Who/What is the antichrist?

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Ok so I kinda feel dumb for askingbut then again there arn't any dumb questions when it comes to Christ, right?

Anyhow, I admittedly don't know much about the subject of the antichirst, I suppose I have always been a bit...leary, of this subject. But, I want to grow and with the times how they have been I'd like to know more.

What do people know of this subject? Bible references for me to look up? I'd appreciate it! Just needing a place to start like if the antichrist will be 'the beast' or a man, some things I've read suggest it will be a man, but I always get confused and frazzled when looking up answers biblically.


Thanks guys!!
 
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A spirit that possesses the souls to cause them to go against the ways of God.

Matthew 5:11“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

Matthew 12:30“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.
 
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The Antichrist is a man empowered by satan during the time of Jacob's Trouble, often referred to as the Great Tribulation in Revelation. The spirit of Antichrist is seen constantly in many forms, including dictators.
 
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mystdancer50 said:
The Antichrist is a man empowered by satan during the time of Jacob's Trouble, often referred to as the Great Tribulation in Revelation. The spirit of Antichrist is seen constantly in many forms, including dictators.
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thank you for the clarification!!
 
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Anti Christ is Satan himself. Some places to get you started understanding that is Revelation 12:9/ Rev 13 and 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2. And Mark 13.
 
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A good description of instead-of-Christ (anti-Christ) is in Ezekiel CH: 28; gives one a good idea of who we will be facing off against.
 
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The term antichrist, is actually a misnomer when used concerning a man at the end time. This is really the Man of Sin. He is the False Prophet of Revelation and the Beast of Rev 13:11-17. Note that verse 18 refers back to the political/military leader we call the Beast.

He is the head of a great false universal church that will work wonders, perform miracles and even call fire down from heaven and deceive all but the very elect.

His fate is to be burned to death in the Lake of Fire...

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
 
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1 Yahchanan (John) 2:18, "Little children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Anti- Messiah will come, even now there are many Anti-Messiahs; by this we know that this is the last hour."

Revelation 13:18, "Here is wisdom: Let him who has understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man. And his number is 666."

Daniyl 8:11-13, "Yes, he magnified himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down. And a host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and succeeded. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said to the one that spoke: How long will be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the setting up of The Abomination of Desolation (Lord of Heaven), and the surrender of the sanctuary, and the host to be trampled underfoot?

as high as the Prince of the host that means as high as Yahshua this man calles himself. = Vicarius Filii Del





See the cheribims? he thinks he sitting on the mecry seat, that is the Most High's seat
2 Thessalonians 2:4, "Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called gods or that is worshiped; so that he, as the Almighty, sits in the temple of Yahweh, showing himself that he is the Mighty One"
 
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Hizikyah,
This is not the pope, it really has nothing at all to do with the pope or the catholic church. It has to do with deception of the instead of Christ ( antichrist ) and the 6th vial seal and trump .

If you look at the pope, then that is the wrong direction, that leads away from understanding this.
 
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Hizikyah,
This is not the pope, it really has nothing at all to do with the pope or the catholic church. It has to do with deception of the instead of Christ ( antichrist ) and the 6th vial seal and trump .

If you look at the pope, then that is the wrong direction, that leads away from understanding this.
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It has EVERYTHING to do with the Pope. The Pope will be the False Prophet and the Man of sin. He will set up (and be) the AoD.
 
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Revelation 17:4-5, "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication. And upon her head was a name written: MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF THE HARLOTS hAND OF THE iABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."



Revelation 17:9, "And here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits."


Revelation 13:6, "And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against Yahweh, to blaspheme His Name, and His House, and those who dwell in heaven."

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Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away,
the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws"

"The Pope is of great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws... The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth." -Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Ribliotheca, "Papa," art. 2, translated.

“Sunday is our mark or authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
 
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nathan3 said:
Hizikyah,
This is not the pope, it really has nothing at all to do with the pope or the catholic church. It has to do with deception of the instead of Christ ( antichrist ) and the 6th vial seal and trump .

If you look at the pope, then that is the wrong direction, that leads away from understanding this.
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If this is so and I am wrong I would like for you to refute my findings ans prove your stance. Also I might add these are only some of the verses, probably less than half that prove my stance. But none the less show me your proof please.
 
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Antichrist is "something instead of the anointing"

Got nothing to do with anyone except yourself.
 
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nathan3 said:
Anti Christ is Satan himself. Some places to get you started understanding that is Revelation 12:9/ Rev 13 and 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2. And Mark 13.
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Revelation 13:4, "And they worshiped the dragon which gave power to the beast; and they worshiped the ubeast, saying: Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"

satan is not the anti-Messiah, satan give power to the anti-Messiah or beast

Revelation 13:18, "Here is wisdom: Let him who has understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man. And his number is 666."
 
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Antichrist is "something instead of the anointing"

Got nothing to do with anyone except yourself.
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1 Yahchanan (John) 2:18, "Little children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Anti- Messiah will come, even now there are many Anti-Messiahs; by this we know that this is the last hour."

Revelation 13:4-8, "And they worshiped the dragon which gave power to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying: Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things, and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to wmake war for forty-two moons. And he opened his mouth in
blasphemy against Yahweh, to blaspheme His Name, and His House, and those who dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. And authority was given him over all tribes, and peoples and languages, and nations. And all who dwell upon the earth will worship him--whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world, in The Book of Life of the Lamb Who was slain."
 
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How about a meaningful exegesis of your statement?
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And forgive me, I should have said "self" instead of "yourself", not calling anyone antichrist here lol.

Antichrist is to worship Jesus as an external myth, instead of believing He is to be resurrected within the believer.
We all have the potential be like Him, but hardly anybody really believes it.

So many people look for "second coming" references in the new testament, when the whole thing is about the second coming.

There's a peculiarity that the term "Christian" is used to label a people who generally do not believe they can be termed "Christ". If anyone actually loved like Jesus did, signs and wonders would follow them.

The believer doesn't want to be raptured. The believer wants to hang around and show Jesus to the world.

[SUP]47 [/SUP]And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[SUP]48 [/SUP]And ye are witnesses of these things.

[SUP]49 [/SUP]And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.


[SUP]9 [/SUP]And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.


3 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

[SUP]2 [/SUP]Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
 
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If this is so and I am wrong I would like for you to refute my findings ans prove your stance. Also I might add these are only some of the verses, probably less than half that prove my stance. But none the less show me your proof please.
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It is a long study. you have to understand the Book of Revelation to understand this. I'm not qualified to teach, so i can direct you where to learn this from. But I will try to give you places to read now.

Anti-Christ is English, and the English meaning is against. Now, he is against Christ, but it is Not what Anti means, from the Greek it was taken.

It's from ἀντίχριστος-antichristos

The " anti " part of that word is below

ἀντί

anti

an-tee'

A primary particle;
{opposite} that {is} instead or because of (rarely in addition to): - {for} in the room of. Often used in composition to denote {contrast} requital 6
{substitution} { correspondence } etc.


The reason it is instead, is because, he comes claiming to be Him ( 2nd Thessalonians 2 )




that Satan, comes to this earth ( Rev 12:9 ) To deceive the World. That falls into place at the sixth trump. seal and vial basically.


The True Christ, does not arrive until the seventh trumpet ( Revelation 11:15 ).


So that is the basic reason, why he is called " Instead of Christ". Because he comes before Him. See?

Your given who he is, in Revelation 12:9. It is non other then that old supernatural man himself Satan. It is not anyone else and no one else will take that role from him . It is written there plainly enough.



Read the verses I quoted.


Also, Read Revelation 13: ( The second Beast ) he looks like the lamb, ( Christ ) but he speaks as the Dragon ( Satan Rev. 12:9 ). Because it IS Satan. it is not difficult. he even performs miracles making lightning fall from heaven ...

No human - man is going to do that.

I recommend some clear plain studies for you. just email me for that. Don't have your mind seared over with traditional teachings and conspiracies about the pope , because its a misdirection .. It leads Completely away from the Truth about these things.
 
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Im sorry to say it but you are way off.
 
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Hizikyah said:
Im sorry to say it but you are way off.
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Oh you said way off. Why do you think that ? I quoted scripture and it reads plainly. What do you think about what is written, from the verses and chapters I quoted from ? My post basically consist of direct quotes.So I can't see the difficulty .
 
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