The Antichrist has changed God's law and times.

Scuba · Jul 4, 2014

The Antichrist claims to have authority to changes God's Law and times. This was prophesied by God that it would happen.

Daniel 7:25 He (the Antichrist) shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand for a time and times and half a time.

Does the Antichrist claim to have authority to changes God's times and Law? Yes he does.

"The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ." "The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ." Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris' Ecclesiastical Dictionary.

Did he change God's times and Law. Yes he did. He changed the seventh day Sabbath to the first day.

Question - Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer - Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Question - Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?

Answer - We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday. The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50, 3rd ed.

Did he change God's Law? Yes he did. He removed the second commandment, which speaks against idols.

Now the Catholic church has idols.

Since he removed the second commandment the third commandment becomes the second commandment and the fourth commandment becomes the third. Since he removed the second commandment from the ten that only leaves nine commandments so he makes two commandments out of the ninth commandment so that there will still be ten commandments.

This in not just a coincidence, this is Bible prophecy being fulfilled right before your eyes. repent and believe God and stop worship the Beast and it's image.

John_S · Jul 4, 2014

The Pope is NOT the antichrist.

Scuba · Jul 4, 2014

John_S said:

That and 50 cents might get you a cup of coffee.

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John_S · Jul 4, 2014

Scuba said:

I don't have to watch anything. The Pope is NOT the antichrist.

crossnote · Jul 4, 2014

Scuba said:

A command to Israel and not the Church...yup, that's gonna change our minds.

Scuba · Jul 4, 2014

crossnote said:

Who is Israel?

crossnote · Jul 4, 2014

Scuba said:

No wonder.The descendants of Jacob who were given the Mosaic Covenant. You read your bible, right?

Scuba · Jul 4, 2014

crossnote said:

Who does God make the New Covenant with?

crossnote · Jul 4, 2014

Scuba said:

Are you sure you want to derail your own thread?

Scuba · Jul 4, 2014

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Let no one deceive you are very powerful words. Lets dissect these verses and identify who the Antichrist is.

He is called the son of perdition. The son perdition comes from within God's family so he is going to do his deceptive work from the inside. The Antichrist is not some man outside of the family of God attacking God's people from the outside.

He opposes and exalts himself above all the is called God and worshiped.

The word is called, God. Does the pope believe his church is above the Bible? Yes he does.

"Sunday is our mark of authority..... The church is above the Bible, and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.

He sits in the temple of God showing himself that he is God. Does the pope sit in temple of God claiming to be God? Yes he does. The temple is God's people.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you?

Does the pope sit in the church claiming to be God? Yes he does.

"The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth." Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, "Cities Petrus Bertanous".

"...the Pope is as it were God on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having plenitude of power." Lucius Ferraris, in "Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica", Volume V, article on "Papa, Article II", titled "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility", #1, 5, 13-15, 18, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.

There is so much more but this should be enough to cause you look further.

blue_ladybug · Jul 4, 2014

The Pope may not be THE anti-christ, but he IS one of the many anti-christ's on the earth today!!

Scuba · Jul 4, 2014

blue_ladybug said:

The Bible speaks of the spirit of antichrist working in the days of the Apostles. If you do a historical timeline of the Roman Catholic church you will find that the Beast kingdom (Papal Rome) had church fathers in the days of the apostles. The spirit of antichrist was already at work during that time but the Bible also speaks of one Antichrist above all. It's a position that is held by a man who claims to be God, changes God's times and Law. He sits in the temple of God claiming to be God. He is the man at the head of the Beast kingdom in Revelation.

Scuba · Jul 4, 2014

Daniel 7:25 He (the Antichrist) shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand for a time and times and half a time.

We have already seen how the pope is the man of sin who sits in the temple of God claiming to be God. We have already seen how he exalts himself above the word. We have seen how he is the son of perdition which means he is on the inside, just like Judas. We have seen how he is sitting in the temple of God, which means he is within God's people. This is why God is calling His people to come out. Notice it's His people that means the son of perdition is working on the inside. This makes it hard to expose.

Let's take the next step. This man of sin persecutes the saints of the Most High. Did the Beast kingdom (Vatican/Papacy) persecute God's people. Yes it did. During the dark ages over 1000 million people were tortured and put to death for rejecting the beliefs and practices of the Papacy.

Scuba · Jul 4, 2014

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

The Antichrist hates this verse because it helps us to see the Papacy as this man. What I am saying is nothing new, even Martin Luther saw this.

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist...personally I declare that I owe the Pope no other obedience than that to Antichrist." (Aug. 18, 1520) Taken from The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Vol. 2., pg. 121 by Froom. (In response to a papal bull [official decree]): "I despise and attack it, as impious, false... It is Christ Himself who is condemned therein... I rejoice in having to bear such ills for the best of causes. Already I feel greater liberty in my heart; for at last I know that the pope is antichrist, and that his throne is that of Satan himself." --D'Aubigné, b.6, ch. 9. Martin Luther

Many of the preachers of old understood the papacy to be the seat of Antichrist.

"Some persons think us too severe and censorious when we call the Roman pontiff Antichrist. But those who are of this opinion do not consider that they bring the same charge of presumption against Paul himself, after whom we speak and whose language we adopt... I shall briefly show that (Paul's words in II Thess. 2) are not capable of any other interpretation than that which applies them to the Papacy." Taken from Institutes by John Calvin.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 says the second coming of Jesus comes after the great falling away and the revealing of Antichrist. If the Antichrist can change God's timing of this and say Jesus comes before the revealing of Antichrist then he can take himself off the Antichrist list because since Jesus has not come yet the pope can't be Antichrist.

Today most churches believe Jesus comes first and then the Antichrist is revealed. This is a deception according to 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 which says the Antichrist is revealed first then the Day of Jesus comes.

So what is this new doctrine called? It's called the Secret Rapture. A huge push for the deception came through the Left Behind series.

It is taught and believed even in contradiction of the Bible that Jesus will come secretly, like a thief in the night, and take His church leaving a bunch of people behind (Left Behind). This will start a seven year tribulation at which time the Antichrist is revealed. None of this is found in the Bible. As a matter of fact, it contradicts the Bible and no one is bothering to check for themselves.

Antichrist started this and promotes it because it hides his identity.

Let's look at some verses that teach Jesus coming as a thief in the night and you tell me if there is a seven year tribulation following His coming. Keep in mind, when they quote the verses they only quote half the verse but we will quote the whole verse.

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

There is no secret rapture, no seven year tribulation where the Antichrist is revealed. The Antichrist is here now. He has already changed God's times and Law and people are following him.

How we came to believe in the secret rapture?

Francisco Ribera and Cardinal Robert Bellarmine, commissioned by the papacy, devised this doctrine to conceal the identiy of Antichrist. A few ministers of old made it popular and the movie series, (Left Behind) led just about the whole world to believing it without one ounce of Scripture.

The great falling away from the faith is not a turning away from God, it's a turning away from the original teachings of Jesus through deception.

Don't be deceived...

crossnote · Jul 4, 2014

(2Th 2:8-9) and then the lawless one shall be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus shall consume with the breath of his mouth, and shall annul by the appearing of his coming; whose coming is according to the working of Satan in all power and signs and wonders of falsehood,

I haven't seen any miracles and wonders with the Pope. It is supposed to happen at the antichrist's 'coming'.

Scuba · Jul 4, 2014

crossnote said:

All you have to do is a little research and you will find many signs and wonders coming from the Beast kingdom.

Pope John Paul II to Become Saint After Miracle Approved

RedTent · Jul 4, 2014

crossnote said:

And these descendants have nothing to do with us, right?

Luk 1:33 He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end."

I have heard before that God didn't come alive for us until God sent Jesus. Scripture says He was there at creation, where was Jesus hiding those 3,000 years between Noah and Christ?

crossnote · Jul 4, 2014

RedTent said:

I never said 'nothing'. The context was getting off track on Israel and the Church (separate entities) but the Thread is about the Antichrist and the changed times. So...please.

crossnote · Jul 4, 2014

Scuba said:

Believe me the miracles and signs of wonders wont have to be approved by his camp, the miracles are going to take the world by storm because they hated the truth and loved a lie instead.

2Th 2:8-12 and then the lawless one shall be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus shall consume with the breath of his mouth, and shall annul by the appearing of his coming; (9) whose coming is according to the working of Satan in all power and signs and wonders of falsehood, (10) and in all deceit of unrighteousness to them that perish, because they have not received the love of the truth that they might be saved. (11) And for this reason God sends to them a working of error, that they should believe what is false, (12) that all might be judged who have not believed the truth, but have found pleasure in unrighteousness.

Learn to read Scripture not the SDA propaganda.

Scuba · Jul 5, 2014

Revelation 17:3-4 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication.

A woman in the Bible is a church and a beast is a kingdom. A harlot is an impure church. This woman is riding the beast, which means she has control over her kingdom. She is dressed in red with a golden cup in her hand. The cup is full of abominations. Let break all this down.

A woman in the Bible is a church. The woman who ride the beast is the Roman Catholic church. It's call the harlot because its beliefs and practices come from Babylon, not God.

She is dressed in purple and red with a golden cup in her hand that is full of abominations.

Why is the cup full of abominations? Because of what the Beast claims is in the cup.

Eucharist

God Himself descends on the altar, that he comes whenever they call him, and as often as they call him, and places himself in their hands, even though they should be his enemies. And after having come, he remains, entirely at their disposal; they move him as they please, from one place to another; they may, if they wish, shut him up in the tabernacle, expose him on the altar, or carry him outside the church; they may, if they choose, eat his flesh, and give him for the food of others. 'Oh, how very great is their power!' -The Dignity of the Priesthood by Ligouri p. 26,27

"...the power of the priest is the power of the divine person; for the transubstantiation of the bread requires as much power as the creation of the world. ...thus the priest may be called the creator of the Creator..." -The diginity of the priesthood by Liguori, p. 33

These are surly pompous words against God.

Daniel 7:25 He (the Antichrist) shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand for a time and times and half a time.

The Antichrist has changed God's law and times.

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