6000 years and the distance of Stars
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If i tell you the Truth, will you believe it? Nevertheless i will tell you the TRUTH.
The 3rd Heaven, which is what we humans call Space, or the Universe, existed prior to the Earth ever being created. The Earth was created in 7 days exactly as God said He did in Scriptures. The Bible and the creation Story is solely for the Creation of the planet Earth, and the inhabitant thereof. Our Bible does not tell the Story about the Universe (3rd Heaven) and how it was created, nor when it was created. When you look up into the night sky, you are looking at a very small fraction of the Kingdom of Heaven. The Kingdom of Heaven existed for eons times eons times eons times eons, before the Earth was ever even thought of. It was only AFTER satan rebelled in the Kingdom of Heaven, that there was a need to create the Earth to confine satan and his followers there, preventing them from leaving the confines of their prison, which we humans call Earth. We humans are being tested to see who we will choose to serve, we are put into human flesh, even as Jesus came down in human flesh, and we are tested to see who we will choose to obey and follow and believe.
Tell me. If a Scientist were to have examined the Wine that Jesus made out of water that was seconds old, how old would the Scientist say the wine MUST BE? Another Question the Fish that seem to appear out of thin air, how old do you think those fish were, that was created in a mere second? How long does it take to make bread? Tell me, the Bread that Jesus made that was seconds old and seem to appear spontaneously, if that bread were examined by the scholars and scientists, how old would they say, that bread is, when in reality it is seconds old? Tell me, can God make a full grown Tree appear from nothing? Answer? Now tell me, if God makes a full grown tree. "pooof" there it is, and you cut it down and it has 200 rings in it, how old would the scientists say the tree MUST BE? When God just created it in a second.
Could God create a Planet in a day that appears to be millions of years old? Sure He can, and He did. Did He not create Man? Tell me, how old after 5 minutes of being created, would scientists say that MAN is? Was Adam created an infant? was he created a boy? Or was He created as a MAN in a matter of seconds, or minutes? How is it this generation can't understand these things?
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
The 3rd Heaven, which is what we humans call Space, or the Universe, existed prior to the Earth ever being created. The Earth was created in 7 days exactly as God said He did in Scriptures. The Bible and the creation Story is solely for the Creation of the planet Earth, and the inhabitant thereof. Our Bible does not tell the Story about the Universe (3rd Heaven) and how it was created, nor when it was created. When you look up into the night sky, you are looking at a very small fraction of the Kingdom of Heaven. The Kingdom of Heaven existed for eons times eons times eons times eons, before the Earth was ever even thought of. It was only AFTER satan rebelled in the Kingdom of Heaven, that there was a need to create the Earth to confine satan and his followers there, preventing them from leaving the confines of their prison, which we humans call Earth. We humans are being tested to see who we will choose to serve, we are put into human flesh, even as Jesus came down in human flesh, and we are tested to see who we will choose to obey and follow and believe.
Tell me. If a Scientist were to have examined the Wine that Jesus made out of water that was seconds old, how old would the Scientist say the wine MUST BE? Another Question the Fish that seem to appear out of thin air, how old do you think those fish were, that was created in a mere second? How long does it take to make bread? Tell me, the Bread that Jesus made that was seconds old and seem to appear spontaneously, if that bread were examined by the scholars and scientists, how old would they say, that bread is, when in reality it is seconds old? Tell me, can God make a full grown Tree appear from nothing? Answer? Now tell me, if God makes a full grown tree. "pooof" there it is, and you cut it down and it has 200 rings in it, how old would the scientists say the tree MUST BE? When God just created it in a second.
Could God create a Planet in a day that appears to be millions of years old? Sure He can, and He did. Did He not create Man? Tell me, how old after 5 minutes of being created, would scientists say that MAN is? Was Adam created an infant? was he created a boy? Or was He created as a MAN in a matter of seconds, or minutes? How is it this generation can't understand these things?
^i^
††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
The earth is more than 6,000 years old, but definitely not more than 15,000. Yet mankind says that dinosaurs lived billions of years before humans. The Bible says to let every man be a liar and God be right. Just because we don't know how something is possible, doesn't mean it's impossible.
Once they tried to trap Jesus in His words- if He answered yes, He'd be stuck, and if He answered no, He'd be stuck. But He answered "Those of you who have never sinned may throw the first stone." God is not trapped by mankind's understanding, or lack thereof. But on our part, without faith it is impossible to please God.
In the Old Testament they thought they could build a tower tall enough to reach God's throne. Their lack of understanding the details of why that wouldn't work, was not the subject. The subject was that they were disobeying God- Who said to spead out and cover the earth with humans- not stay in one spot and make a name for themselves (yet).
It is a dangerous thing to let your faith be violated just because you don't understand details of how God does something- like the stars. Recognize this- if there is only physicality, why do right and wrong exist? You must at the very least recognize that good and evil do exist, and therefore God and Satan exist.
Once they tried to trap Jesus in His words- if He answered yes, He'd be stuck, and if He answered no, He'd be stuck. But He answered "Those of you who have never sinned may throw the first stone." God is not trapped by mankind's understanding, or lack thereof. But on our part, without faith it is impossible to please God.
In the Old Testament they thought they could build a tower tall enough to reach God's throne. Their lack of understanding the details of why that wouldn't work, was not the subject. The subject was that they were disobeying God- Who said to spead out and cover the earth with humans- not stay in one spot and make a name for themselves (yet).
It is a dangerous thing to let your faith be violated just because you don't understand details of how God does something- like the stars. Recognize this- if there is only physicality, why do right and wrong exist? You must at the very least recognize that good and evil do exist, and therefore God and Satan exist.
The universe is much older, and so is the earth. No where does the bible say or even hint that the earth is 6000 years old. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth". When was the beginning? No time table is assigned. Millions or billions of years may have passed after Genesis 1:1 and day one when God began to form the earth.
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IMO rather needing billions of years or needing just days or just all of creation in just One mere breath, either way is a correct answer for God moves in either direction of time and space, to say just 6 days would just as easily be restricting God.
the teaching of creation IMO wasn't so much for those of old knowledge but of new knowledge gained today and a willingness to reach for it. Though no one is forced to come out of the caves to learn, it's a personal choice in thinking a few billion or a few days or one breath. though at some point it is healthy for the mind to come out of the caves for knowledge growth.
A true story a Japanese soldier in WW2 remained hidden in a cave on a remote island for over 30 years after the World War 2 had ended why because of fear he wouldn't allow his mind to think other whys. He had chained, shackled his thoughts.
the teaching of creation IMO wasn't so much for those of old knowledge but of new knowledge gained today and a willingness to reach for it. Though no one is forced to come out of the caves to learn, it's a personal choice in thinking a few billion or a few days or one breath. though at some point it is healthy for the mind to come out of the caves for knowledge growth.
A true story a Japanese soldier in WW2 remained hidden in a cave on a remote island for over 30 years after the World War 2 had ended why because of fear he wouldn't allow his mind to think other whys. He had chained, shackled his thoughts.
D
Noah and family were on that ark for 13 months. The earth was completely flooded for 9 of those months. Land vegetation can no more survive 9 months under water than land animals. And yet, a dove brought back a live olive tree branch. How did that happen except by a miracle from God?
How did the universe come to be but through a miracle of God?
What's the impossible to God?
How did the universe come to be but through a miracle of God?
What's the impossible to God?
D
In nonfiction as well as fiction, when a new term is used it is also defined. The term in the Bible was "day." The definition was immediately given.
Gen. 1:[FONT="]3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.[/FONT][FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness.[/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.[/FONT]
So, reinventing the wheel into a hodge podge of excuses culminating in part cone and part rectangle hits -- NO WAY, DUDE!
Gen. 1:[FONT="]3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.[/FONT][FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness.[/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.[/FONT]
So, reinventing the wheel into a hodge podge of excuses culminating in part cone and part rectangle hits -- NO WAY, DUDE!
D
You're 52 years old, for Pete's sake. How many times has the age of the earth been changed in your lifetime by these same "scientists" you trust so much now? I remember when it was only a few million years old and the universe was much, much younger than it is now. (And the difference has nothing to do with the piddly extra years I've gained. lol)
Want some land directly east of Atlantic City I'm selling? I like gullible.
Want some land directly east of Atlantic City I'm selling? I like gullible.
B
I've always found the redundancy in those and these verses interesting, IMO a ancient mind that was not quite sure what was being said though he only had his own language and knowledge to go by, honorably stated and just by the writer, though quite the fitting purpose for future minds to grasp not much different than the ancient, may take a few more decades or longer to open..
{1:18} And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness.
{1:16} And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [he made] the stars also.
{1:17} And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
{1:14} And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;
{1:5} And God called Day the light, and the Night he called darkness.
{1:18} And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness.
{1:16} And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [he made] the stars also.
{1:17} And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
{1:14} And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;
{1:5} And God called Day the light, and the Night he called darkness.
D
Since you are completely convinced that yours is the correct view, I see no further point in attempting to share with you an alternate view. Personally, I'm glad that God gave the seventh yom as a period of rest, and meant approximately 24 hours. If you want to work for six billion years before you rest, go right ahead. 