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kennethcadwell

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Kenneth....I have publically apologized at least two to three times for getting mouthy OPENLY in OPEN FORUM.....so....join the false allegation crowd!
Not once have you apologized to me, so if you made a public apology it was never when I was logged on and present.
For I have asked you over 5 times in the past for an apology for how you have falsely accused me of things, and even made condemning remarks toward me. Not once in those threads did you apologize, nor did you even PM me and say sorry.
The bible says you are to go personally to the person you have wronged and apologize (make amends), not go off an apologize another time or publically when the person you have wronged is not around to hear it. It says you are to personally apologize to that person.

So once again another false allegation by you by saying I am making false allegations !!!
 
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DesiredHaven

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You was impressed weren't ye? LOL!
Can ya tell? LOL!

I had my husband back here saying write this! write that! And you going off and between you two I was trying to keep my composure LOL!

I got craamps from laughing at the most ridiculous stuff, and it always feels good afater you have been hounded and pursued, I must say
 
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kennethcadwell

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Kind of like this one......I can cut and paste more, but this ONE in itself proves your statement wrong....ANYONE covers YOU as well!

POPCORN, CANDY CANES and BUBBLE GUM THEOLOGY
Look I have something to say about most if not all of us.....

This is a bible discussion forum.....We do not all agree on the theologies that get posted here...We all defend our positions and our stance with verses, opinion, conjecture, supposition, guesses, logically deduced conclusions.....

We all have had moments were we get a little heated, or upset or offended as NO ONE LIKES TO BE TOLD THEY ARE WRONG...WE ALL joke occasionally, we all make pointed statements occasionally, we all have said things that were filled with a little stick and or prod......We all occasionally make a smart remark and or something we have said is taken out of context and is taken wrong or taken to mean anger or hatred or despising someone.....

We ALL claim Christ (except the atheists) and we ALL need to be like a duck and let the (WATER) run off our backs, and not be so easily offended.....A sure sign of spiritual immaturity is to be easily offended...let us all be mature and take it all with a grain of salt.

I love every man, woman and person that would use this site, I know I say things that are sometimes controversial and or pointed.....If I have offended anyone I apologize publically......

Obviously I was not present to read that apology, plus like I originally stated the bible says you are to personally make amends to the ones you have offended or wronged.............
 
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Obviously I was not present to read that apology, plus like I originally stated the bible says you are to personally make amends to the ones you have offended or wronged.............

I did...not my problem if you didn't receive it.....!
 
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I am just playing and I was doing this with my husband earlier who was following along, and I let go some, he does like InSpirit also, never sees him let loose in that way, we had a little fun before we will likely be banned because of whatever issues are going on here
ya i know.... no worries.... even if the ones preaching a false gospel don't get banned, it is more clear to see who they are now...... they react so predictably !

but no, it is not a laughing matter --- or is it? remember who GOD LAUGHS AT ? (in HIS WORD).... HE laughs at their plans and HE knows the end of them..... and they just go on and on and on and get worse every day.... instead of better..... unless they repent (like the tower of siloam and the twin towers) they will all LIKEWISE PERISH.....
 
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Obviously I was not present to read that apology, plus like I originally stated the bible says you are to personally make amends to the ones you have offended or wronged.............
Really....one and only one POST...FROM YOU AFTER YOU READ IT! WOW talk about double talk! Like I said...I did apologize and you didn't receive it....and now accuse me of not and said you didn't read it when you did!

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kennethcadwell

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I did...not my problem if you didn't receive it.....!

Actually it is your problem because you would not be following the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ if you are not coming to me directly and apologizing.
For it was Jesus who said before you stand before Him you are to go and make amends with anybody you have wronged. This is not my statement or teaching, as this is what He said, so the problem would be yours and you will have to answer for it if you do not do as Jesus said to go and make amends (apologize) to those you have wronged first before standing before Him.
 
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DesiredHaven

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ya i know.... no worries.... even if the ones preaching a false gospel don't get banned, it is more clear to see who they are now...... they react so predictably !

but no, it is not a laughing matter --- or is it? remember who GOD LAUGHS AT ? (in HIS WORD).... HE laughs at their plans and HE knows the end of them..... and they just go on and on and on and get worse every day.... instead of better..... unless they repent (like the tower of siloam and the twin towers) they will all LIKEWISE PERISH.....
I was slightly surprised at manifested that was a first to the degree in all my 25 years in Jesus Christ, and in such a swarm that I speant the day searching the internet of things I might now know about other things and "stuff"
 
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Actually it is your problem because you would not be following the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ if you are not coming to me directly and apologizing.
For it was Jesus who said before you stand before Him you are to go and make amends with anybody you have wronged. This is not my statement or teaching, as this is what He said, so the problem would be yours and you will have to answer for it if you do not do as Jesus said to go and make amends (apologize) to those you have wronged first before standing before Him.
I did apologize, you read it, made some remark about love, forgiveness and mercy so...my conscience is clear.....get your facts straight!
 
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kennethcadwell

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Really....one and only one POST...FROM YOU AFTER YOU READ IT! WOW talk about double talk! Like I said...I did apologize and you didn't receive it....and now accuse me of not and said you didn't read it when you did!

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Funny though because your post time came before mine, as I was once again in mine calling you and others out on how you talk to people. Your post was 8 minutes before mine, therefore your apology could not have been toward me, nor the other times that I personally called you out for an apology and did not receive one when I asked.

So once again instead of just saying sorry and moving on you continue to skirt around the issue and try to get out of personally apologizing as the Lord Jesus says we are to do with those we have wronged............
 
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Funny though because your post time came before mine, as I was once again in mine calling you and others out on how you talk to people. Your post was 8 minutes before mine, therefore your apology could not have been toward me, nor the other times that I personally called you out for an apology and did not receive one when I asked.

So once again instead of just saying sorry and moving on you continue to skirt around the issue and try to get out of personally apologizing as the Lord Jesus says we are to do with those we have wronged............
Look....your out of your mind....I posted an open apology for any person I had offended....you read the post 8 minutes later...made a statement about love, forgiveness and mercy...

You didn't accept it...still crying about it...and my conscience is clear....sorry if you are not mature enough to receive it...done talking with you....!

If you cant deal with it...take it to God and lump it under mercy, grace, forgiveness and unconditional LOVE!
 
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I was slightly surprised at manifested that was a first to the degree in all my 25 years in Jesus Christ, and in such a swarm that I speant the day searching the internet of things I might now know about other things and "stuff"
like i think you posted weeks ago and reposted perhaps, this forum is "the best" of many out there,
but ...
it's probably impossible to moderate it well enough to salvage it..... enjoy 'fellowship' ? or challenges for a time, as yahweh permits...

i'll send a site in pm that you can enjoy forever (literally), with no ... well >> this is very good >>
(can't share it on open forums... )
James 1:17 - Bible Gateway

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/James 1:17‎

[SUP]17[/SUP] Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the
Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
 
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kennethcadwell

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Look....your out of your mind....I posted an open apology for any person I had offended....you read the post 8 minutes later...made a statement about love, forgiveness and mercy...

You didn't accept it...still crying about it...and my conscience is clear....sorry if you are not mature enough to receive it...done talking with you....!

If you cant deal with it...take it to God and lump it under mercy, grace, forgiveness and unconditional LOVE!

I can deal with and accept an apology just fine if I believe it to be a sincere apology.

I don't however consider it sincere when a person says sorry then turns around right afterwards and continues to make those same false accusations against a person.

This works the same as with repentance in the bible, as the bible shows that if a person repents but then continues to do that same sin then that repentance was not a true Godly sorrow felt by that person leading them to confess and say they are sorry for what they have done.

You can not say your sorry then turn right around and continue to make those same false accusations, so no I do not accept an open apology like that because it was not personally made to me, nor did you stop making those false accusations afterward.

All you have to do is personally apologize to me, and then from there refrain from making those false statements on me again in the future. This would all be said and done and you would have done as Jesus commanded to make amends to one you have wronged....................So do you want to listen to Jesus, or continue to listen to your own standards ???
 
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JesusIsAll

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I also have to point out from and outsiders perspective the OSAS team comes off WAY more aggressive and more aggressive then the so called "works salvation side", who seem to use more scripture to back up there claims too BTW.
John 3:15-16 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 10:27-29
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise [never] cast out.

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Romans 11:29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

2 Corinthians 1:22 And who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

Philippians 1:6 And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

Romans 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? [the devil, deceivers] It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

1 John 5:10-13 Whoever believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. Whoever does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has borne concerning his Son. And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

1 John 5:4 For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

Romans 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

Psalm 34:22 The Lord redeems the life of his servants; none of those who take refuge in him will be condemned.

Jude 24-25 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, to the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Romans 8:38-39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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I can deal with and accept an apology just fine if I believe it to be a sincere apology.

I don't however consider it sincere when a person says sorry then turns around right afterwards and continues to make those same false accusations against a person.

This works the same as with repentance in the bible, as the bible shows that if a person repents but then continues to do that same sin then that repentance was not a true Godly sorrow felt by that person leading them to confess and say they are sorry for what they have done.

You can not say your sorry then turn right around and continue to make those same false accusations, so no I do not accept an open apology like that because it was not personally made to me, nor did you stop making those false accusations afterward.

All you have to do is personally apologize to me, and then from there refrain from making those false statements on me again in the future. This would all be said and done and you would have done as Jesus commanded to make amends to one you have wronged....................So do you want to listen to Jesus, or continue to listen to your own standards ???
You have no ability to judge motive or sincerity....show me where Jesus said to judge motive or sincerity....your last statement means nothing to me...your regularly listen to your own standard and like I said..my conscience is clear....and the HS you are not...he is the one who convicts me of sin...not the words of Kenneth!
 
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Dear DC:

I beg you to love. I beg you to be patient. Love like Jesus. Christ would not want you to act the way you are acting, my friend. Also, I might have said this to you before with Scripture, but just to let you know: "Sin is separation from God." This is very important to understand because it was why Adam and Eve needed a Savior. It's why all of mankind needs a Savior. I ask you to re-examine the Scriptures below with an open mind.


Sin
is separation from God:


Isaiah 59:2

But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Micah 3:4

Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves in an evil way in their deeds.

Ezekiel 39:23-24

And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword. According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them

Isaiah 1:15

And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Deuteronomy 31:17-18

Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them; so that they will say in that day, Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us? And I will surely hide my face in that day for all the evils which they shall have wrought, in that they are turned unto other gods.

Proverbs 1:28 CJB and Proverbs 1:29

Then they will call me, but I won’t answer; they will seek me earnestly, but they won’t find me. For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord

Isaiah 57:17 ESV

Because of the iniquity of his unjust gain I was angry, I struck him; I hid my face and was angry, but he went on backsliding in the way of his own heart.

Proverbs 15:29

The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.

Deuteronomy 32:19-20 KJ2

And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters. And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very perverse generation, children in whom is no faith.

John 9:31 ESV

We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him.

Proverbs 28:9

He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

Job 27:8-9 GNV

For what hope hath the hypocrite when he hath heaped up riches, if God take away his soul? Will God hear his cry, when trouble cometh upon him?

Zechariah 7:13 KJ2

Therefore it has come to pass that as He cried and they would not hear, so they cried and I would not hear,” saith the Lord of hosts.

Ezekiel 8:17-18 NLT

Have you seen this, son of man?” he asked. “Is it nothing to the people of Judah that they commit these detestable sins, leading the whole nation into violence, thumbing their noses at me, and provoking my anger? Therefore, I will respond in fury. I will neither pity nor spare them. And though they cry for mercy, I will not listen.

Jeremiah 14:10-12

Thus saith the Lord unto this people, Thus have they loved to wander, they have not refrained their feet, therefore the Lord doth not accept them; he will now remember their iniquity, and visit their sins. Then said the Lord unto me, Pray not for this people for their good. When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.

Isaiah 58:9 HCSB

At that time, when you call, the Lord will answer; when you cry out, He will say, ‘Here I am.’ If you get rid of the yoke among you, the finger-pointing and malicious speaking,

Proverbs 21:13

Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry himself, but shall not be heard.

Psalm 66:18

If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me

Psalm 34:15-16

The eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry. The face of the Lord is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.
 
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skylove7

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I did apologize, you read it, made some remark about love, forgiveness and mercy so...my conscience is clear.....get your facts straight!
It appears to me someone decided to take an opportunity to jump on the DC bandwagon. No one should have to apologize five thousand times,...I'm going to start apolologizing for apologizing around here, if people make me choke on things.
 
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Sirk

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Dear DC:

I beg you to love. I beg you to be patient. Love like Jesus. Christ would not want you to act the way you are acting, my friend. Also, I might have said this to you before with Scripture, but just to let you know: "Sin is separation from God." This is very important to understand because it was why Adam and Eve needed a Savior. It's why all of mankind needs a Savior. I ask you to re-examine the Scriptures below with an open mind.


Sin
is separation from God:


Isaiah 59:2

But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Micah 3:4

Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves in an evil way in their deeds.

Ezekiel 39:23-24

And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword. According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them

Isaiah 1:15

And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Deuteronomy 31:17-18

Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them; so that they will say in that day, Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us? And I will surely hide my face in that day for all the evils which they shall have wrought, in that they are turned unto other gods.

Proverbs 1:28 CJB and Proverbs 1:29

Then they will call me, but I won’t answer; they will seek me earnestly, but they won’t find me. For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord

Isaiah 57:17 ESV

Because of the iniquity of his unjust gain I was angry, I struck him; I hid my face and was angry, but he went on backsliding in the way of his own heart.

Proverbs 15:29

The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.

Deuteronomy 32:19-20 KJ2

And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters. And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very perverse generation, children in whom is no faith.

John 9:31 ESV

We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him.

Proverbs 28:9

He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

Job 27:8-9 GNV

For what hope hath the hypocrite when he hath heaped up riches, if God take away his soul? Will God hear his cry, when trouble cometh upon him?

Zechariah 7:13 KJ2

Therefore it has come to pass that as He cried and they would not hear, so they cried and I would not hear,” saith the Lord of hosts.

Ezekiel 8:17-18 NLT

Have you seen this, son of man?” he asked. “Is it nothing to the people of Judah that they commit these detestable sins, leading the whole nation into violence, thumbing their noses at me, and provoking my anger? Therefore, I will respond in fury. I will neither pity nor spare them. And though they cry for mercy, I will not listen.

Jeremiah 14:10-12

Thus saith the Lord unto this people, Thus have they loved to wander, they have not refrained their feet, therefore the Lord doth not accept them; he will now remember their iniquity, and visit their sins. Then said the Lord unto me, Pray not for this people for their good. When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.

Isaiah 58:9 HCSB

At that time, when you call, the Lord will answer; when you cry out, He will say, ‘Here I am.’ If you get rid of the yoke among you, the finger-pointing and malicious speaking,

Proverbs 21:13

Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry himself, but shall not be heard.

Psalm 66:18

If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me

Psalm 34:15-16

The eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry. The face of the Lord is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.
The fact that sin is separation from God is sunday school stuff Jason. Thats the whole reason why Jesus came, died and rose again....because there is no other path to God...none, nada, zilch...not you, not me, not anything we have ever done or will do. Jesus...thats it....a growing personal relationship with Jesus.
 
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You have no ability to judge motive or sincerity....show me where Jesus said to judge motive or sincerity....your last statement means nothing to me...your regularly listen to your own standard and like I said..my conscience is clear....and the HS you are not...he is the one who convicts me of sin...not the words of Kenneth!
you're part right - it is not in man to judge ... but rests with yahweh in yahshua, who reveals the truth to us who know him .... and you have spoken wrongly and harshly against several of those who rest in Christ Jesus and who abide in Him and have spoken HIS WORD to you to no avail.

and still as it is written it is not us nor our words that judge you, nor is it the holy spirit (or you would hopefully repent), but your own words that judge you.... (same with all the rest of us)... we all have to answer for everything we've done and said...
 
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Dear Skylove7:

Believers are to correct other believers if they are not in line with God's Word. It's not wrong to correct as long as it is done in love. For there would be no fighting amongst ourselves if we would just love each other and admit to our faults. I know I am not perfect yet. But with Christ in me, one I will be perfect as He calls me to be perfect. For it is my hope and goal of my faith so as to glorify Jesus Christ. For we are to let the love of Christ shine amongst ourselves. Love. How beautiful that is. It takes the form of God dying on a cross for us. If we could exhibit some of that love now. For love is long suffering. Jesus suffered. That was love. So to are we called to suffer in our love for God and others.

Peace be unto you all from the Lord Jesus Christ.