostles in ministry. Hos emphasis is on the bottom line salvation of souls, not specific "we do it this way" habits that could vary so much as to cause a suspicion of false doctrines.
Luke 9:49-50 (KJV)
[SUP]49 [/SUP] And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
[SUP]50 [/SUP] And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

 

[Laodicea]

2 Peter 3:16 KJV
(16) As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.


Speaking of what things?


2 Peter 3:14 KJV
(14) Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.


Paul spoke of being found in Him in peace, without spot and blameless. This is what people twist to their own destruction.

 

[posthuman]

2 Peter 3:16 KJV
(16) As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.


Speaking of what things?


2 Peter 3:14 KJV
(14) Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.


Paul spoke of being found in Him in peace, without spot and blameless. This is what people twist to their own destruction.

yeah you might not want to skip 2 Peter 3:15 like that, especially not in the thread about twisting scripture.

Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation,
just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.​

now why would you want to skip that? the Lord's patience bringing salvation! that's good stuff, man. gospel truth

 

[Laodicea]

yeah you might not want to skip 2 Peter 3:15 like that, especially not in the thread about twisting scripture.

Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation,
just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.​

now why would you want to skip that? the Lord's patience bringing salvation! that's good stuff, man. gospel truth

Yes Paul did write of the longsuffering of our Lord. it relates to this verse.

2 Peter 3:9 KJV
(9) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


But what is it that people twist from Paul's writings? The fact that we need to be found in Him in peace without spot and blameless when He returns.

 

[KenAllan]

Matthew 15:8-9
[SUP]8 [/SUP] 'These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.' "

This is what Paul was speaking about in 2 Peter 3:16.

A good example of this is the Catholic Doctrine of Mary being our Mediator between us and God.

To their destruction the Catholics teach Mary is our Mediator.

2 Peter 3:16 has NOTHING to do with being found in peace in Him!