666 Mark of Beast A non-left behind/dispensational/Hal Lindsey perspective

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Elizabeth619

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Since this thread has gone far fetched I am gonna make it worse.

Has anyone thought about something that most of not all of us have? Not only America but I am assuming other countries have this too.

With this the government can:
Track you.
Check your credit records
Track youCriminal records
Check your employment status
It is required to open up most bank accounts
It is required for driving
It is required for school records
It is required for about everything.

It is called a Social Security Number.

And contrary to popular belief, you are NOT required to have one. I happen to know many Americans who don't have one.
To those who have a SSN you are actually required to have it on you at all times. Wouldn't that be a visible "mark"?
 
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Yeah but hard times are coming. Wars, Hunger, Sickness, Power Outages

So you will have to get on the new grid and the only way on is this chip “ MARK “
 
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Wow

I always thought of the people (6) By the people (6) for the people (6) was pretty interesting. Didn't Jesus say all things were of him by him and for him ? sounds kind of anti- Christ to me.
 

Elizabeth619

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Yeah but hard times are coming. Wars, Hunger, Sickness, Power Outages

So you will have to get on the new grid and the only way on is this chip “ MARK “
These things have been happening for years. As I have said many many times.
 

Elizabeth619

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Here is an interesting read on the "mark"


The Beast’s "Mark"
The Greek word used for "mark" is charagma. It was the technical term for the Roman imperial stamp that appeared on various documents. The charagma was a seal stamped with the name and date of the emperor and attached to commercial documents. Apparently, it also stood for the emperor’s head stamped on coins. Thus, the charagma represented the likeness or name of the emperor.

The charagma was also a type of brand. In Roman times, disobedient slaves were often branded with marks of ownership, much like cattle are today. Religious tattooing was also widespread. Soldiers had a custom of branding themselves with the name of a favorite general. Devotees of a god labeled themselves with tattoos to designate their loyal devotion.

However, we should be careful about looking for some ancient practice of "marking" and thinking that this is what will happen in the future. John was writing to real people in the first-century church, not some "end-time" church, and his message applied to them. Whatever the "mark" was, it conveyed something they could understand.

What point was John trying to get across when he was speaking of a "mark"? The mark is probably not meant to be something visible to the eye, as was the Nazi practice of tattooing numbers on concentration camp inmates. Nor should we assume it to be an identity card of some kind, like a Social Security or credit card.

More likely, the mark is a symbol. It is something that identifies who belongs to the beast – or to God. There is an Old Testament parallel in Ezekiel on which Revelation draws. John’s readers would have readily understood the point he was making. In vision, Ezekiel saw a man with a writing kit at his side. He heard the Lord say to the man, "Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it" (Ezekiel 9:4). Here are people who are "marked" for protection.

In like manner, Israel was "marked" by blood smeared on the doorposts of their homes. On the eve of the Exodus, the death angel swept through Egypt, killing the firstborn. He passed over any door marked with blood (Exodus 12:21-23). This mark was merely a symbol, as the angel would have been quite able to distinguish between an Israelite and Egyptian.

Earlier in Revelation we read of the 144,000 servants of God who were sealed on their foreheads with "the seal [sphragis] of the living God" (7:2). They were also to be protected from the plagues that would devastate the earth (7:3). Those not having the seal were afforded no protection (9:4).

The "mark of the beast" is a counterpart to the sealing of the faithful people of God. The beast will attempt to identify and protect his people (and destroy his enemies) even as God knows and protects those who are his people.

How does the beast know who are his own? Simple: they are all willing to worship him and his image. Their worship is the mark by which they are identified! Those who refuse to worship will be exposed by their refusal to perform the act of idolatrous obeisance. Their steadfast loyalty to God, however, will be the evidence that they carry the seal of God. The "mark" of the beast is not visible writing, just as the "seal" of God’s servants is not done in writing. It is the behavior of the person that indicates where the person’s allegiance is.

Of course, the refusal to worship the beast will bring serious personal and economic consequences for the people of God. That’s because, "No one could buy or sell unless he had the mark" (13:17). Those who do not worship the beast are not allowed to participate in the economic life of the community.

The false political and religious system wields tight economic control over those whom it dominates. No one is exempt from this harsh economic repression. Whether small, great, rich, poor, free, or slave – all must comply (3:16-17). Individuals who refuse to serve the beast are not allowed to carry out the smallest economic transactions. This has always been a favorite way by which governments and authorities shut out undesirables from the system. They don’t allow them to participate in the benefits of the economy in one way or another.

That means they cannot buy food, obtain shelter, clothing or receive medical help. This implies starvation, exposure and death for those who do not worship the beast.
 

Elizabeth619

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I am also going to add for those who believe Revelation was fulfilled in the 1st century:

*Nero was the Roman emperor of that time.
*He reigned from 54AD to 68 AD.
* Under gematria, in which numbers are assigned to letters, 666 is the sum of the numbers of the name Nero Caesar (NRWN QSR) in Hebrew.


Nero actually equals to 666. Interesting.

I know most won't believe this, but if some of you want to believe that the mark is a computer chip then I have right to believe that 666= a really mean roman emperor who actually fulfilled alot of the Revelation prophecy whether you choose to believe it or not.
 

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God also gave them all the same language fulfilling Genesis 11:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Than God rested on the seventh day this one day was a thousand years
2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. So it was a thousand year before God even put his hands to forming Adam and Eve.


This is bullarkie! Peter is making a reference here from the OT passage psalm 90:4.
For a thousand years in Your sight
Are like yesterday when it is past,
And like a watch in the night.

What Peter and the psalmist are saying is God doesn't bow to time, that time puts no constraints on Him. God is sovereign over time and man, and the only way man can adequately understand this concept is by verse 4, “For a thousand years in Your sight, Are like yesterday when it is past, And like a watch in the night.”(NKJV). The KJV says “are as a day, yesterday,” simply put a thousand years does not equal a day, but is similar to, because God does not experience time as we do. For even like a watch in the night (so what's this, about 8 hours?), is like a thousand years. So here you have 1000 years is like a day, or a watch in the night, or do you interpret this to be a day and a watch together is like a 1000 years? In my opinion, to interpret day here (2 Peter 3:8 also) as equal (in which it never says equal, or the same, it says LIKE or AS IS) to a 1000 years is missing the whole point and spiritual meaning of the passage.
 
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Rev 13:7 and it was given unto him to make war over the saints and over come them.( the beast) ....and cause that as many that would not worship the beast should be killed ( the false prophet) And he( false prophet) causes....to receive a mark. or his name ,or the number of his name. And a third angel followed saying If any man worship the beast and his image and receive his mark in his for head or hand the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God. Praise God ! Here is the patience of the saints here are they which keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.And I heard another voice saying blessed are the dead which die in the lord henceforth Praise God again. Any one who takes the mark deserves it in Gods judgement. Beware of covetousness which is IDOLATRY Why is covetousness idolatry? And who are you worshiping? You are sacrificing to yourself and worshiping your self. Probably because you think you are god and sitting in the seat of God ,Shewing that you yourself are God.Satan wants his own children just like the father and will mark them just like the Father marks and sets apart those who are his. But Praise God the man of sin will be revealed .