Nothing new about the "new" covenant?

[prove-all]

[Abraham had nothing to do with the covenant,]


16And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the Lord, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
17That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

Abraham had nothing to do with the covenant,?


Abraham not obey God ?

 

[JesusIsAll]

Jesus is not the author of the new covenant.

God is the author of both (Jer 31:31-33).

Ho'ed on der, Elinster! Jesus IS God, right? Dat rabbit hole et da Kingdom Hall grassies dun getcha?

 

[prove-all]

Originally Posted by Elin

Jesus is not the author of the new covenant.

God is the author of both (Jer 31:31-33).

does that mean you don't believe in the diety of Christ ?

 

[just-me]

You are confused.

Abraham was not in the covenant of the land with God,
Abraham had nothing to do with the covenant,
he was only the recipient of the covenant from God.

We are not in the new covenant with Christ,
we have nothing to do with the new covenant,
we are only recipients of the new covenant from God
which was cut in the blood of Jesus Christ,
just as the Abrahamic covenant was cut in the blood of animals.

The sacrificial animals are not the author of the Abrahamic covenant,
and Jesus is ot the author of the new covenant.

God is the author of both (Jer 31:31-33).

Trying to figure out where your rant developed. Oh well, I have learned that we are not of the same mind. Romans 12:16 Be of the same mind one toward another . Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

OK Onward! LOL

And this I say , that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul , that it should make the promise of none effect . Galatians 3:17

Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved) Ephesians 2:5
Sounds like a covenant to me as a written promise usually under seal between two or more parties especially for the performance of some action. What our reaction is to Christ's action can be a positive or negative response. A positive response is agreeing to the covenant, henceforth being a partner together with Christ.

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. Matthew 11:29

The yoke of a team of oxen are the 2 walking together in agreement side by side. One in the leader, and the other is the follower together with Christ.

 

[peacefulbeliever]

peacefulbeliever

You are right. The sacrificial law with the ordinances thereof are fulfilled in Christ. There are still laws that God gave to Moses that go into detail of how to love God, and how to love our neighbor as ourselves. The physical temple is gone with its physical ordinances. (Hebrews 8:13 along with the following verse in Hebrews 9:1) So many try to take scripture out of context to prove all instructions (the law) are void and abolished in the Old Covenant. There is now one covenant through Christ Jesus that contains much of the old testament truths that you described so brilliantly. The truth is new and renewed in the covenant with Christ. Thank you, and God bless you!

But to say that there is NOTHING NEW about the "NEW" Covenant is false! Because there are NEW things in the new covenant - else it wouldn't be called "a new and living way" - "a new testament" - "a more excellent ministry" - "a better covenant" . . . . .

 

[just-me]

But to say that there is NOTHING NEW about the "NEW" Covenant is false! Because there are NEW things in the new covenant - else it wouldn't be called "a new and living way" - "a new testament" - "a more excellent ministry" - "a better covenant" . . . . .

You're right in your perspective of things. I think the poster of the thread might have meant that the new covenant isn't minus the events leading up to it. Maybe I'm not real clear, so I'll add that the entire plan leading up to the salvation of Jesus Christ had to be enacted perfectly step by step in order for all things to be holy and perfect. After all, Jesus was before the beginning.

 

[peacefulbeliever]

You're right in your perspective of things. I think the poster of the thread might have meant that the new covenant isn't minus the events leading up to it. Maybe I'm not real clear, so I'll add that the entire plan leading up to the salvation of Jesus Christ had to be enacted perfectly step by step in order for all things to be holy and perfect. After all, Jesus was before the beginning.

The events leading up to the new covenant were but shadows and types of "a new and living way" - "a new testament" - "a more excellent ministry" - "a better covenant" . . . .that which was to come.

 

[Elin]

Ho'ed on der, Elinster! Jesus IS God, right?
Dat rabbit hole et da Kingdom Hall grassies dun getcha?

Stat--ue?

Naw. . .just pointing out to those who deny the deity of Jesus Christ

that the person of God the Father is not the person of God the Son is not
the person of God the Holy Spirit.

There are three separate persons in the one being of the Triune Godhead.

The person of the Father decrees, not the persons of the Son or the Holy Spirit.

The person of the Son accomplishes , not the persons of the Father or the Holy Spirit.

The person of the Holy Spirit applies, not the persons of the Father or the Son.

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