It’s amazing to me that some people disagree about how the Spirit of God is manifested in this present day. Some say the Spirit gives utterance of the Word of God to them, and others say that the Spirit of God is manifested through His Word. So allow me to explain both views according to scripture.
2 Peter 1:21 (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Here we understand that the Holy Spirit moved the writers to write the Old Testament. Yet some say that the Old Testament and/or Covenant is obsolete through Christ, and the Spirit now leads us. Evidently there is a different spirit than that which inspired the Old? Maybe that’s the spirit of human nature.
2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
And then others believe that the Spirit comes to us through the Word. So we say that the Mosaic Law defines our human nature that is at odds with the Spirit of God. We see this tool as instruction to identify ourselves, and see we are not to react to what feels good or bad, but what is revealed to us in what we read, being understood via the Holy Spirit.
With human nature we always get the cart before the horse. Funny thing is, that when we deny parts of the Word of God, in what they were originally intended for, we think that this nature is God’s when it’s really our own. When we purposefully reject certain parts of the Old Testament, as a thing of the past, how can we say the Spirit leads us? There is a Law called the law of liberty. Is that law a different law that liberates human nature, giving us the comfort that we are saved without looking into it?
James 1:23-26 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
talk about a loaded post!
come now, just me, could there be any answer other than the one you have in mind?
what's this?:
Here we understand that the Holy Spirit moved the writers to write the Old Testament. Yet some say that the Old Testament and/or Covenant is obsolete through Christ, and the Spirit now leads us.
okay. with you so far.
the some who say the Old Covenant is obsolete are Father Son and Holy Spirit.
they agree.
so did the inspired NT writers (as did the OT prophets prophesy)
but then....
Evidently there is a different spirit than that which inspired the Old? Maybe that’s the spirit of human nature.
really?
might want to be a little careful with that.
just a suggestion.
which spirit inspired these writings? the HOLY HOLY HOLY Spirit? or "the spirit of human nature"
Hebrews 8
In that he said, A new covenant, he
has made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away.
Luke 22:20
In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.
2 Corinthians 3:6
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant--not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
etc.
there is a NEW covenant.
"a new covenant--not of the letter but of the Spirit" < looks like it's the same Spirit from the Old Testament.
He is God.
NEW MEANS NEW.
Myth. It is a Renewed Covenant, not a New Covenant. It a Renewed Covenant not a New Testament.
A. There are many in Hebrew Roots or Hebraic Roots and some who call themselves Messianics who believe that Jeremiah 31:31-32 means a renewed covenant, not a new covenant. What is accomplished by calling it renewed? And what do the Scriptures really say?
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
In Jeremiah 31:31 the Hebrew clearly says brit (covenant) chadasha (new). If you were to ask any fluent Hebrew speaker, regardless of their religious beliefs, what chadasha means, they will agree it means "new". Further, the words following it say "lo k´brit ", not like the covenant , that I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand…"
New> H2319 חדשׁ châdâsh khaw-dawsh' From H2318; new: - fresh, new thing.
Covenant >H1285 בּרית berîyth ber-eeth' From H1262 (in the sense of cutting (like H1254)); a compact (because made by passing between pieces of flesh): - confederacy, [con-]feder[-ate], covenant, league.
This tells us that the prophecy that was being laid out by God through Jeremiah, was that it was going to be a new and different covenant to the one made when God took the Israelites out of Egypt.. Scripture records how they did break the covenant, and hence the need of a new covenant.
Some compare the concept of the renewed covenant with the moon being 'renewed' therefore it correlates to the covenant not being new, but renewed. However, they neither study to understand the Scriptures nor know them. Most have access to a Strong's Concordance, Thayer's or Brown's Driver Brigg's (BDB), which can help with word studies. If you look at the word Renew, we find it is translated ten times in total from Hebrew.
Ten times we find the word chadash, used in the OT in the KJV: 3 times as "renew"; 3 times as "repair"; 2 times as "renewed"; 2 times as "renewest".
Strong's H2318 חדשׁ châdash khaw-dash' A primitive root; to be new; causatively to rebuild: - renew, repair
H2318 חדשׁ châdash BDB Definition: 1) to be new, renew, repair...
Renew: Psalm 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. ( 1Samuel 11:14; Lam 5:21)
Renewed: Psalm 103:5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's. (2 Ch 24:4)
Renewest: Psalm 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth. (Job 10:17)
Repair: 2Ch 24:4, 2Ch 24:12, Isa 61:4
The other two times we see renew and one time as renewed, comes from Strong's 2498, chalaph, which is found used 28 times in the OT in the KJV. 6 times as "changed"; 4 times as "change"; 2 times as "groweth"; 2 times as "pass"; 2 times as "passed"; 1 as "abolish"; 1 as "alter"; 1 as "cut"; 1 as "go"; 1 as "over"; 1 as "passeth"; 1 as "sprout"; 1 as "stricken"; 1 as "strike"
Strong's H2498 חלף châlaph khaw-laf' A primitive root; properly to slide by, that is, (by implication) to hasten away, pass on, spring up, pierce or change: - abolish, alter change, cut off, go on forward, grow up, be over, pass (away, on, through), renew, sprout, strike through.
BDB Definition :H2498 1) to pass on or away, pass through, pass by, go through, grow up, change, to go on from...
Renew: Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
Isaiah 41:1 Keep silence before me, O islands; and let the people renew their strength: let them come near; then let them speak: let us come near together to judgment.
Renewed: Job 29:20 My glory was fresh in me, and my bow was renewed in my hand.
The word NEW is found translated from seven different words in the OT. For space, Strong's concordance will be used:
H1069 בּכר bâkar baw-kar' A primitive root; properly to burst the womb, that is, (causatively) bear or make early fruit (of woman or tree); also (as denominatively from H1061) to give the birthright: - make firstborn, be firstling, bring forth first child (new fruit).
Of the six occurrences in the KJV, it is found as new once in Ezekiel 47:12 "...it shall bring forth NEW fruit according to his months, ..."
H1278 בּריאה berîy'âh ber-ee-aw' Feminine from H1254; a creation, that is, a novelty: - new thing.
New is found only once in Numbers 16:30 "...But if the LORD make a new thing,..."
H2323 חדת chădâth khad-ath' (Chaldee); corresponding to H2319 ; new: - new.
It ( chădâth) was originally Aramaic. which means new. It corresponds to H2319 which is châdâsh which BDB defines as "new, new thing, fresh" .
Jesus speaks of the new testament, which means new covenant, in His blood.
Mat 26:27-28
(27) And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; (28) For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Strong's Greek > new G2537 - kainos kahee-nos' Of uncertain affinity; new (especially in freshness; while G3501 is properly so with respect to age): - new.
testament, G1242 diathēkē dee-ath-ay'-kay From G1303; properly a disposition, that is, (specifically) a contract (especially a devisory will): - covenant, testament.
In the second chapter of Corinthians we see where Paul lists three differences between these two covenants.
2Corinthians 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
...6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
What Paul was saying was that the Old Covenant which was engraved in stones was glorious but that the ministry of the Spirit was more glorious, because the glory of the ministry of the law given Moses was passing away .The glory of the New overshadows the glory of the old. Thus we see that the first was a temporary one whose glory passed away, yet the New being eternal, remains.
The Old was a ministry of condemnation (v9) and death (v7), the New is the ministry of life(v6) and righteousness(v9).The law is holy but due to man´s inability to adhere to it, it became a ministry of death, showing us that man can never be righteous by his own efforts. As Isaiah the prophet said, all our righteousness is as filthy rags. Hence the need for God to provide the only way to Him, based on the righteousness of Christ.
It has been suggested that some who propagate the faulty scholarship regarding renew do so because if it is called a renewed covenant, they can then justify telling their adherents that they have to obey the Torah of Moses given at Sinai. Those who don't agree are considered non-believers and lost.
Some posit that God would never break His promise, so the Mosaic law or old covenant is still in effect. It is true that God cannot break His Word, which is what sealed the covenant with Abraham, Moses and for all other covenants. But people do break their word and promises, and the Scriptures do show that Israel was not faithful in keeping the Mosaic covenant. God repeatedly prefaced His instructions with "if" you do this, or "if" you don't.
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