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Cup-of-Ruin

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Not to debate, but to simply give one great example that you deny happening.
The death camps, the genocide of the jewish people by Hitler.
I know you will argue many things here and deny, claim all kinds of things.
Save your time and energy.
It did happen, I knew victems of this.
Nothing you say of claim will change the truth.
Weve debated this before, I will not debate it again with you.
I know the truth.
You will believe what you choose to believe.
As I said before, if you want to dispute it, go before God Our Father in Jesus and debate it with him.
I will believe all I do in the name of Jesus Our Lord and savour.
If you can convice Jesus, then he will convince me.
In the love, truth and name of Jesus.
God bless, pickles
You misunderstand me, I said what is it that I have said that is untrue? Why do you bring up a historical subject that has nothing to do with this thread or me or the subject that is being discussed? I asked you, seeming that you called me a liar who spoke untruths, what exactly is it that I lied about? To that you responded something about Hitler???? What are you talking about? you do not make sense, logic is a defining factor in the life of a Christian, why are you not logical?

I ask you again to explain exactly what I have said that is lies? Can you do that?
 

pickles

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I wonder sometimes how it is possible that you have this much patience with difficult people. Maybe most women are like this? Perhaps that's why us men need to be united with our other half. ;)

Ok, fine, you convinced me with your witnessing. No more jokes. But no banning of them! I need them to practice my patience! And that's no joke!
Oh please keep the humor, it is one of Gods great gifts.
And how can I be patient? Because God was so patient with me, I figure I should return the favor.
Smiles and God bless, pickles
 

pickles

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You misunderstand me, I said what is it that I have said that is untrue? Why do you bring up a historical subject that has nothing to do with this thread or me or the subject that is being discussed? I asked you, seeming that you called me a liar who spoke untruths, what exactly is it that I lied about? To that you responded something about Hitler???? What are you talking about? you do not make sense, logic is a defining factor in the life of a Christian, why are you not logical?

I ask you again to explain exactly what I have said that is lies? Can you do that?
One last time cup, one does as one says.
You support one lie,and that does have tremendous bering on all you say.
It makes all else because of the reason behind the lie, lose its value.
You believe the truth is the lie.
I cannot accept your kind of truth.
I will not debate it, nor will I be subject to your manipulation of my words or any others.
You know exactly to what I speak.
We will never agree.
But that dosnt mean I will not hope. :D
God bless, pickles
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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One last time cup, one does as one says.
You support one lie,and that does have tremendous bering on all you say.
It makes all else because of the reason behind the lie, lose its value.
You believe the truth is the lie.
I cannot accept your kind of truth.
I will not debate it, nor will I be subject to your manipulation of my words or any others.
You know exactly to what I speak.
We will never agree.
But that dosnt mean I will not hope. :D
God bless, pickles
What have I said that is untrue, you are calling me a liar, explain yourself as to what I have lied about, when you say 'your kind of truth' that is silly, there is only one truth, if I am not in accordance with that truth, then please explain exactly where I have lied, where? You are calling me a liar, so what is the lie? Tell me, answer the question.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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Here is what a true Christian today sounds like;

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=481

Destroying lies of Satan on a daily basis, not like pretend christians playing at church who sound like a broken beatles record; 'love, love me do, you know I love you', NO, I mean real Christians who are under constant persecution, surveillance, being dragged before masonic courts, jailed, beaten up, sometimes just murdered, I mean real Christians, not these fake ones, but real Christians. Would you even know what one is?
 
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oopsies

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Oh please keep the humor, it is one of Gods great gifts.
And how can I be patient? Because God was so patient with me, I figure I should return the favor.
Smiles and God bless, pickles
Yes, but we both know that I was using it to make a mockery of them which isn't very effective witnessing. ;)
 
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Harley_Angel

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Here is what a true Christian today sounds like;

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=481

Destroying lies of Satan on a daily basis, not like pretend christians playing at church who sound like a broken beatles record; 'love, love me do, you know I love you', NO, I mean real Christians who are under constant persecution, surveillance, being dragged before masonic courts, jailed, beaten up, sometimes just murdered, I mean real Christians, not these fake ones, but real Christians. Would you even know what one is?
Those things do not make a real Christian. You are delusional if you think that the only way to call yourself a Christian is if you've been physically persecuted. Have you been brought to courts, jailed, beaten, or under surveillance?

Love God, love your neighbor, those are the traits of a true Christian. God calls us each to different things because we can not fight all the evil in the world by ourselves.

I honestly think you need to take a step back Cup and watch the words you use against fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. We are here to inform, uplift, and teach, not to call people evil, judge the contents of their hearts, call them psychopaths, and tell them they had better repent, or else. You are not infallible, everything that spills from your lips (or keyboard) is not the Truth, you are a sinner and a man just like the rest, so stop acting like you've got authority from God to judge us if we don't agree with something you say.

Pickles, you are a beautiful soul, and an astounding Christian. Everything I have seen come from you has been peaceful, loving, and kind. You do know a true Christian because you ARE a true Christian.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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U.S. aid funds illegal occupation of Palestine West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza Strip. U.S. and Israel in violation of international law regards weapons used for the killing and injuring of Palestinian civilians, destruction Palestinian infastructure, farms, property, blockade of the Gasa Strip, and the building of illegal settlements and prison walls, bars, gates and enclosures illegally detaining and abusing the inhabitants of a sovereign nation.

http://www.aidtoisrael.org/


learn how to stop aid to Israel.
 

superdave5221

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Scary new propaganda video from the temple institute. They blame America's economic woes on not helping with the temple. Wow...

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWQ97A0_m4Y[/video]​
I have to disagree with you about this video as being propaganda. However, I have to wonder why a supposedly temple expert would not know more about the ark of the covenant. The picture preceding the video is not a true representation. It shows the carrying poles near the top of the sides when they are actually attached to the feet.

Exodus 37: 1 Bezalel made the ark of acacia wood--two and a half cubits long, a cubit and a half wide, and a cubit and a half high. 2 He overlaid it with pure gold, both inside and out, and made a gold molding around it. 3 He cast four gold rings for it and fastened them to its four feet, with two rings on one side and two rings on the other. 4 Then he made poles of acacia wood and overlaid them with gold. 5 And he inserted the poles into the rings on the sides of the ark to carry it

The poles were placed at the feet so that the ark would rise above the people as they carried it.
 

pickles

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What have I said that is untrue, you are calling me a liar, explain yourself as to what I have lied about, when you say 'your kind of truth' that is silly, there is only one truth, if I am not in accordance with that truth, then please explain exactly where I have lied, where? You are calling me a liar, so what is the lie? Tell me, answer the question.
Cup, I do not call you a lier. I know that you are honest about all that you believe.
You also know what we disagree about. The Holocost.
I see that you have worked and studied diligently about what you seek.
But I also see hatred towards certain peoples.
I agree we must hate evil and its acts. But you carry alot of hate towards people themselves and allow that to choose what you believe.
Because of your dedication, I respect your commitment to Jesus.
But you know I will not debate certain things that you dispute in history.
I do believe you have allot of knowladge, and I would very much like to learn from you.
But because of this difference, I must wait for Jesus to show you what is the truth.
I will pray that you will see his truth, and will pray that I also am not decieved.
We all need to trust in Jesus for this.
Again, I do see you doing great witnessing for Jesus , but you must set aside your hate first.
Always in the love of Jesus, God bless. pickles
 
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oopsies

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Cup, I do not call you a lier. I know that you are honest about all that you believe.
You also know what we disagree about. The Holocost.
I see that you have worked and studied diligently about what you seek.
But I also see hatred towards certain peoples.
I agree we must hate evil and its acts. But you carry alot of hate towards people themselves and allow that to choose what you believe.
Because of your dedication, I respect your commitment to Jesus.
But you know I will not debate certain things that you dispute in history.
I do believe you have allot of knowladge, and I would very much like to learn from you.
But because of this difference, I must wait for Jesus to show you what is the truth.
I will pray that you will see his truth, and will pray that I also am not decieved.
We all need to trust in Jesus for this.
Again, I do see you doing great witnessing for Jesus , but you must set aside your hate first.
Always in the love of Jesus, God bless. pickles
My goodness. I could never bring myself to write that. :eek:
 

pickles

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Here is what a true Christian today sounds like;

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=481

Destroying lies of Satan on a daily basis, not like pretend christians playing at church who sound like a broken beatles record; 'love, love me do, you know I love you', NO, I mean real Christians who are under constant persecution, surveillance, being dragged before masonic courts, jailed, beaten up, sometimes just murdered, I mean real Christians, not these fake ones, but real Christians. Would you even know what one is?
There are many kinds of suffering in Jesus. No one yet has taken my life for my faith, but they have threatened. I also do know pain and suffering.
Do not think that because I speak so much of love that I do not know persecution or suffering.
I have known these things all of my life.
I speak of the great love of Jesus because I know that it is that which keeps me going, careing, forgiving, it stops me from becoming bitter or hatefull. It is the very power of Jesus's love that gives me the streangth to get out of bed in the morning to live another day.
You dare to assume that because one speaks always of the love of Jesus that one does not suffer?
Or assume that one does not know those that have suffered as well .
The very fact that I speak of his love is testamony and witness to how great his love is.
All that know Jesus will witness to this.
Cup, I know you seek and learn what you do because your heart suffers with many and hates that any should suffer under the evils in others.
But to hate any person and judge them will only lead to bitterness and self destruction.
It will bring distance between you and Jesus.
I know...., I praise Our Lord Jesus for saving me from that fate.
But ones faith should never be mesured, it is or it is not.
And as christians we should thank Jesus ,that some will never know the pain or sorrow of persecution.
But never assume that ether one does not know suffering, or that because one dosnt, that they cannot have the heart to see and know in Jesus.
Also, the love of Jesus and his love learned is that which has saved us all, and it is that love that gives streangth to us that do suffer.
In the love of Jesus always, God bless. pickles
 
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miktre

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There are many kinds of suffering in Jesus. No one yet has taken my life for my faith, but they have threatened. I also do know pain and suffering.
Do not think that because I speak so much of love that I do not know persecution or suffering.
I have known these things all of my life.
I speak of the great love of Jesus because I know that it is that which keeps me going, careing, forgiving, it stops me from becoming bitter or hatefull. It is the very power of Jesus's love that gives me the streangth to get out of bed in the morning to live another day.
You dare to assume that because one speaks always of the love of Jesus that one does not suffer?
Or assume that one does not know those that have suffered as well .
The very fact that I speak of his love is testamony and witness to how great his love is.
All that know Jesus will witness to this.
Cup, I know you seek and learn what you do because your heart suffers with many and hates that any should suffer under the evils in others.
But to hate any person and judge them will only lead to bitterness and self destruction.
It will bring distance between you and Jesus.
I know...., I praise Our Lord Jesus for saving me from that fate.
But ones faith should never be mesured, it is or it is not.
And as christians we should thank Jesus ,that some will never know the pain or sorrow of persecution.
But never assume that ether one does not know suffering, or that because one dosnt, that they cannot have the heart to see and know in Jesus.
Also, the love of Jesus and his love learned is that which has saved us all, and it is that love that gives streangth to us that do suffer.
In the love of Jesus always, God bless. pickles
Education is the key, not hate.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNx1xa4lHtU[/video]
 
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greatkraw

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amazing, this dude does not know is own history

the refugee camps could have been disbanded decaddes ago but the UN and the arab nations would not allow it - too much propoganda value -
 
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miktre

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amazing, this dude does not know is own history

the refugee camps could have been disbanded decaddes ago but the UN and the arab nations would not allow it - too much propoganda value -
I think he might know quite a bit more than you, having a high rank in in the Israeli forces. The UN is to blame now? Are not they pro Israel? Think before you type. Seriously.
 
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its pretty obvious israel has commited war crimes, but nice to hear it from someone in the forces.
 
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I think he might know quite a bit more than you, having a high rank in in the Israeli forces. The UN is to blame now? Are not they pro Israel? Think before you type. Seriously.
Actually, according to that video clip, he's a former captain. Perhaps he is saying what he is saying in revenge?
 
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miktre

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Actually, according to that video clip, he's a former captain. Perhaps he is saying what he is saying in revenge?
You choose not to see the truth and will always come up with a reason not to believe it.
 
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oopsies

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You choose not to see the truth and will always come up with a reason not to believe it.
No, I choose to discern. To accept everything without thinking and analyzing it is dangerous. You might end up believing something wrong that Satan wants you to believe. But if you discern and make careful observations, you will be less prone to poor judgment.