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thanks father!
i went all the way to Oregon to get the blueberries, father.
perfect mix of rain and sun this year.

North American Blueberry Product

father, this Law thing is cool, and i know we're obeying it perfectly, but maybe show a teensy bit of mercy (just this once?). i mean what if.....i'm just saying, what IF the guy was a ......*whispers 'sinner'* who needs GRACE?

don't we have provision for that?

anyways, father.....i'm off to prepare for thy breakfast, for i knowest that thou lovest eggs alsoest.
it's 3 days journey hence, so i shalt take my leave speedily. say goodbye to mother!

thy loving, and always perfectly obedient in word thought and deed daughter,
zoneth.


Oh, it does my heart good to have raised a perfect righteous daughter in thought, word and deed. If you my dear request a bit of provisional grace for this young man I see no harm nor do I intend to give him more than what you have asked. After his flogging he will be put under the shade of the Juniper tree instead of the hot sun. Please hasten your journey and increase the allotment of blueberries that we may have plenty for the winter. You are good daughter and you make your father and Rabbi proud.
 
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2nd Corinthians 5
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
 
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Lou Engle

“I believe we’re headed to an Elijah/Jezebel showdown on the Earth, not just in America but all over the globe, and the main warriors will be the prophets of Baal versus the prophets of God, and there will be no middle ground,” ….“There’s an Elijah generation that’s going to be the forerunners for the coming of Jesus, a generation marked not by their niceness but by the intensity of their passion,” …”The kingdom of heaven suffers violence and the violent take it by force. Such force demands an equal response, and Jesus is going to make war on everything that hinders love, with his eyes blazing fire.
I totally agree with this, and I join with Jesus to war against everything that hinders love, that would include you. You are a Jezebel, a prophet of Baal. Of course you would hate such a statement as this.

2nd Corinthians 5
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.


Zone, I plead with you in Christ stead, turn from your idols, and be reconciled to God.
 

damombomb

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My opinion is my best friend of 18 yrs has turned to their belief, I asked her what about the
churches in rev. and the ones paul set up, she couldnt answer, said to ask lady who was
teaching her.she no longer goes to church only group studies,I assume they are the jews
who believe in jesus now, but my friend studies torah, moses law, they celebrate all jewish
holidays,ect.and saturday is sabbath. What is your opinion?
 
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My opinion is my best friend of 18 yrs has turned to their belief, I asked her what about the
churches in rev. and the ones paul set up, she couldnt answer, said to ask lady who was
teaching her.she no longer goes to church only group studies,I assume they are the jews
who believe in jesus now, but my friend studies torah, moses law, they celebrate all jewish
holidays,ect.and saturday is sabbath. What is your opinion?
If your friend is Jewish that is fine. If you friend in Gentile then she is not supposed to convert to Judaism. if you are close enough maybe you two could study Galatians together (Galatians is referring to more than circumcision it is telling Gentiles not to enter into the Old Covenant) However I do keep a Saturday Sabbath myself because it is part of the 10 commandments of which I think all believers should keep.

I dont necessarily think it is wrong to keep the feast, but a Gentile should remain a Gentile, and a Jew a Jew. The messianic movement is great for Jewish believers, no so much for Gentiles.
 
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I totally agree with this, and I join with Jesus to war against everything that hinders love, that would include you. You are a Jezebel, a prophet of Baal. Of course you would hate such a statement as this.

2nd Corinthians 5
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.


Zone, I plead with you in Christ stead, turn from your idols, and be reconciled to God.
Except for a small handful here, nobody's buying your goods. How could they after reading nonsense posts like this one ? Time to put your big boy pants on and grow up a tad.....both in Christ and in the world's sense.
 
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Except for a small handful here, nobody's buying your goods. How could they after reading nonsense posts like this one ? Time to put your big boy pants on and grow up a tad.....both in Christ and in the world's sense.
To bad they do not have a delete button in this forum

I will ask nicely that unclefester, Red, Zone or anyone else that does not want to have constructive, edifying discussion about the bible or related issues to not post on this thread anymore. I, and the others who are trying to have actual conversation, and not simply start disputes would appreciate it.

If any of you have a biblical question or something of substance to add, feel free, but once again if you just want to argue, and insult, could you please refrain yourselves.


Much love, God bless you all.
 

damombomb

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If your friend is Jewish that is fine. If you friend in Gentile then she is not supposed to convert to Judaism. if you are close enough maybe you two could study Galatians together (Galatians is referring to more than circumcision it is telling Gentiles not to enter into the Old Covenant) However I do keep a Saturday Sabbath myself because it is part of the 10 commandments of which I think all believers should keep.

I dont necessarily think it is wrong to keep the feast, but a Gentile should remain a Gentile, and a Jew a Jew. The messianic movement is great for Jewish believers, no so much for Gentiles.


Friend is gentile,turned to Judaism,since I have not ,were not such friends anymore,she thinks Im
not in truth,because I dont do same. I have tried to tell her,but doesnt work,just pray.
 
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Friend is gentile,turned to Judaism,since I have not ,were not such friends anymore,she thinks Im
not in truth,because I dont do same. I have tried to tell her,but doesnt work,just pray.
Yes we need to pray for her. Not only because she turned to Judaism which is spoke against by Paul in the scripture, but because she looks down on other Gentiles that have not.

In the book of Galatians that was the problem. Judaism proselytes that had accept Jesus as Messiah were telling the none proselyte Gentile believers that they had to also convert to Judaism as well as accept Jesus. Paul told them not only that they didnt have to, but that the should not.
 

damombomb

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The lady who is teaching her told her she was chosen jew.
 
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The lady who is teaching her told her she was chosen jew.
Weird...most Messianic movements understand that Gentile are not to convert to Judaism. The main reason they believe this is because of the Shama

''Hear O' Israel the Lord your God, The Lord is One (The only One)

the Shama teaches that the God of Israel is the only God therefore He is also the God of the Nations. however if Jews are assemulated into the Gentile Church then god would only be the God of the nations, or if Gentile who believe in Jesus convert to Judaism then He would only be the god of the Jews

For God to be both the God of Israel, and of the Jesus then we must remain who we are, and a gentile becoming a Jew is as unnatural as a man becoming a woman

Romans 3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:


Her teacher must be rogue, because most Messianic Jews do not believe in converting Gentiles. For the reasons i stated above.
 
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To bad they do not have a delete button in this forum

I will ask nicely that unclefester, Red, Zone or anyone else that does not want to have constructive, edifying discussion about the bible or related issues to not post on this thread anymore. I, and the others who are trying to have actual conversation, and not simply start disputes would appreciate it.

If any of you have a biblical question or something of substance to add, feel free, but once again if you just want to argue, and insult, could you please refrain yourselves.


Much love, God bless you all.
This is for constructive purposes. I don't think that anyone has contaminated you or this thread in any way. Your request is reasonable but I also suggest that you take it to heart and apply the same grace to yourself.
 

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Thank you 4runner.I have noticed other people doing same thing,seems like they only talk about torah. It really sadens me, we have been sisters in the Lord for long time.But God!
Be blessed and please keep on teaching.
 
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Originally Posted by 4runner

To bad they do not have a delete button in this forum

I will ask nicely that unclefester, Red, Zone or anyone else that does not want to have constructive, edifying discussion about the bible or related issues to not post on this thread anymore. I, and the others who are trying to have actual conversation, and not simply start disputes would appreciate it.

If any of you have a biblical question or something of substance to add, feel free, but once again if you just want to argue, and insult, could you please refrain yourselves.


Much love, God bless you all.
This is for constructive purposes. I don't think that anyone has contaminated you or this thread in any way. Your request is reasonable but I also suggest that you take it to heart and apply the same grace to yourself.
Remember two things about pointing fingers. first, when you point at someone you have three fingers pointing back at you, secondly before you point make sure your hands are clean.

God bless you brother.
 
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Thank you 4runner.I have noticed other people doing same thing,seems like they only talk about torah. It really sadens me, we have been sisters in the Lord for long time.But God!
Be blessed and please keep on teaching.
It saddnes me too when people get caught in such things.

Thank you for the blessing, i receive it ;)
 
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Remember two things about pointing fingers. first, when you point at someone you have three fingers pointing back at you, secondly before you point make sure your hands are clean.

God bless you brother.
Don't go there because your hands are far from being clean with some of the wicked things that you have said about some on this site. Instead of being still before God you became reckless with your tongue and let it rip. You are not without guilt and far from being sinless. You can take that any way you want. None of us are without sin, just remember that.
 
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I totally agree with this, and I join with Jesus to war against everything that hinders love, that would include you. You are a Jezebel, a prophet of Baal. Of course you would hate such a statement as this.

2nd Corinthians 5
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.


Zone, I plead with you in Christ stead, turn from your idols, and be reconciled to God.
The only idol Zone has in her life right now is me. Didn't you know that and how can she turn from me when she idolizes me so. You think too much of yourself.
 

zone

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Don't go there because your hands are far from being clean with some of the wicked things that you have said about some on this site. Instead of being still before God you became reckless with your tongue and let it rip. You are not without guilt and far from being sinless. You can take that any way you want. None of us are without sin, just remember that.
hi Redster.
i was wondering (to myself since i'm not welcome on this thread) why the poster isn't being counselled by "the Pastor" that returning to Judaism after hearing of the good things of the New Covenant means game over?

oh well.

we need a Grace, Grace, the Throne of Grace thread....let's see...i wonder who'd do it justice...hmmm.....it would have to be someone who never gave up on people, was always ready to handle with care....hmmmm


 

zone

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The only idol Zone has in her life right now is me. Didn't you know that and how can she turn from me when she idolizes me so. You think too much of yourself.
hi Redster.
are you okay with being painted gold and placed on a pedestal?

cuz that's kinda the minimum i require for my idols.
plus, you'd have to make it past simon cowell.
personally i think you can do it.
just pick something like "i did it my way"

love, and totally starstruck
the most zonest