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here is the dream i want, like i said i want to spend a day with jesus, my arms have been craving to wrap themselves around him and we would have fun and play together. at one point i can see us walking down a beach at sunset just talking. another he would show me people who are sad and alone, people who are without food and warmth and jesus and i would pray for them together. another point jesus and i would and drink together, food and drinks that do not exist on earth. another point i would sit at his feet and he would teach me things no one on earth could ever teach me. and who knows what else he has planned:]no matter what anyone says i feel god himself gave me this desire, and one day i am sure it will happen and i will never be the same
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Maggie:
We have to be careful quoting from Job because many of the chapters are Job's three friends speeking (Eliphaz the Temanite, and Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite,) (also Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite) speeks in the book of Job.
In Job 33 it is Elihu speeking and when he finished God asked Job this!
Job 38:1-2 (KJV)
1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
Speeking of Elihu! Who in the eyes of God had no knowledge.
Then we see what God thought of Job's three friend.
And his (God's) view of Job.
Job 42:7-8 (KJV)
7 And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.
8 Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job.
These other four men did not speek right of God as Job did.
So we can not quote these chapters as though they are what God spoke these were men speeking wrongly.
We can not say God said this or that quoting these four men.
So for you to make this statement....
"For God does speak—now one way, now another—
though no one perceives it."
and quote Jobe 33:15-18 as if it were God speeking is wrong. God did not say this, Elihu did.
We have to be careful quoting from Job because many of the chapters are Job's three friends speeking (Eliphaz the Temanite, and Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite,) (also Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite) speeks in the book of Job.
In Job 33 it is Elihu speeking and when he finished God asked Job this!
Job 38:1-2 (KJV)
1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
Speeking of Elihu! Who in the eyes of God had no knowledge.
Then we see what God thought of Job's three friend.
And his (God's) view of Job.
Job 42:7-8 (KJV)
7 And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.
8 Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job.
These other four men did not speek right of God as Job did.
So we can not quote these chapters as though they are what God spoke these were men speeking wrongly.
We can not say God said this or that quoting these four men.
So for you to make this statement....
"For God does speak—now one way, now another—
though no one perceives it."
and quote Jobe 33:15-18 as if it were God speeking is wrong. God did not say this, Elihu did.
G
Mark 8:12 (KJV)
12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.
Luke 11:29-30 (KJV)
29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
30 For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.
1 Corinthians 1:22 (KJV)
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
We do not want to temp God by seeking after a sign. Rather than seeking after God himself.
12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.
Luke 11:29-30 (KJV)
29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
30 For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.
1 Corinthians 1:22 (KJV)
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
We do not want to temp God by seeking after a sign. Rather than seeking after God himself.
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If you want to spend time with the LORD, Christ Jesus.
Start your day with prayer, even before getting out of bed. Spend time throughout your day reading his WORD. Talk and pray throughout your day to God. End your day in the WORD of God and prayer.
You can spend every day with the LORD if you so choose. Even at work you can spend time with the LORD. Just because you are at work or where ever you are does not mean you can not be with him.
Matthew 6:33 (KJV)
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
IF we will first seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness, everything else in life will be given to us.
You will be amazed at how the LORD comes to you throughout your day as ye first seek him. How he shows himself to you.
Yes we, faithful beleiving Christians will always desire to be in the phisical presense of the LORD, and that day will come, so long as we live as Christ.
So long as we do as we see here in Acts.
Acts 26:15-19 (KJV)
15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
We must turn from darkness (sin) if we want forgiveness of sin and wish to inherite the kingdom of God.
Start your day with prayer, even before getting out of bed. Spend time throughout your day reading his WORD. Talk and pray throughout your day to God. End your day in the WORD of God and prayer.
You can spend every day with the LORD if you so choose. Even at work you can spend time with the LORD. Just because you are at work or where ever you are does not mean you can not be with him.
Matthew 6:33 (KJV)
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
IF we will first seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness, everything else in life will be given to us.
You will be amazed at how the LORD comes to you throughout your day as ye first seek him. How he shows himself to you.
Yes we, faithful beleiving Christians will always desire to be in the phisical presense of the LORD, and that day will come, so long as we live as Christ.
So long as we do as we see here in Acts.
Acts 26:15-19 (KJV)
15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
We must turn from darkness (sin) if we want forgiveness of sin and wish to inherite the kingdom of God.
S
God's speaks to all in his own ways & time. If this is truly our God speaking to u , you will not be questioning if your dream came from him. Your obedience. to God & your willingness of faith will be your answer.. pray, listen &wait upon what God wants & not what u want, then u will have your answer ..hope that helps.
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1 Timothy 6:12-16
12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called and about which you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses. 13 I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who in his testimony before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, 14 to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which he will display at the proper time—He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen.
12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called and about which you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses. 13 I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who in his testimony before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, 14 to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which he will display at the proper time—He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen.
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twofeet;
If you are taking the kingdom by force you are of the wicked one, your father the devil.
John 8:44 (KJV)
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
The wicked have taken the kingdom by force.
Matthew 11:11-12 (KJV)
11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
The violent are wicked men.
A God fearing Christian does not take the kingdom of heaven by force it is given to them in love from God.
God is coming back to take back his kingdom from the wicked and give it to others (the righteous).
Luke 20:9-16 (KJV)
9 Then began he to speak to the people this parable; A certain man planted a vineyard, and let it forth to husbandmen, and went into a far country for a long time.
10 And at the season he sent a servant to the husbandmen, that they should give him of the fruit of the vineyard: but the husbandmen beat him, and sent him away empty.
11 And again he sent another servant: and they beat him also, and entreated him shamefully, and sent him away empty.
12 And again he sent a third: and they wounded him also, and cast him out.
13 Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son: it may be they will reverence him when they see him.
14 But when the husbandmen saw him, they reasoned among themselves, saying, This is the heir: come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be ours.
15 So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. What therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them?
16 He shall come and destroy these husbandmen, and shall give the vineyard to others. And when they heard it, they said, God forbid.
If you are taking the kingdom by force you are of the wicked one, your father the devil.
John 8:44 (KJV)
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
The wicked have taken the kingdom by force.
Matthew 11:11-12 (KJV)
11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
The violent are wicked men.
A God fearing Christian does not take the kingdom of heaven by force it is given to them in love from God.
God is coming back to take back his kingdom from the wicked and give it to others (the righteous).
Luke 20:9-16 (KJV)
9 Then began he to speak to the people this parable; A certain man planted a vineyard, and let it forth to husbandmen, and went into a far country for a long time.
10 And at the season he sent a servant to the husbandmen, that they should give him of the fruit of the vineyard: but the husbandmen beat him, and sent him away empty.
11 And again he sent another servant: and they beat him also, and entreated him shamefully, and sent him away empty.
12 And again he sent a third: and they wounded him also, and cast him out.
13 Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son: it may be they will reverence him when they see him.
14 But when the husbandmen saw him, they reasoned among themselves, saying, This is the heir: come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be ours.
15 So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. What therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them?
16 He shall come and destroy these husbandmen, and shall give the vineyard to others. And when they heard it, they said, God forbid.
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You know I believe that all those things will happen in Heaven or on the New Earth, not just in a dream but in reality as all who are so blessed to experience it will be present to see Jesus face to face.
However why do you want to know "things no one on earth could ever teach" you?
You do know Satan tempts many people with secret and hidden knowledge. The Enemy plays on pride. Just be careful ok?
I hope you are just referring to the wisdom that comes from Above as these verses say:
James 3:17
But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
however I believe that you can learn this kind of wisdom from the people on Earth who have walked with the Holy Spirit and have the fruits of Love, peace, joy, patience, kindness, and self control.
I believe everyone desires for the day when these scriptures are a reality:
However why do you want to know "things no one on earth could ever teach" you?
You do know Satan tempts many people with secret and hidden knowledge. The Enemy plays on pride. Just be careful ok?
I hope you are just referring to the wisdom that comes from Above as these verses say:
James 3:17
But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
however I believe that you can learn this kind of wisdom from the people on Earth who have walked with the Holy Spirit and have the fruits of Love, peace, joy, patience, kindness, and self control.
I believe everyone desires for the day when these scriptures are a reality:
G
That's a great thing to want, the Lord leads !
Just curious, why do you need that kind of sign, books is correct, there is danger in wanting something from God, we should allow God to work His dreams through us, in His timing, for His needs, His purposes, we are called for His purposes (Romans 8:28), not the other way around.
What twofeets said was good too. WE never want to squelch the Spirit in us working and God puts desires on our heart and I do not say this lightly,and, I do NOT say it judgmentally.....
You have said on here, blainers, words to me that speak of a great desire by you to serve God, in a GREAT sacrificial way, need i not go into detail, but YOU FOLLOW Him.
Yes, test the spirits that come in dreams, visions, in person, I have NEVER had a demon I know of around, in me, I know I did use to here like weird voices when I was 15 when my parents were fighting and I was not the best at handling my frustrations, the Lord leads, and, IF we are doing WRONG things, then the Enemy CAN send voices into our heads, do things unto our body. But, IF we stay strong in Him, praying ceaselesslly for His pleasures to come to our life and NO other then the Enemy cannot be taking you. YOU ARE taken !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world
When you are in His hand, you cannot be plucked from it, Scripture states, Christbro.
YOU just keep on following Him, do not think you have to do more than He wants you to do, Rome was not built in a day, make your mission of life continue on His journey for you and just not sure why you would want to have Jesus visit in a dream, you are not a 'doubting Thomas,' are you, for it is better to believe and not having to SEE Him blainers, brother. But, we ALL have signs, at times, in life, or, I think most do, it is human nature to mess up and NEED a Saviour.
We ALL need a Saviour, I think we can agree on that .
Keep on keeping on following Him, His way for you, for He knows your 'great' plans, which may be small or great, in size, but whatever He gives you, ACCEPT that way, walk, run, stop, crawl, as He moves you.....
The Lord leads
'Follow Me.' John 21:22
Just curious, why do you need that kind of sign, books is correct, there is danger in wanting something from God, we should allow God to work His dreams through us, in His timing, for His needs, His purposes, we are called for His purposes (Romans 8:28), not the other way around.
What twofeets said was good too. WE never want to squelch the Spirit in us working and God puts desires on our heart and I do not say this lightly,and, I do NOT say it judgmentally.....
You have said on here, blainers, words to me that speak of a great desire by you to serve God, in a GREAT sacrificial way, need i not go into detail, but YOU FOLLOW Him.
Yes, test the spirits that come in dreams, visions, in person, I have NEVER had a demon I know of around, in me, I know I did use to here like weird voices when I was 15 when my parents were fighting and I was not the best at handling my frustrations, the Lord leads, and, IF we are doing WRONG things, then the Enemy CAN send voices into our heads, do things unto our body. But, IF we stay strong in Him, praying ceaselesslly for His pleasures to come to our life and NO other then the Enemy cannot be taking you. YOU ARE taken !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world When you are in His hand, you cannot be plucked from it, Scripture states, Christbro.
YOU just keep on following Him, do not think you have to do more than He wants you to do, Rome was not built in a day, make your mission of life continue on His journey for you and just not sure why you would want to have Jesus visit in a dream, you are not a 'doubting Thomas,' are you, for it is better to believe and not having to SEE Him blainers, brother. But, we ALL have signs, at times, in life, or, I think most do, it is human nature to mess up and NEED a Saviour.
We ALL need a Saviour, I think we can agree on that .
Keep on keeping on following Him, His way for you, for He knows your 'great' plans, which may be small or great, in size, but whatever He gives you, ACCEPT that way, walk, run, stop, crawl, as He moves you.....
The Lord leads
'Follow Me.' John 21:22
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This is a sign. Like it or not, it is blainers, and, it is 'God's desire in your heart,' you say, in so many close words, great, YOU FOLLOW HIM
anyway, I am not judging you, you know that, I love you, Christbro. We should all know that when we condemn other brothers and sisters serving Christ as best they can, His perfect that He's placed in them, teaching them at His pace, then, IF we cause them to stumble, we not only might as well 'tie a millstone around our neck,' and, that's for 'children' and 'the least of these,' for those legalists out there, but we CONDEMN OURSELF when we judge others.
God did NOT come to earth to condemn anyone, not the SAVED of their sinning, and, NOT the unbelievers either, believe it or not !! He came in love, came peacefully but was with too stirring things up for THOSE WHO CONDEMNED Him, tried to catch Him in lies, like the PHARASEES, those are the folks that Jesus got upset at but NEVER did He condemn them either
God is love
anyway, I am not judging you, you know that, I love you, Christbro. We should all know that when we condemn other brothers and sisters serving Christ as best they can, His perfect that He's placed in them, teaching them at His pace, then, IF we cause them to stumble, we not only might as well 'tie a millstone around our neck,' and, that's for 'children' and 'the least of these,' for those legalists out there, but we CONDEMN OURSELF when we judge others.
God did NOT come to earth to condemn anyone, not the SAVED of their sinning, and, NOT the unbelievers either, believe it or not !!
He came in love, came peacefully but was with too stirring things up for THOSE WHO CONDEMNED Him, tried to catch Him in lies, like the PHARASEES, those are the folks that Jesus got upset at but NEVER did He condemn them either God is love
M
Blain: "well the dream i want is to just spend a day with Jesus and it didn't happen so the vision wasn't from god. i did have scripture pop up in my mind hod the devil will come disguised as an angel of light so in my mind i did have my doubts"
You want to spend a day with the Lord? Who is stopping you?? It is YOUR will to do so and it is Always His will to do so too!! But He is ALWAYS there, waiting upon you. So it is YOU that must take the initiative: Spend time in worship, then time in His Word, time in Prayer and then worship some more and read some more. TALK to Him as the Father that He is. THAT is spending a day with the Lord....and fasting when you do this is an awesome way to clean your spiritual senses so that you can become more in tune with His and who He is and who you are in Christ.
Maggie
You want to spend a day with the Lord? Who is stopping you?? It is YOUR will to do so and it is Always His will to do so too!! But He is ALWAYS there, waiting upon you. So it is YOU that must take the initiative: Spend time in worship, then time in His Word, time in Prayer and then worship some more and read some more. TALK to Him as the Father that He is. THAT is spending a day with the Lord....and fasting when you do this is an awesome way to clean your spiritual senses so that you can become more in tune with His and who He is and who you are in Christ.
Maggie
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You traveling down a very bad and dangerous spiritual path. The wrong spiritual force could get ahold
of your mind and warp it up. You need to be seeking spiritual gifts, for working, and not for some
vision that may or may not be from God. Or a dream that may be due to what you ate.
Now, let me tell you something. I've read your many posts and there seems to be a theme that
surfaces a lot. It is, "I want this, and I want it NOW." You need to learn patience and grow spiritually.
If you let these desires for visions and such, get under your skin, the devil will get you some info, that
will look good, but will slowly lead you off the path. He knows how to bait a hook and he knows
what bait to use.
of your mind and warp it up. You need to be seeking spiritual gifts, for working, and not for some
vision that may or may not be from God. Or a dream that may be due to what you ate.
Now, let me tell you something. I've read your many posts and there seems to be a theme that
surfaces a lot. It is, "I want this, and I want it NOW." You need to learn patience and grow spiritually.
If you let these desires for visions and such, get under your skin, the devil will get you some info, that
will look good, but will slowly lead you off the path. He knows how to bait a hook and he knows
what bait to use.
I am grateful for everyones help, but honestly all this talk about it being a trick and a dangerous spiritual path and such just confuses me. wether the dream happens or not i have left that up to god,so can we just drop it now i can't handle all of this confusion. i know everyone means well though and i know patience is hard for me but i am still new to this after all. But according to a few people god has called me to be a prophet, i recently heard that anyone can have the spiritual gift of prophesy but i don't know if that is correct. before i was a christian god sent me a vision he sent me a few more when i became a christian then there is the fact i see things with what i call my spiritual eye. heck when i go on walks alot of times i will look into the sky and see a cross made of light and its huge. now i don't know if this is just my imagination or if god is showing me something but its amazing,
B
Do not give up hope. I find that whenever the enemy is picking on me actively it means God is about to do something big. It could be anything from correction to growth.
So remember...
1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Just be available and let God do the rest.
Blooming_Violet
So remember...
1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Just be available and let God do the rest.
Blooming_Violet