A "Thank You" to Jason
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As I said before, the alcoholic who stumbles on his road to recovery or being sober is striving to do what is good. However, the alcoholic who says they are free of alcohol and yet they claim they are never going to stop drinking is only deceiving themselves.
No. There are days I do not sin (those types of sins that lead unto death).
One receives mercy if they confess and forsake sin (See Proverbs 28:13).
Yes, I do follow God's Commands. But what must a Christian do if they do break one of His Commands? They have to confess and forsake that sin. See 1 John 1:9, and 1 John 1:7.
No. There are days I do not sin (those types of sins that lead unto death).
One receives mercy if they confess and forsake sin (See Proverbs 28:13).
Yes, I do follow God's Commands. But what must a Christian do if they do break one of His Commands? They have to confess and forsake that sin. See 1 John 1:9, and 1 John 1:7.
For who are people that are pure of heart going to follow? Do you think that person who is truly good is going to follow a man who thinks we can sin and still be saved? Or do you think the person who is good is going to follow after the person who teaches Christ's Commands and good ways? One path leads to darkness and death; The other path leads to light or the goodness of God.
In any event, I want to say....
Dear Willie:
May God's grace, love, and peace shine upon you this fine day. Stay strong in the LORD and keep checking His Word and trusting it and Him in all you do. Do not even take my word in what I say. Double check everything with the Word of God and He will direct your paths into all safety.
But again, I am overjoyed that you decided to trust the Lord for your protection. Let all the glory be unto Him for such a beautiful thing. Praise His name for the goodness in your life.
Peace be unto you.
With loving kindness to you in Christ,
~ Jason.
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Dear Willie:
May God's grace, love, and peace shine upon you this fine day. Stay strong in the LORD and keep checking His Word and trusting it and Him in all you do. Do not even take my word in what I say. Double check everything with the Word of God and He will direct your paths into all safety.
But again, I am overjoyed that you decided to trust the Lord for your protection. Let all the glory be unto Him for such a beautiful thing. Praise His name for the goodness in your life.
Peace be unto you.
With loving kindness to you in Christ,
~ Jason.
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I don't see him covering himself, I see him putting the lamp of God on the mantle. So we don't agree on that point. You state he claims that people who sin even after regeneration continually, will go to hell, that is what the bible says. So I guess we are not in agreement there either. You say that one sin will take you to hell, you state that Jason has said he sins everyday, yet I have never heard him say that. But by saying that you can conclude that his stand of forgiveness of sins by confession and turning from it, now is diluted and the, "one" sin will kick you out of heaven philosophy can become your premise of argument, while denoting his actual stand. One sin is not the deciding factor in our heaven destination at all I see him claiming. It is it not being reconciled to God thru His forgiveness of sin, and the turning from sin as a heart premise of dedication. It is the heart of the allowance of sin and continual sins that changes our heart and focus away from His Lordship in us, at this point we are not still covered by grace alone. Each sin has to be reckoned with- yes, but God is always there to cleanse us from all unrighteousness if we continue toward Him, thru confession and obedience.
As long as a Christian is moving toward God, and confessing and turning from sin, Gods forgiveness is there. this is available as God continues to finish His work in us carrying us to Holiness' conclusion, this is the view of scripture I see Jason representing. This is what scripture means to me as well, thru the testimony of the Holy Spirit, and His Word.. Like a lawyer you are setting up your argument for your case, with a feverish clamor to gain a God posse' yet you are not out to prove Christ correct, from the fruit of the arrows, but Jason wrong. Does this speak to you thru scripture? Have you biblically proven him wrong? I have not seen it. Are you filled with flaming arrows? If so, are they from God? What does scripture say about flaming arrows?
Your slander of Jason is relentless, He's a hypocrite, constantly, yet admitted that he still sins, tries to cover himself,claiming, yet, he sins everyday, [other slander]..just like the rest of us, then the pointed finger from the closing arguments of the prosecuting attorney: Isn't that habitual? How many sins dam a person?
Then Satans half-truths kick in: the connection of the one sin accountability to Jasons over- all biblical inclusion. and you nail the last nail to the coffin in the truth even one breaks them all attached to a mis-directed conclusion. Followed by some more exiting arrows Jason loves to impose rules, ON Christians. These things you have yet proven but state boldly that "he doesn't follow himself." Is this the unconditional love of Christ here?
Regardless of this being about a man named Jason, you are wrong scripturally for this type of behavior regardless of who is on the other side. I only say this because you have claimed not only victory in Christ but are leading the way to it for others by these statements. God will hold us all accountable to this. I have nothing personally to say about Jason's representation of Gods Word other than I thank him for doing so. And I thank God for working in any Christian who stands steadfast in His faith.
This is where I say thank you Jason for your service in a thread entitled "Thank You" Jason.
As long as a Christian is moving toward God, and confessing and turning from sin, Gods forgiveness is there. this is available as God continues to finish His work in us carrying us to Holiness' conclusion, this is the view of scripture I see Jason representing. This is what scripture means to me as well, thru the testimony of the Holy Spirit, and His Word.. Like a lawyer you are setting up your argument for your case, with a feverish clamor to gain a God posse' yet you are not out to prove Christ correct, from the fruit of the arrows, but Jason wrong. Does this speak to you thru scripture? Have you biblically proven him wrong? I have not seen it. Are you filled with flaming arrows? If so, are they from God? What does scripture say about flaming arrows?
Your slander of Jason is relentless, He's a hypocrite, constantly, yet admitted that he still sins, tries to cover himself,claiming, yet, he sins everyday, [other slander]..just like the rest of us, then the pointed finger from the closing arguments of the prosecuting attorney: Isn't that habitual? How many sins dam a person?
Then Satans half-truths kick in: the connection of the one sin accountability to Jasons over- all biblical inclusion. and you nail the last nail to the coffin in the truth even one breaks them all attached to a mis-directed conclusion. Followed by some more exiting arrows Jason loves to impose rules, ON Christians. These things you have yet proven but state boldly that "he doesn't follow himself." Is this the unconditional love of Christ here?
Regardless of this being about a man named Jason, you are wrong scripturally for this type of behavior regardless of who is on the other side. I only say this because you have claimed not only victory in Christ but are leading the way to it for others by these statements. God will hold us all accountable to this. I have nothing personally to say about Jason's representation of Gods Word other than I thank him for doing so. And I thank God for working in any Christian who stands steadfast in His faith.
This is where I say thank you Jason for your service in a thread entitled "Thank You" Jason.
I'd like to say thank you also, and not just because we agree on a couple issues. Thanks for your overall dedication on CC and all the time you put in.
I pray, for all of us, that differences on one or two topics will not destroy relationships and good discussions on other topics and threads. We are all brother's and sisters. We know Father wants us to love each other through thick and thin.
I pray, for all of us, that differences on one or two topics will not destroy relationships and good discussions on other topics and threads. We are all brother's and sisters. We know Father wants us to love each other through thick and thin.
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Well okay if you think that... but the scripture command is THOU SHALL NOT MURDER, so if GOD has to command mankind to not murder than mankind has the capacity to MURDER. Now, a twice born person, should NOT have the capacity to murder another person, because they have a new nature. Yet there is still the distinction that self-defense or defense of others could lead to the killing of the perpetrator... but that would not be murder.
B
When a believer follows the Lord it is by grace and according to faith in the promises of God. This is how a righteousness man follows hard after the Lord. Lot lived in Sodom and was considered a just man but he was vexed by the filthy conversation of the wicked who lived in Sodom. When he was mandated to flee from Sodom and not look back (unlike his wife) he obeyed and later got drunk with wine and had incest with his two daughters. This is in your Bible and Lot was not condemned nor was he deemed to not be a just man any longer. Jason, there is no explanation you can give on this story except that the NT records Lot to be a just and righteous man and that is according to the Holy Spirit who inspired the writings of (2 Peter 2:7-9 & Gen 19:31-38).
This story contradicts all that you believe concerning a believer who had been declared and made righteous and any sin he may have trouble with. There is no record of Lot's repentance or confession of sin for living in Sodom, being vexed by the wicked lifestyle of Sodom, the offering of his two married daughters to the men of the town to have sex with (gang rape) or for having incest with his daughters (Gen 19:1-11). Surely you would condemn such a man who had these specifics issues, acts and deeds in his life with no confession or repentance. How is it possible that the Holy Spirit of truth could say such a thing about Lot being a righteous man (1,000 of years later) when his very deeds contradicted that of a righteous man?
This story contradicts all that you believe concerning a believer who had been declared and made righteous and any sin he may have trouble with. There is no record of Lot's repentance or confession of sin for living in Sodom, being vexed by the wicked lifestyle of Sodom, the offering of his two married daughters to the men of the town to have sex with (gang rape) or for having incest with his daughters (Gen 19:1-11). Surely you would condemn such a man who had these specifics issues, acts and deeds in his life with no confession or repentance. How is it possible that the Holy Spirit of truth could say such a thing about Lot being a righteous man (1,000 of years later) when his very deeds contradicted that of a righteous man?
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Jesus raised the bar, magnifying the sixth commandment by moving it from the letter of the law to the spirit of the law.
“You have heard that the ancients were told, 'You shall not commit murder' and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’ “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell."
Jesus raised the bar, magnifying the sixth commandment by moving it from the letter of the law to the spirit of the law.
“You have heard that the ancients were told, 'You shall not commit murder' and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’ “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell."
Isn't it fulfilling to experience in real-time the change from exhortation to encouragement in a persons life....it's the payoff for steadfastness. For we all are called to such a ministry. The ministry is the .."glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust." If we are going to be loyal to that trust, it will mean we must never allow any impertinent sensitiveness to hinder our keeping the trust. Our trust is the glorious gospel for ourselves and thru us to others, and it is realized in two ways:
In the perfect certainty that God has redeemed the world, and in the imperative necessity of working on that basis with everyone with whom we come in contact. Col. 1: 28-29:
"We are preaching Him--spreading the Word to all with equal amounts of wise warning and instruction--so that, at the final judgement, we will be able to present everyone to the creator fully mature because of what Jesus the Anointed, our Liberating King, has done. This is why I continue to toil and struggle--because His amazing power and energy surge within me."
God bless Jason, God bless all of CC and God bless the Church as a whole, and God bless the World for they are about to get some! Soon! Now it is the Spirit that rests in you that took that last part the way you did! Smile. Let's give the World what we lack, as a people, by being the one that calls people to the impossible thru our impossible living.
In the perfect certainty that God has redeemed the world, and in the imperative necessity of working on that basis with everyone with whom we come in contact. Col. 1: 28-29:
"We are preaching Him--spreading the Word to all with equal amounts of wise warning and instruction--so that, at the final judgement, we will be able to present everyone to the creator fully mature because of what Jesus the Anointed, our Liberating King, has done. This is why I continue to toil and struggle--because His amazing power and energy surge within me."
God bless Jason, God bless all of CC and God bless the Church as a whole, and God bless the World for they are about to get some! Soon! Now it is the Spirit that rests in you that took that last part the way you did! Smile. Let's give the World what we lack, as a people, by being the one that calls people to the impossible thru our impossible living.
What gets me is how sad it is that people even feel the need to discuss self defense, from whatever view.
I have walked the streets at night alone in many Canadian cities and small towns. I have never been bothered, not even when I was young and pretty. Our home has never been broken into, although my SIL had her home broken into by teens in Calgary, that is really the exception to the rule.
Canadians don't carry guns, and we aren't afraid because we don't have them. Other than sex trade workers, women are safe in Canada. A lot of times, we forget to lock our doors at night, or when we go out, and nothing ever happens. For men, there are a few rubby bars, where men can get into brawls, usually with fists.
I remember as a child, when we lived in the San Francisco Bay area in the 1950's. My dad would not let my mom go out at night, because there was so much violence. In fact, he was a pro football player and really tough, and he would not go out at night, either. So this ethos of violence has been around a long time, in certain areas.
I pity those who live in countries where self defense is an issue, because there is so much violence. I would love to say that I don't carry weapons of any sort, because I agree with Jason, and I am a Christian who trusts God. But in fact, it is just a non-issue, and even non-Christians are not paranoid and afraid because there is not constant violence.
I have walked the streets at night alone in many Canadian cities and small towns. I have never been bothered, not even when I was young and pretty. Our home has never been broken into, although my SIL had her home broken into by teens in Calgary, that is really the exception to the rule.
Canadians don't carry guns, and we aren't afraid because we don't have them. Other than sex trade workers, women are safe in Canada. A lot of times, we forget to lock our doors at night, or when we go out, and nothing ever happens. For men, there are a few rubby bars, where men can get into brawls, usually with fists.
I remember as a child, when we lived in the San Francisco Bay area in the 1950's. My dad would not let my mom go out at night, because there was so much violence. In fact, he was a pro football player and really tough, and he would not go out at night, either. So this ethos of violence has been around a long time, in certain areas.
I pity those who live in countries where self defense is an issue, because there is so much violence. I would love to say that I don't carry weapons of any sort, because I agree with Jason, and I am a Christian who trusts God. But in fact, it is just a non-issue, and even non-Christians are not paranoid and afraid because there is not constant violence.
I forget which Michael Moore documentary it was, but he was in Toronto showing how different it is for us... walking up to people's houses and just opening the door as nobody had their doors locked... of course, that was during the day, but it is so true, our house was always accessible via the back door regardless the time of day, and the only time we were broken into (I didn't live at home then) was after the city expropriated the whole block to make a park... someone who knew the contents came in and stole a whole bunch of LPs LOL. Isn't there at least one place in the US where it is illegal not to own a gun?