A saving faith vs a dead faith
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Ezekiel 43 (ESV)
4 As the glory of the Lord entered the temple by the gate facing east, 5 the Spirit lifted me up and brought me into the inner court; and behold, the glory of the Lord filled the temple.
Ezekiel 46 (ESV)
20 And he said to me, "This is the place where the priests shall boil the guilt offering and the sin offering, and where they shall bake the grain offering, in order not to bring them out into the outer court and so transmit holiness to the people."
It will be done once again in future, in the restored Kingdom of Israel, ruled by Christ Yeshua as King, once his temple has been restored. As for now, it is IMPOSSIBLE to obey that command, as the TEMPLE IS DESTROYED. Maybe God will commission a tabernacle with a priestly order before the temple prophesied for in Ezekiel, that I do not know.
Yes I do recognize context, BUT NEVER CAN THERE BE A CONTEXT FOR DISREGARDING CHRIST YESHUA'S WORD OF ETERNAL VALUE. If it happens to not correspond to your interpretation of Paul's writings, go back to Paul's writings and see what is IT'S CONTEXT, instead of QUESTIONING CHRIST YESHUA'S ETERNAL TEACHINGS.
I can not disregard Christ Yeshua's teachings, just because almost all of it happened before his resurrection, and was written about AFTER HIS ASCENSION TO HEAVEN, by his disciples, turned apostles, of which eleven out of twelve were martyred to death for their testimony. One survived his boiling pot martyring, the apostle John, and you question the eternal truth that Christ Yeshua brought by his gospel, the Gospel of John.
2 Peter 3 (ESV)
15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
I can not disregard Christ Yeshua's teachings, just because almost all of it happened before his resurrection, and was written about AFTER HIS ASCENSION TO HEAVEN, by his disciples, turned apostles, of which eleven out of twelve were martyred to death for their testimony. One survived his boiling pot martyring, the apostle John, and you question the eternal truth that Christ Yeshua brought by his gospel, the Gospel of John.
2 Peter 3 (ESV)
15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
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Christ Yeshua: "This is the work of God, that ye believe "
You: "notice the contrast?" "Faith is not ' works '"
Maybe what you meant, I do not know, maybe you will clarify what you meant, is:
Our faith is not our work, our faith is the work of God, His gift to us.
Ephesians 2 (ESV)
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
GraceAndTruth said:
When the disciples asked Jesus......what work must we do to be saved?
Jesus gave a one answer - "BELIEVE"
John 6: 28-29
28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
You: "notice the contrast?" "Faith is not ' works '"
Maybe what you meant, I do not know, maybe you will clarify what you meant, is:
Our faith is not our work, our faith is the work of God, His gift to us.
Ephesians 2 (ESV)
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
GraceAndTruth said:
When the disciples asked Jesus......what work must we do to be saved?
Jesus gave a one answer - "BELIEVE"
John 6: 28-29
28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
So you rightly see a command by Jesus and you know that it does not apply to you today. Correct ? Thats all my point is when distinguishing between the Old testament ( before his death) and the New testament ( After his death)
People start virtue signalling and become all sanctimonious when you point out a difference , a transition and something that's passed or something yet future . Thats all im doing .
People start virtue signalling and become all sanctimonious when you point out a difference , a transition and something that's passed or something yet future . Thats all im doing .
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You are putting words in my mouth, which is bearing false witness.
Paul's teachings have not been dismissed by me, nor Peter - the interpretation of Paul's writings is sometimes twisted by lawless people, and that is what is warned against in 2 Peter 3:15 - 18:
2 Peter 3 (ESV)
15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
Paul's teachings have not been dismissed by me, nor Peter - the interpretation of Paul's writings is sometimes twisted by lawless people, and that is what is warned against in 2 Peter 3:15 - 18:
2 Peter 3 (ESV)
15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
Our faith is God's work. Our faith is not our work.
As far as I know all these writings have been written in the time of the New Testament, ie. written in the time after the death and resurrection of Christ Yeshua:
Ephesians 2 (ESV)
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
John 6 (ESV)
29 Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent."
As far as I know all these writings have been written in the time of the New Testament, ie. written in the time after the death and resurrection of Christ Yeshua:
Ephesians 2 (ESV)
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
John 6 (ESV)
29 Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent."
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Faith is not the gift in Eph 2.8 .
Even John Calvin agreed on that point .
In the new testament Faith is the opposite to work .
27¶Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Rom 4
5¶But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, HIS !!!!!!!!! faith is counted for righteousness.
Even John Calvin agreed on that point .
In the new testament Faith is the opposite to work .
27¶Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Rom 4
5¶But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, HIS !!!!!!!!! faith is counted for righteousness.
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I suppose it depends on our individual definitions of Spirit and Soul. For example, I was taught that Soul has two meanings. Our living bodies and our own life force that dwells within. The Spirit as well has different meanings also but for the sake of time the meaning that applies is, the part of god that dwells within us after we receive the Holy Spirit and Salvation.
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