Something to think about:
Can you Sin and Not Die?
“You will not surely die!” Satan, Gen3:4
Most Professing Christians today Do Not Believe that if they Live according to their fleshly desires they will die Spiritually. For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live Rom8:13
The reasons for this vary, among them are:
Substitution, Moral Transfer, Pre-forgiveness of sin & Eternal Security. But Regardless:
The Constant among Professing Christians is to argue in favor of sin, by trusting in the above fallacies and mimicking the common excuses that:
‘We’re Born in Sin, Saved in Sin and Can Never Stop Sinning, because no one can be as Perfect as God’
When told they Must get clear of their wrong doings in the process of Repentance BEFORE God will pardon them or grant His Holy Spirit to indwell their soul, they always retreat to the adage: “If we could stop sinning we wouldn’t need Jesus and could save ourselves!”
However, as someone once said; “Neither can they Stop sinner AFTER they have Jesus!”
Let’s Clarify what kinds of Sin we are talking about here. What is it you Must STOP doing to inherit the Kingdom?
The collective opinion is NOTHING, only UNBELIEF will keep you out of the Kingdom. Therefore such vile behavior as listed below are widespread among professed Christians:
1Cor6:9-10, Gal5:19-21, Eph5:5-7,
Fornication, idolatry (double-mined love of world), adultery, homosexuality, thieves, covetousness, drunkards, foul mouthed, murder, hatred, contention, Jealously, outburst of anger, selfish ambition, dissensions, heresy, uncleanness, filthiness, coarse jesting and foolish talking. Add to this: Mass complacency, obstinate, outright rebellion to God’s authority, Disobedience to the Lord’s Commands, total Disregard of Bible Truth!
Under the Common Sin, Repent, Sin Repent Model of 1John1:8-9, anything goes and all is forgiven. If anyone claims they do not commit such sins unto death, they are Purified in heart & mind, walking Obediently, Doing what is Right by faith working by love, they are immediately called a LIAR, Self Righteous hypocrite, angry Judge, Lost.
But this is from People who think:
They are Born and Saved in Sin that all Sins are the same & No One can ever Stop Sinning. Strike Four!
Digging themselves out of this Deception is almost impossible. That’s why it’s called: Strong Delusion.
In the Bible we find MANY ‘Righteous’ Saints, Pure before God:
Paul Acts24:16 This being so, I myself always strive to have a conscience without offense toward God and men.
Again 2Tim5:7 I thank God, whom I serve with a pure conscience, as my forefathers did, as without ceasing I remember you in my prayers night and day,
More: 1Thes2:10 You are witnesses, and God also, how devoutly and justly and blamelessly we behaved ourselves among you who believe;
Heb13:18 Pray for us; for we are confident that we have a good conscience, in all things desiring to live honorably.
2Thes2:9 but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us. 1Cor11:1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.
Luke1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
The OT Testifies of Many Righteous Saints from Moses to Job, Daniel, Noah (Ezk14:14, Dan6:22) The Righteous people warned in Ezk18, The Righteous in Contrast to the Wicked all through Proverbs and Psalms. DOING what is Right by Faith is EXACTLY what the Truly Saved will do! Because those who sin are of the devil 1Jh3:8 & Are SLAVES to sin! Jh8:34
If a Person has NOT laid aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness and received with meekness the implanted Word (that is able to save your soul!) he is NOT a Christian! (Js1:21) The Very Purpose of the Commandment Christ Delivered is ‘Purity, Sincerity and Love!’ 1Tim1:5, based on Matt22:37-40 Lord’s own Words! If the Faith you claim to have in Jesus has not Truly PURIFIED your heart of Lust (flesh, eye, pride of life) you’re DECEIVED!
The Charge of Sinless Perfection (of which every Saint sited above would be guilty of today)
Anyone who promotes this kind of Devotion, loyalty and Purity of heart before God is instantly charged with Preaching ‘Sinless Perfection’ and branded a hypocrite, accused of all manner of vile things.
If abstaining from the vile sins we are discussing here is being as Perfect as God then we can offer you no further explanation but such as we have from Bible Scripture ….. Which of course you will counter with:
The Filthy Rags of Isa64:6, Desperately wicked heart of Jer17:9-10, Romans Wretch of Rom7:14 and Chief of Sinners of 1Tim1:15 …(not to mention also 1Jh:8 and a few select passages from the OT)
Let me try and be honest with you here and appeal to your sense of reason. NO ONE can be or is Required to be as PERFECT as GOD in the Bible. We are required to ‘Go and Sin no More!’ Jh5:14, 8:11. Although we will NEVER:
Be Perfect in Knowledge, Free from Ignorance, Free from defects, Mistakes in Judgment, Or infirmity of the flesh.
HOWEVER can Indeed ‘Be Perfect as your heavenly Father is Perfect’ Mt5:48, BY:
Obedience to the Truth, 1Pet1:22, Walking in the Spirit, Rom8:1-4, Perfecting Holiness, 2Cor7:1, Holding fast in full confidence, Steadfast to the end, Heb3:3,14, Hungering & Thirsting after Righteousness, Mt5:6, Fearing and loving God & Hating Sin, Prov8:13, Ps97:10, Abstaining from every appearance of evil, 1Thes5:22, Keeping yourself Pure, 1Jh3:3, 5:18, 1Tim5:22, Keeping the body under, 1Cor9:27, Choosing to Do Good! Isa1:16-17
NOW be honest with me (if you will) DOES any of this Sound even remotely like what you believe and are being taught in the Churches about sinning daily in thought, word and deed? Is it EARNING your Salvation, Legalist Works, Self Justification, to OBEY God as directed above and abstain from Fleshly Lust? WHY Claim to have Repented of anything or even Have the Holy Spirit if you Cannot STOP Lust of flesh, eye & Pride? 1Jh2:15-16
Nearly everyone today says they cannot Stop sinning until they have Received Jesus to help them. IF that is True WHY Does the Sin NEVER STOP And the Clean Up NEVER Happens! You think that falling into Fornications, Drunkenness, adultery, perversions, uncleanness and filthiness of the flesh are just Mistakes God will forgive if you apologize, but never completely forsake. (since no one can according to the excuses)
Therefore we Must Part Ways with the ‘no one is Perfect’ crowd because to them ‘all sin is the same’
Filthiness, Uncleanness, fornication, Drunkenness is equal to a Mistake in Judgment or Wrong Decision, so in their eyes BY NECESSITY we MUST be Liars and filthy minded sinners …. Just like them. Sins of the Lust and uncleanness will Not Keep them OUT of the Kingdom, they can SIN AND NOT DIE, so their preachers have told them, because Jesus was their Moral & Perfect Substitute and Obeyed in their place to Pre-forgive their sins. It sounds to me like Satan has their ear Gen3:4, Not God ‘Depart from Iniquity’ 2Tim2:19
The Proverbs Constantly tell us that a Person who hates instruction, knowledge, reproof, is wicked and Stupid. Paul said a time would come when People would no longer endure Sound Doctrine that promotes godly behavior and reproves sinners. (2Tim4:2-5) The Prophets warned of a time when people would call good evil and evil good Isa5:20. Such is what we see today among the Professed, to them abstaining from Vile sins of the flesh is being 100% Sinless and Unbelief is the ONLY Sin God will Judge to Hell!
www.standingthegap.org
Can you Sin and Not Die?
“You will not surely die!” Satan, Gen3:4
Most Professing Christians today Do Not Believe that if they Live according to their fleshly desires they will die Spiritually. For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live Rom8:13
The reasons for this vary, among them are:
Substitution, Moral Transfer, Pre-forgiveness of sin & Eternal Security. But Regardless:
The Constant among Professing Christians is to argue in favor of sin, by trusting in the above fallacies and mimicking the common excuses that:
‘We’re Born in Sin, Saved in Sin and Can Never Stop Sinning, because no one can be as Perfect as God’
When told they Must get clear of their wrong doings in the process of Repentance BEFORE God will pardon them or grant His Holy Spirit to indwell their soul, they always retreat to the adage: “If we could stop sinning we wouldn’t need Jesus and could save ourselves!”
However, as someone once said; “Neither can they Stop sinner AFTER they have Jesus!”
Let’s Clarify what kinds of Sin we are talking about here. What is it you Must STOP doing to inherit the Kingdom?
The collective opinion is NOTHING, only UNBELIEF will keep you out of the Kingdom. Therefore such vile behavior as listed below are widespread among professed Christians:
1Cor6:9-10, Gal5:19-21, Eph5:5-7,
Fornication, idolatry (double-mined love of world), adultery, homosexuality, thieves, covetousness, drunkards, foul mouthed, murder, hatred, contention, Jealously, outburst of anger, selfish ambition, dissensions, heresy, uncleanness, filthiness, coarse jesting and foolish talking. Add to this: Mass complacency, obstinate, outright rebellion to God’s authority, Disobedience to the Lord’s Commands, total Disregard of Bible Truth!
Under the Common Sin, Repent, Sin Repent Model of 1John1:8-9, anything goes and all is forgiven. If anyone claims they do not commit such sins unto death, they are Purified in heart & mind, walking Obediently, Doing what is Right by faith working by love, they are immediately called a LIAR, Self Righteous hypocrite, angry Judge, Lost.
But this is from People who think:
They are Born and Saved in Sin that all Sins are the same & No One can ever Stop Sinning. Strike Four!
Digging themselves out of this Deception is almost impossible. That’s why it’s called: Strong Delusion.
In the Bible we find MANY ‘Righteous’ Saints, Pure before God:
Paul Acts24:16 This being so, I myself always strive to have a conscience without offense toward God and men.
Again 2Tim5:7 I thank God, whom I serve with a pure conscience, as my forefathers did, as without ceasing I remember you in my prayers night and day,
More: 1Thes2:10 You are witnesses, and God also, how devoutly and justly and blamelessly we behaved ourselves among you who believe;
Heb13:18 Pray for us; for we are confident that we have a good conscience, in all things desiring to live honorably.
2Thes2:9 but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us. 1Cor11:1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.
Luke1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
The OT Testifies of Many Righteous Saints from Moses to Job, Daniel, Noah (Ezk14:14, Dan6:22) The Righteous people warned in Ezk18, The Righteous in Contrast to the Wicked all through Proverbs and Psalms. DOING what is Right by Faith is EXACTLY what the Truly Saved will do! Because those who sin are of the devil 1Jh3:8 & Are SLAVES to sin! Jh8:34
If a Person has NOT laid aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness and received with meekness the implanted Word (that is able to save your soul!) he is NOT a Christian! (Js1:21) The Very Purpose of the Commandment Christ Delivered is ‘Purity, Sincerity and Love!’ 1Tim1:5, based on Matt22:37-40 Lord’s own Words! If the Faith you claim to have in Jesus has not Truly PURIFIED your heart of Lust (flesh, eye, pride of life) you’re DECEIVED!
The Charge of Sinless Perfection (of which every Saint sited above would be guilty of today)
Anyone who promotes this kind of Devotion, loyalty and Purity of heart before God is instantly charged with Preaching ‘Sinless Perfection’ and branded a hypocrite, accused of all manner of vile things.
If abstaining from the vile sins we are discussing here is being as Perfect as God then we can offer you no further explanation but such as we have from Bible Scripture ….. Which of course you will counter with:
The Filthy Rags of Isa64:6, Desperately wicked heart of Jer17:9-10, Romans Wretch of Rom7:14 and Chief of Sinners of 1Tim1:15 …(not to mention also 1Jh:8 and a few select passages from the OT)
Let me try and be honest with you here and appeal to your sense of reason. NO ONE can be or is Required to be as PERFECT as GOD in the Bible. We are required to ‘Go and Sin no More!’ Jh5:14, 8:11. Although we will NEVER:
Be Perfect in Knowledge, Free from Ignorance, Free from defects, Mistakes in Judgment, Or infirmity of the flesh.
HOWEVER can Indeed ‘Be Perfect as your heavenly Father is Perfect’ Mt5:48, BY:
Obedience to the Truth, 1Pet1:22, Walking in the Spirit, Rom8:1-4, Perfecting Holiness, 2Cor7:1, Holding fast in full confidence, Steadfast to the end, Heb3:3,14, Hungering & Thirsting after Righteousness, Mt5:6, Fearing and loving God & Hating Sin, Prov8:13, Ps97:10, Abstaining from every appearance of evil, 1Thes5:22, Keeping yourself Pure, 1Jh3:3, 5:18, 1Tim5:22, Keeping the body under, 1Cor9:27, Choosing to Do Good! Isa1:16-17
NOW be honest with me (if you will) DOES any of this Sound even remotely like what you believe and are being taught in the Churches about sinning daily in thought, word and deed? Is it EARNING your Salvation, Legalist Works, Self Justification, to OBEY God as directed above and abstain from Fleshly Lust? WHY Claim to have Repented of anything or even Have the Holy Spirit if you Cannot STOP Lust of flesh, eye & Pride? 1Jh2:15-16
Nearly everyone today says they cannot Stop sinning until they have Received Jesus to help them. IF that is True WHY Does the Sin NEVER STOP And the Clean Up NEVER Happens! You think that falling into Fornications, Drunkenness, adultery, perversions, uncleanness and filthiness of the flesh are just Mistakes God will forgive if you apologize, but never completely forsake. (since no one can according to the excuses)
Therefore we Must Part Ways with the ‘no one is Perfect’ crowd because to them ‘all sin is the same’
Filthiness, Uncleanness, fornication, Drunkenness is equal to a Mistake in Judgment or Wrong Decision, so in their eyes BY NECESSITY we MUST be Liars and filthy minded sinners …. Just like them. Sins of the Lust and uncleanness will Not Keep them OUT of the Kingdom, they can SIN AND NOT DIE, so their preachers have told them, because Jesus was their Moral & Perfect Substitute and Obeyed in their place to Pre-forgive their sins. It sounds to me like Satan has their ear Gen3:4, Not God ‘Depart from Iniquity’ 2Tim2:19
The Proverbs Constantly tell us that a Person who hates instruction, knowledge, reproof, is wicked and Stupid. Paul said a time would come when People would no longer endure Sound Doctrine that promotes godly behavior and reproves sinners. (2Tim4:2-5) The Prophets warned of a time when people would call good evil and evil good Isa5:20. Such is what we see today among the Professed, to them abstaining from Vile sins of the flesh is being 100% Sinless and Unbelief is the ONLY Sin God will Judge to Hell!
www.standingthegap.org