Adam and Eve

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ggs7

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In Genesis 2:25 and Genesis 3:10-11 the Bible says Adam and Eve were naked. Yet I have heard from people that Adam and Eve were originally clothed in light.
What is the truth?
 

Magenta

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Clothed in light? Who says that? It is not Scriptural.
 
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Gen 2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
 

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Here's a bit of truth. Adam and Hawwa. That's her Hebrew name.
 
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Clothed in light? Who says that? It is not Scriptural.
The following commentary by Chitwood[2] sheds additional light on this:

When man sinned in the garden in Eden, the complete being of man — spirit, soul, and body — became in a fallen state. God had commanded Adam concerning the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, “you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die” (Genesis 2:17). After Satan had deceived Eve into eating of the fruit of this tree, she then “gave to her husband with her; and he ate.” Immediately following this, “the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings” (Genesis 3:1-7).

At the time of the fall, Adam and Eve lost something; and it is clearly stated in Scripture that both immediately recognized this fact. That which they lost could only have been a covering of pristine glory that had previously clothed their bodies; for they, following the fall, found that they were in a twofold condition: (1) naked and (2) separated from God.

God is arrayed in a covering of “light,” connected with “honor and majesty.” And man, created in the “image” and “likeness” of God, could only have been arrayed in a similar manner prior to the fall.

Bless the LORD, O my soul! O LORD my God, You are very great: You are clothed with[You have put on] honor and majesty,

who cover Yourself with light as with a garment, who stretch out the heavens like a curtain.” (Psalm 104:1, 2)

Recognizing the loss of this covering, realizing that they were naked, explains why Adam and Eve immediately sought to clothe themselves following the fall. They tried to replace the covering that had been lost with a work of their own hands, with fig leaf aprons. And then, apparently realizing the utter inadequacy of this covering, they, in their fallen state, sought to hide from God.

God, finding Adam and Eve in this condition, completely rejected the works of their hands. God completely rejected their feeble efforts to atone for their own sin by seeking to replace the covering of pristine glory with fig leaves. Then, to bring His fallen creature back into a right relationship (although not in complete keeping with their previously unfallen state — something still future even today), God provided a covering consisting of animal skins (Genesis 3:21). This necessitated death and the shedding of blood; and herein lays basic, unchangeable truths concerning the state of fallen man and the means that are necessary to effect his redemption.

Unredeemed man is a fallen creature, alienated from God; and two things are necessary to effect his redemption: (1) divine intervention, and (2) death and shed blood. These truths have forever been set forth in the opening chapters of Genesis and can never change.

(Two different words are used for “naked” in the Hebrew text of Genesis 2:25 [before the fall] and Genesis 3:7 [after the fall]. In the latter [3:7], the word has to do with absolute nakedness, but not so in the former [2:25].

Remaining within the way a person dressed in the East at the time Moses wrote Genesis, and at later times as well, the word used relative to nakedness pertaining to Adam and Eve preceding the fall [2:25] could be used to describe a person clothed in a tunic [inner garment] but lacking the mantle or cloak [outer garment]. In the preceding respect, prior to the fall, Adam and Eve were clothed in the Glory of God but had yet to possess the regal outer garments worn by kings [fulfilling the reason for man’s creation — to rule the earth (Genesis 1:26-28)].

Then, following the fall, no longer clothed in the Glory of God, Adam and Eve were no longer in a position to be further clothed in regal garments, realizing the purpose for their creation. They, apart from the inner garment [the Glory] could not wear the outer garments [royal apparel]. Adam, prior to the fall, never wore regal garments or held the scepter. In this respect, he never moved beyond the description given in Genesis 2:25 — a “naked” condition, “naked in relation to the reason for his creation [lacking the outer regal garments].

Thus, if man, now separated from the Glory, is to ever fulfill the purpose for his creation, God must act. Redemption has to occur; and this, of necessity, has to include the complete man — spirit, soul, and body — with a view to not only a restoration of the Glory but to regality beyond this restoration.)
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Chuckt

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The question I have is, How did Adam and Eve walk in the garden with God when the Bible says:

Exodus 33:20 But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live."


1 Timothy 6:16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.

Did this covering of pristine glory protect them from the unapproachable light that God dwells in or was it a theophany of God that Adam and Eve saw?
 

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God is indwelling. So is Satan. So we walk with God when we listen to His counsel, and obey His voice. Succumbing to the voice of the enemy would be to allow ourselves to be seduced by the pride of life, and earthly desires that draw us away from God. Not all desires are evil, though. But wanting to live without God, to be God's equal and the god of your own life...
 
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In Genesis 2:25 and Genesis 3:10-11 the Bible says Adam and Eve were naked. Yet I have heard from people that Adam and Eve were originally clothed in light.
What is the truth?
Adam and Eve weren't any different than we are, they weren't perfect, they had a desire to sin, a desire to rebel, and they weren't clothed with light they were naked. In fact people today do the same thing today, they rebel and reject the word of God, accept the word of Satan and they are naked until Christ clothes them with his righteousness.
 

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God is indwelling. So is Satan. So we walk with God when we listen to His counsel, and obey His voice. Succumbing to the voice of the enemy would be to allow ourselves to be seduced by the pride of life, and earthly desires that draw us away from God. Not all desires are evil, though. But wanting to live without God, to be God's equal and the god of your own life...
:confused:

*calls an exorcist for Magenta*
 

Magenta

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:confused:

*calls an exorcist for Magenta*
Where do you battle Satan? At the gym down the street and around the corner? Or is it a spiritual battle of the reborn inner man with the body of flesh as Scripture says? Your attitude is suspect, but that is nothing new. Perhaps you should align your views more with Scripture.
 

BenFTW

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Where do you battle Satan? At the gym down the street and around the corner? Or is it a spiritual battle of the reborn inner man with the body of flesh as Scripture says? Your attitude is suspect, but that is nothing new. Perhaps you should align your views more with Scripture.
I... was... joking. o_O

PS: Satan isn't indwelling me, the Holy Spirit is.
 

Magenta

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I... was... joking. o_O

PS: Satan isn't indwelling me, the Holy Spirit is.
I don't appreciate your jokes. It isn't that I don't have a sense of humor, either, it is that you have repeatedly attacked me and pretended to know things about me when you do not know me at all. You even sent me a phony apology the other day about assuming things about me, and then ending by assuming more things about me. Just stop. If your battle with Satan is not an inner battle then why are you still walking this world? Clearly you have more work to do. Get at it, and get off my case please.
 

BenFTW

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I don't appreciate your jokes. It isn't that I don't have a sense of humor, either, it is that you have repeatedly attacked me and pretended to know things about me when you do not know me at all. You even sent me a phony apology the other day about assuming things about me, and then ending by assuming more things about me. Just stop. If your battle with Satan is not an inner battle then why are you still walking this world? Clearly you have more work to do. Get at it, and get off my case please.
I don't know where you get off saying I am attacking you and/or assuming things about you. Neither did I apologize for assumptions but that if I antagonized you I was sorry. It wasn't phony. You're getting really personal and if it happens again I am going to report you. Lately you've been prideful and talking down to people, including me. I don't appreciate that.
 
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FreeNChrist

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God is indwelling. So is Satan. So we walk with God when we listen to His counsel, and obey His voice. Succumbing to the voice of the enemy would be to allow ourselves to be seduced by the pride of life, and earthly desires that draw us away from God. Not all desires are evil, though. But wanting to live without God, to be God's equal and the god of your own life...

Are are you saying that Satan indwells Christians?
 
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In Genesis 2:25 and Genesis 3:10-11 the Bible says Adam and Eve were naked. Yet I have heard from people that Adam and Eve were originally clothed in light.
What is the truth?
I've never heard that Adam and Eve were clothed in light, and even now that I've heard it, I don't know what it means. It occurs to me that when the Bible says Adam and Eve were naked, it might me that they were without pretense. They had not sinned yet, so they had nothing to hide. That would soon change.
 

Magenta

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I don't know where you get off saying I am attacking you and/or assuming things about you. Neither did I apologize for assumptions but that if I antagonized you I was sorry. It wasn't phony. You're getting really personal and if it happens again I am going to report you. Lately you've been prideful and talking down to people, including me. I don't appreciate that.
LOL. You come against me often in your responses to me and you are going to report me for objecting to your making assumptions about me? LOLOLOL. That must be your pride talking. And yes, I have asked you to stop assuming you know me multiple times, so your "apology" that made more assumptions about me comes across as being totally phony to me, sorry! Just stop.
 
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In Genesis 2:25 and Genesis 3:10-11 the Bible says Adam and Eve were naked. Yet I have heard from people that Adam and Eve were originally clothed in light.
What is the truth?
God made Adam and Eve in His image,and Adam and Eve were not clothed in light,for Jesus was not clothed in light,although He is the light of the world,but appeared as you and me,for the Bible portrays Him as an ordinary looking man(Isaiah chapter 53.

In the Old Testament it says God made Adam in His image.

In the New Testament it says Adam was made in the image of Christ.

The image of God,is the image of Christ,for Jesus is God manifest in the flesh.

The Bible says God calls things that have not yet happened,as though they already happened,which everything was already planned out in the beginning.

God had the plan to show up in the future in flesh,which is the Word was in the beginning,before He created Adam,and created Adam in the image that He would show up in the future,which is an innocent nature,in flesh,although Adam lost that image when he sinned.

Jesus did not dwell on this earth clothed in light,for He appeared as an ordinary looking man,and Adam was made in His Christ's image,so Adam and Eve were not clothed in light.

If Christ was clothed in light,He would of had a greater impact on Israel.

The image of God is an innocent nature,in flesh,which you receive when you are led of the Holy Spirit,and we are not clothed in light,for if are sins are forgiven,and if led of the Spirit you will not fulfill the desires of the flesh,then if Adam and Eve when they were created,before the fall,were clothed in light,then by reason everyone that is led of the Spirit,should be clothed in light.