Call on the Name of the Lord be Saved?

[followjja]

"For EVERYONE who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Rom 10:13Doesn't this sound TOO EASY? If that is all that it takes, then the rest of the Bible is just fluff. This is the secret way to get into heaven the EASY WAY. Who wants to work harder than they have to? Even atheists could memorize this secret and get into heaven, lol. Find out what the Lord's name is, and you are IN. GREAT, but is it true? What did Jesus have to say about this?Matt 7:21-23, __v21, "Not everyone who says to me "Lord, Lord" wil enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."Luke 6:46, "Why do you call me Lord, Lord and not do what I tell you?"Ideas? I think that Jesus was NEVER wrong.

 

[Dustoffmyfeet]

"For EVERYONE who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Rom 10:13

Doesn't this sound TOO EASY? If that is all that it takes, then the rest of the Bible is just fluff. This is the secret way to get into heaven the EASY WAY. Who wants to work harder than they have to? Even atheists could memorize this secret and get into heaven, lol. Find out what the Lord's name is, and you are IN. GREAT, but is it true? What did Jesus have to say about this?

Matt 7:21-23, __v21, "Not everyone who says to me "Lord, Lord" wil enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."

Ideas? I think that Jesus was NEVER wrong.

As I had mentioned to you before, Paul understood about as complete as a man can get about the salvation of all men. Jesus came to save all, and He will. Thus all who call on His name will be saved.

Now again Jesus is RISEN. WE are dying though, nonetheless. So it is US who claim to know Him and yet look at what we do to one another. Love has truly waxed cold.

 

[BenFTW]

"For EVERYONE who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Rom 10:13Doesn't this sound TOO EASY? If that is all that it takes, then the rest of the Bible is just fluff. This is the secret way to get into heaven the EASY WAY. Who wants to work harder than they have to? Even atheists could memorize this secret and get into heaven, lol. Find out what the Lord's name is, and you are IN. GREAT, but is it true? What did Jesus have to say about this?Matt 7:21-23, __v21, "Not everyone who says to me "Lord, Lord" wil enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."Luke 6:46, "Why do you call me Lord, Lord and not do what I tell you?"Ideas? I think that Jesus was NEVER wrong.

What is the will of the Father?

John 6:39-40

King James Version (KJV)

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

So, I say, what is the will of the Father? To believe solely in Jesus Christ. You'll notice that the men brought up what they have done (rebuking demons, healing, and miracles, etc) in His name, but not what Jesus did for them (which is, died on the cross, got buried and resurrected on the third day). Their confidence was in their works, and not in Christ, which is the will of the Father (that is, to believe in Jesus Christ, as their Lord and Savior).

Grace and grace alone, through faith in Jesus Christ, not of works.

 

[followjja]

"For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Rom 10:13

Doesn't this sound TOO easy? If that is all that it takes, then the rest of the bible is fluff. THis is the secret way to get into heaven the EASY WAY. Who wants to work harder than they have to? Even atheists could memorize this name (just in case)

Find out what the Lord's name is and you are IN, GREAT, but is it true? What did Jesus have to say?

Matt 7:21-23__v 23, "Not everyone who says to me "Lord, Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven but the one who does the will of my Father in heaven."

Luke 6:46, "Why do you call me "Lord, Lord" and not DO what I tell you?"

Ideas? I think that Jesus was never wrong. (The OP got messed, up, and couldn't edit it, so I retyped it)

 

[p_rehbein]

........seriously?..........

Clearly there is a lack of understanding as to what "calling upon the Name of the Lord" entails............sigh.......

This may be the weakest attempt to justify "works" over "faith" I have read here on CC.

Simple "honesty" would require one to keep that verse "in context" would it not?

Romans
10


1 .) Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 .) For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 .) For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 .) For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 .) For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6 .) But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above
7 .) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 .) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 .) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 .) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 .) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 .) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 .) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 .) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 .) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 .) But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 .) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

[followjja]

As I had mentioned to you before, Paul understood about as complete as a man can get about the salvation of all men. Jesus came to save all, and He will. Thus all who call on His name will be saved.Now again Jesus is RISEN. WE are dying though, nonetheless. So it is US who claim to know Him and yet look at what we do to one another. Love has truly waxed cold.

You seem to think that ALL will be saved? That is not what Jesus taught. See Matt 7:23 again, "not everyone" One must do the will of the Father in heaven.

 

[BenFTW]

You seem to think that ALL will be saved? That is not what Jesus taught. See Matt 7:23 again, "not everyone" One must do the will of the Father in heaven.

What is that will? If you look above, I made a reply and it clearly shows what His will is. Give it a read and tell me your thoughts.

 

[Dustoffmyfeet]

You seem to think that ALL will be saved? That is not what Jesus taught. See Matt 7:23 again, "not everyone" One must do the will of the Father in heaven.

If the kingdom of heaven is WITHIN YOU, why do you still die? I know you do not understand, but if you believe you have the right to do what you want with the stuff you purchased, why not believe that Christ does not have the right to do the same?

Of a truth, if we all really wanted to, we can be in the kingdom NOW! But as I state repeatedly, we are still worrying about paying bills and surviving feeding our own selves. Most of the planet is in poverty or starving!

 

[followjja]

What is the will of the Father?

John 6:39-40

King James Version (KJV)

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

So, I say, what is the will of the Father? To believe solely in Jesus Christ. You'll notice that the men brought up what they have done (rebuking demons, healing, and miracles, etc) in His name, but not what Jesus did for them (which is, died on the cross, got buried and resurrected on the third day). Their confidence was in their works, and not in Christ, which is the will of the Father (that is, to believe in Jesus Christ, as their Lord and Savior).

Grace and grace alone, through faith in Jesus Christ, not of works.

You apparently think that the Sermon on the Mount and the Sermon on the Plain don't count? I've been told that people in seminary are told to avoid those, it will just get them into trouble.

Jesus said, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away." Matt, Mark, Luke

Do you honestly think one can believe in Jesus and not DO what he said to DO? See Luke 6:46 again.

"If you love me you will keep my commandments." John 14:15 Do you think it is God's will to NOT keep Jesus' commandments?

 

[BenFTW]

You apparently think that the Sermon on the Mount and the Sermon on the Plain don't count? I've been told that people in seminary are told to avoid those, it will just get them into trouble.

Jesus said, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away." Matt, Mark, Luke

Do you honestly think one can believe in Jesus and not DO what he said to DO? See Luke 6:46 again.

"If you love me you will keep my commandments." John 14:15 Do you think it is God's will to NOT keep Jesus' commandments?

What I "honestly think" is that you are making too many accusations and assumptions and are responding in a very confrontational way, all the while ignoring whats been posted. More so, not offering a rebuttal. Do you agree that the will of the Father is to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior? Do you see that the men pointed to their works and not Christ?

 

[followjja]

If the kingdom of heaven is WITHIN YOU, why do you still die? I know you do not understand, but if you believe you have the right to do what you want with the stuff you purchased, why not believe that Christ does not have the right to do the same?

Of a truth, if we all really wanted to, we can be in the kingdom NOW! But as I state repeatedly, we are still worrying about paying bills and surviving feeding our own selves. Most of the planet is in poverty or starving!

The kingdom is not inside people. A person can be in a country or a kingdom, but a country cannot be inside a person. The kingdom of God has arrived. Jesus talked about the kingdom a lot, the word kingdom is used more than 120 times in the 4 gospels.

 

[followjja]

What I "honestly think" is that you are making too many accusations and assumptions and are responding in a very confrontational way, all the while ignoring whats been posted. More so, not offering a rebuttal. Do you agree that the will of the Father is to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior? Do you see that the men pointed to their works and not Christ?

I have a very SLOW dial up ISP, and it is acting up today. Why don't you respond to what I posted.

The Father's will is to believe and DO what Jesus spoke, that is why so few followed him. They saw the miracles that Jesus did, they didn't like WHAT HE SAID.

They pointed to miracles , not obeying Jesus' commands. Doesn't that sound like the miracle preachers of today? They are on TV claiming miracles done in Jesus' name.

These "works", are you referring to obeying Jesus' commands? Or work, like working in the garden, or work at a factory?

 

[Dustoffmyfeet]

The kingdom is not inside people. A person can be in a country or a kingdom, but a country cannot be inside a person. The kingdom of God has arrived. Jesus talked about the kingdom a lot, the word kingdom is used more than 120 times in the 4 gospels.

I thought you said the Jesus was "NEVER wrong"?

Luke 17:20-21
[SUP]
20 [/SUP]And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

 

[Bookends]

Basically what Paul is saying in Romans 10:13 is the same thing Luke is saying in Act 4:12;
[h=3]Acts 4:12[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)


[SUP]12 [/SUP]Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

 

[followjja]

I thought you said the Jesus was "NEVER wrong"?

Luke 17:20-21
[SUP]
20 [/SUP]And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

I didn't say that translators never make errors. You used a poor translation.

"for behold the kingdom of God is in the midst of you." ESV

The word "midst" is used often, get out a concordance. Examples:

midst of the sea Mark 6:47, set him in the midst of them Mark 9:36, Many more

 

[mystdancer50]

To call 'upon' doesn't mean to merely speak His name...it literally means "to permit one's self to be surnamed" (Epikaleomai in the original Greek), as in taking on the name of Christ upon yourself, becoming like Him, which is the calling of everyone who professes themselves to be Christians...to be holy as Christ is holy, to take on His name and live a life worthy of that name. To call on or invoke the name of the Lord means that we submit to His authority and ability to provide cleansing. We submit by humbly doing what He has told us to do. It is not simply speaking a name.

Furthermore, as we all know, there is power in the name of Jesus, so when one takes on His name, it means "the name is used for everything which the name covers, everything the thought or feeling of which is aroused in the mind by mentioning, hearing, remembering, the name, i.e. for one's rank, authority, interests, pleasure, command, excellences, deeds etc." (Onoma in the original Greek). So, as you can see, there is so much more inferred in this verse than looking at it merely as speaking Jesus' name, going about your business, and expecting salvation.

Word study is so important when looking at Scripture, as our versions have been translated from Hebrew and Greek and sometimes the word used to express the original word fails to hit the mark and fully get the point across. That is not to say that it is incorrect. Rather, there is such depth in God's word that one must never assume or look at it at a surface level. We are called, as believers, to plumb the depths of His word for the treasures that lie there.

 

[Dustoffmyfeet]

I didn't say that translators never make errors. You used a poor translation.

"for behold the kingdom of God is in the midst of you." ESV

The word "midst" is used often, get out a concordance. Examples:

midst of the sea Mark 6:47, set him in the midst of them Mark 9:36, Many more

To me it is the same thing. It is a MINDSET. The kingdom is all around me. I see it because I first understand that all will be saved. Not because of what you, I or anyone else did, but because that is His will. So if you are waiting on something to fall out of the sky, it isn't going to happen. It comes not with observation, but an examining of what you really want from within your own mind, thoughts and actions.

Again we live on fear. The fear of losing our salvation, our jobs, our houses, etc. That did not come from God but men. We have enough for all to live for free and without cost. You don't see ant colonies behaving like we do, but as the bible states:

"The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider."

 

[Donkeyfish07]

That's a very good question. It's one of my favorite verses actually. The scripture that P_Rehbein posted from romans answers it sufficiently I think. The only thing I would add to that is consider Jeremiah 29:13 and Philipians 3:17-19 to gain a clearer perspective on the big picture.

 

[followjja]

What is that will? If you look above, I made a reply and it clearly shows what His will is. Give it a read and tell me your thoughts.

You never answered the OP, is calling on the name of the Lord ENOUGH?

I gave my thougts in other posts, what are your thoughts on the question in the OP??

 

[SeaBass]

In Acts 2:21 Peter quoted Joel's prophecy:

"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved"

This prophecy of Joel was fullfilled in Acts 2:38:

"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."



Acts 2:21------------calls upon the name of the Lord>>>>>>>>>>>>>>saved
Acts 2:38-----------repent and be baptized>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remission of sins


"Saved" and "remission of sins" are equivalent. And since there is just one way to be saved then calling upon the name of the Lord is equivalent to repent and be baptized. Acts 22:16 when Saul (Paul) was baptized he was calling upon the name of the Lord.

In Rom 10:9,10 Paul says believing saves and confession saves.



Rom 10:9,10-------------believe and repent>>>>>>>>>>>>>>saves
Rom 10:13----------------call upon the name of the Lord>>>>>>saves

So calling upon the name of the Lord includes believng and confessing.