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, i personally could care less if they r real or not long as they leave me alone i leave them alone
M
Wrong, fallen angels who left their heavenly habitation and put on earthly robes, or bodies, did indeed come down to earth, in a physical form, and this doctrine was changes in the sixth century because Christians were made fun of for it. Because of this change in doctrine an entire gereration has been set up for failure for the time when real flesh and blood "aliens" do show up, and many shall be decieved because of it. Maybe that's why Rev 22:19 says what it says.... look what happens when men change the words of God.
Gen 6:4 And there were Nephilim (giants) in the land in those days: and also after that, when the SONS OF GOD (((refers to fallen angels))) came unto the daughters of men, and bare children to them, the same became the mighty men of old, men of reknown.
2 Peter 2:4-5 and Jude 6-7 confirm this view.
Hercules, Achilles... half man half god... sound familiar. Maybe there was a grain of truth to all these old "myths".
That's part of the reason for the flood, it wasn't just sin... if that were the case we'd all be in trouble. It was also to protect the messianic bloodline from corruption.
There is one view, called the line of Seth view, but it doesn't hold water. It says that it is speaking of the sons of Seth and the daughters of Cain, but put simply Seth was not God and Cain was not Adam. To support this view is the change the text. Not a good idea.
Gen 6:4 And there were Nephilim (giants) in the land in those days: and also after that, when the SONS OF GOD (((refers to fallen angels))) came unto the daughters of men, and bare children to them, the same became the mighty men of old, men of reknown.
2 Peter 2:4-5 and Jude 6-7 confirm this view.
Hercules, Achilles... half man half god... sound familiar. Maybe there was a grain of truth to all these old "myths".
That's part of the reason for the flood, it wasn't just sin... if that were the case we'd all be in trouble. It was also to protect the messianic bloodline from corruption.
There is one view, called the line of Seth view, but it doesn't hold water. It says that it is speaking of the sons of Seth and the daughters of Cain, but put simply Seth was not God and Cain was not Adam. To support this view is the change the text. Not a good idea.
M
Ya'll don't be surprised when you see them, and also don't lose your faith because of it. It was written about looooooong ago, but men changed the meaning of the word of God, and in doing so will cause many to be led astray.
Also in Daniel 2:43 it says... And wherest thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, THEY shall mingle themselves WITH THE SEED of MEN; but they shall not cleave to one another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
If THEY mingle themselves with the seed of men, they obviously can't be the seed of men, or else they wouldn't be mingling... this could refer to cloning and other genetic manipulations, as well. But I don't think it's wise to count "aliens" out of the picture, can you imagine a better deception than that for the end times?
Also in Daniel 2:43 it says... And wherest thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, THEY shall mingle themselves WITH THE SEED of MEN; but they shall not cleave to one another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
If THEY mingle themselves with the seed of men, they obviously can't be the seed of men, or else they wouldn't be mingling... this could refer to cloning and other genetic manipulations, as well. But I don't think it's wise to count "aliens" out of the picture, can you imagine a better deception than that for the end times?
M
I don't know about other planets, I doubt they're from other planets. Probably something extradimensional, but there is something. The Word says it plainly. OK, not so plainly, but with the Hebrew and Greek translations handy it paints a pretty clear picture. Don't be surprised..... they're out there, mannnn. They're just not what people think they are
B
From your point of view then.
If it was also to protect the messianic bloodline from corruption... then why were there giants in the earth after the Flood as in the case of Goliath?
Genesis 6:There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Jesus said that angels are not marrying nor given in marriage. Do you believe that or not? How can the sons of God take the daughters of men to where they can be called wives then? I guarantee you that no matter if same sex marriage is legalized, God does not see them as one flesh to be called husband and wife. Neither would He have His word call those women wives for He would not join them together to be called wives in His Word. Jesus meant what He said. Angels were not created to marry nor given in marriage. God would not unite them. Read verse 1 with verse 2, and yet what was the Lord's reaction to this below?
Genesis 6: 1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Another point is that out of this union, they are still considered man. Not hybrids. Not giants in the way that they cease to be man; they were men of renown. And it was not the result of this offspring that God promounced judgment, but on the wickedness of man overall.
Genesis 6: 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
What? The Nephilium got left out? No. The giants were just of man as any man was.
The sons of God is a reference for the lineage of where God's chosen people would refer to in the Bible as they being of the promise where the seed would come as salvation is of the Jews. In other words, the question as to what happened to all the others of their lineage has been explained as to why only Noah of their lineage survived.
Genesis 4:25And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
Luke 3:38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
John 4:21Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
The sons of God were presenting themselves to the Lord for what if they were fallen angels?
Why would God reference Noah from this presentation unless he was among them?
How could the sons of God be fallen angels when they took wives and still be called the sons of God?
How could God set the order in His creation that kind can only reproduce after their own kind where man cannot reproduce with animals if fallen angels or angels can reproduce with mankind?
Is it not written that some shall depart from the truth and give heed to fables? Then the mythologies of man should be enough to defer this fable as well to be of man.
If it was also to protect the messianic bloodline from corruption... then why were there giants in the earth after the Flood as in the case of Goliath?
Genesis 6:There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Jesus said that angels are not marrying nor given in marriage. Do you believe that or not? How can the sons of God take the daughters of men to where they can be called wives then? I guarantee you that no matter if same sex marriage is legalized, God does not see them as one flesh to be called husband and wife. Neither would He have His word call those women wives for He would not join them together to be called wives in His Word. Jesus meant what He said. Angels were not created to marry nor given in marriage. God would not unite them. Read verse 1 with verse 2, and yet what was the Lord's reaction to this below?
Genesis 6: 1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Another point is that out of this union, they are still considered man. Not hybrids. Not giants in the way that they cease to be man; they were men of renown. And it was not the result of this offspring that God promounced judgment, but on the wickedness of man overall.
Genesis 6: 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
What? The Nephilium got left out? No. The giants were just of man as any man was.
The sons of God is a reference for the lineage of where God's chosen people would refer to in the Bible as they being of the promise where the seed would come as salvation is of the Jews. In other words, the question as to what happened to all the others of their lineage has been explained as to why only Noah of their lineage survived.
Genesis 4:25And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
Luke 3:38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
John 4:21Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
The sons of God were presenting themselves to the Lord for what if they were fallen angels?
Why would God reference Noah from this presentation unless he was among them?
How could the sons of God be fallen angels when they took wives and still be called the sons of God?
How could God set the order in His creation that kind can only reproduce after their own kind where man cannot reproduce with animals if fallen angels or angels can reproduce with mankind?
Is it not written that some shall depart from the truth and give heed to fables? Then the mythologies of man should be enough to defer this fable as well to be of man.
M
First of all, most of this research is not my own, but that of Dr. Chuck Missler. I can't take credit, although I would love to. I recommend his books for those who want a line by line exegesis of biblical text. Truly, he is an amazing author and teacher. For this topic look at Alien Encounters by Missler and Eastman. Then look at the bible. Please believe that this is important to me and I've checked every one of his claims. They are all accurate, and they are mindblowing.
Give this a chance and study before anyone comes attacking me. You have to look deep at original translations, but it's there in black and white. I recommend a strongs or some other concordance.
Secondly, I believe that these beings are evil and of satan. I don't ascribe to myths... I'm simply saying that they probably are more than just myths. Almost all of the ancient cultures spoke of star people, or watchers from the sky, and had demigod stories. Where did those stories come from? Why are they the same all over the world (except the monotheistic religions that come from Abraham)? These incidences don't rebut the bible, they confirm it. But only if you prayerfully and carefully read the text and not what some professor or preacher regurgitates to you, like the line of Seth theory which came about in the fifth (not 6th, sorry) century when Julian the apostate and Celsus attacked the TRADITIONAL angel view held by Jews and Christians alike, so Julius Africanus changed it and made up some nonsense about Seth. It was follewed by Cyril of Alexandria and Augustine, so it stuck, all because somebody was afraid to stick up for his Word. Now almost all Christians are set up for failure when "aliens" do show up.
Thirdly, the increase in reported UFO activity is staggering. Astronauts report UFO encounters, as do NASA directors. These are not nutjobs, these are serious people. What are they seeing? What is happening to people during these abductions? If they are not being abducted, then what IS happening to them? The accounts are very specific and much too common to throw out the window without so much as a glance.
Matt 24:24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
I have seen and read much, but nothing has been able to take me away from my belief in the bible as the inerrant word of God, and that Jesus is the Christ come to save us. But imagine, if you would, seeing an "invasion" of otherworldly beings, in the flesh, "aliens" that come and tell us that they were the ones who wrote all of the holy books to guide human behaviour and that we as a species have failed because we're so violent and consume so much. Would that shake your faith? Look deep and be honest with yourself. Would "aliens" shake your faith? It would mine, if I didn't know that God had warned us of them in Genesis, and that they are not interplanetary beings at all, but fallen angels sent by satan to decieve.
As for the angels marrying...
Mark 12:25 For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
You're right, the angels in heaven do not marry. There is no need, as the next verse points out.
Luke 20:35-36 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Sons of God are angels or resurrected people. There is no other use for the term in the bible.
They're immortal, why should they marry... no procreation.
Because they're not in heaven.
Jude 6-7 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
The word habitation is oiketerion, it means 1. dwelling place, habitation a)the body as the dwelling place of the spirit. The angels Jude is reffering to have left their heavenly habitation. He also compares them to Sodom and Gommorah, in both being punished and going after strange flesh.
Once they left their heavenly body there is no telling what an angel is capable of. They can manifest physically, and are capable of physical combat. 185,000 Syrians could tell you that if an angel hadnt killed them all, and so could the first-born of Egypt.
And who said they married or had sex with them them anyway? I worked in a genetics lab, people are capable of astonishing feats in science..Dolly???? Clones??? wouldn't a fallen angel have much more knowledge that a human? That being said, the phrase came in unto them pretty much says it all.
2 Peter 2:4-5 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell (Tartarus), and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
Again, sinning angels tied in with a passage of Noah being spared.
Tartarus is the dark abode of woe, the name of the subterranean region, doleful and dark, regarded by the ancient Greeks as the abode of the wicked dead, where they suffer punishment for their evil deeds; it answers to Gehenna of the Jews (blue letter bible)
The same place that he sent the fallen angels in Jude
Matthew. 24:37
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Jesus is telling His disciples what it would be like before His return. He tells them explicitly that people would not be watching and would be continuing with life as usual, but I believe that He's also hinting at something else. He tells us to look deeper, so we must find out what the days of Noah were like.
Back to Genesis
Genesis 6 1-10And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
First of all, sons of God...
In the OT the term sons of God refers to angels, and only angels, as seen in Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7, and in the NT Jesus refers to resurrected believers as sons of God. In the natural you and I aren't sons of God, we are sons of our father and mother. When we're resurrected we become sons of God.
The phrase daughters of men in hebrew is benoth ADAM, daughters of Adam, or daughters of men.
The sons of God, (not sons of Seth) who were fallen angels, took wives of them all they chose.
There were giants in the land in those days....Nephilim. Nephilim were six fingered giants with double rows of teeth. The word comes from the root nephal, means to fall, to fall down. In the greek septuagint the word is gigas, which means earth born. Also called Hag Gibborim in Hebrew, the mighty ones, hero, chief man.
There were giants in the land in those days: and also after that when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men and bare children to them.
If you take the words literally in their original languages then it is self explanatory and beyond argument. Fallen, earth born giants that came from the union of sons of God with the daughters of men.
Now, to Noah...Noah found favor in the sight of the Lord. God was going to kill everyone and everything, but Noah found favor and God spared him. He was righteous, but there's something else.
In speaking of Noah's generations (the same word appears twice in the sentence with defferent meanings), the first time it is written it is speaking of Noah's geneology. His geneology was perfect
the word perfect is tamiym, it means complete, whole, entire, sound, without blemish, upright, without spot. His geneology was without spot or impairment.
The second use of the word generations refers to the age in which he lived, but in strongs it also refers to geneology. Then he goes on to mention Noah's children, so it is possible that God was reffering to Noah's sons as being perfect, but since no man is without sin and Ham looked upon his fathers nakedness and was cursed I don't agree with that view. I believe that his previous generations were not marred with this mix of nephilim blood. He was just and his blood was clean, so he could be spared the flood.
In any case my statement of an attack on the messianic line deserves scrutiny and study. Satan make many attacks on the messianic line. Moses being put into a basket in the river because of the campaign against babies would be an example. Where would Israel be without Moses? Putting nephilim in the land of Canaan and causing the Israelites to wander for 38 years would be an example. Where would Jesus be without Israel? There's a history of satan trying to mess up God's plan and the Lord turning it around on him. Herod killing off all the babies under two years of age.... the people trying to throw Jesus off of a cliff.... More examples of satanic meddling. The cross.... in causing Judas to betray Jesus satan actually signed off on his own imprisonment when the fulfilled messiah returns. Jesus could not have been our messiah had satan not entered Judas, but thank God the scriptures were fulfilled.
As far as the case of Goliath being a nephilim and giants being on the earth also after that, if the fallen angels cohabited with women somehow before, why could they not do it again? They're angels, they didn't die in the flood. Jude did not specify when they were cast down to Tartarus. Did satan give up? Also, did you notice that demons are never mentioned before the flood? Angels can physically appear, but demons need to embody someone. Where did they come from? After the flood demons showed up, after the nephilim were killed off. Do they have souls? Interesting coincidence, and would explain demons, wandering spirits not eligible for the resurrection because they are not eligible for resurrection because they are unnatural offspring. That is a guess, but a plausible one I think. I'll look for that answer.
And why would Joshua be commanded to destroy man, woman and child from the tribes of Canaan? Canaanites were Nephilim. Seems harsh to me, but if they were not part of God's original creation but were brought about by satanic mischeif then it makes sense to destroy them completely.
Also, the verse in Daniel 2:43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
They is plural, it can't be satan because he's just one angel. It must be several of something. I think that the prophet Daniel is telling us that in the last days in the last kingdom before Christ comes back to rule, otherworldly powers(other than demons), will be partly in power of the earth, or that the leaders will be a mix of this fallen angel blood and human blood. Who will mingle themself with the seed of men? They can't be the seed of men if they're mingling with it, so who are they?
"aliens" don't debunk the bible, the bible debunks "aliens", and tells us what they really are, angels that left heaven with satan, became physical beings, and somehow made unnatural offspring with human women, resulting in the nephilim. Instead of trying to make me and others that believe the word for what it says maybe we should all be telling the UFO loving public about who their beloved "aliens" really are, and who they should serve before it's too late.
Give this a chance and study before anyone comes attacking me. You have to look deep at original translations, but it's there in black and white. I recommend a strongs or some other concordance.
Secondly, I believe that these beings are evil and of satan. I don't ascribe to myths... I'm simply saying that they probably are more than just myths. Almost all of the ancient cultures spoke of star people, or watchers from the sky, and had demigod stories. Where did those stories come from? Why are they the same all over the world (except the monotheistic religions that come from Abraham)? These incidences don't rebut the bible, they confirm it. But only if you prayerfully and carefully read the text and not what some professor or preacher regurgitates to you, like the line of Seth theory which came about in the fifth (not 6th, sorry) century when Julian the apostate and Celsus attacked the TRADITIONAL angel view held by Jews and Christians alike, so Julius Africanus changed it and made up some nonsense about Seth. It was follewed by Cyril of Alexandria and Augustine, so it stuck, all because somebody was afraid to stick up for his Word. Now almost all Christians are set up for failure when "aliens" do show up.
Thirdly, the increase in reported UFO activity is staggering. Astronauts report UFO encounters, as do NASA directors. These are not nutjobs, these are serious people. What are they seeing? What is happening to people during these abductions? If they are not being abducted, then what IS happening to them? The accounts are very specific and much too common to throw out the window without so much as a glance.
Matt 24:24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
I have seen and read much, but nothing has been able to take me away from my belief in the bible as the inerrant word of God, and that Jesus is the Christ come to save us. But imagine, if you would, seeing an "invasion" of otherworldly beings, in the flesh, "aliens" that come and tell us that they were the ones who wrote all of the holy books to guide human behaviour and that we as a species have failed because we're so violent and consume so much. Would that shake your faith? Look deep and be honest with yourself. Would "aliens" shake your faith? It would mine, if I didn't know that God had warned us of them in Genesis, and that they are not interplanetary beings at all, but fallen angels sent by satan to decieve.
As for the angels marrying...
Mark 12:25 For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
You're right, the angels in heaven do not marry. There is no need, as the next verse points out.
Luke 20:35-36 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Sons of God are angels or resurrected people. There is no other use for the term in the bible.
They're immortal, why should they marry... no procreation.
Because they're not in heaven.
Jude 6-7 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
The word habitation is oiketerion, it means 1. dwelling place, habitation a)the body as the dwelling place of the spirit. The angels Jude is reffering to have left their heavenly habitation. He also compares them to Sodom and Gommorah, in both being punished and going after strange flesh.
Once they left their heavenly body there is no telling what an angel is capable of. They can manifest physically, and are capable of physical combat. 185,000 Syrians could tell you that if an angel hadnt killed them all, and so could the first-born of Egypt.
And who said they married or had sex with them them anyway? I worked in a genetics lab, people are capable of astonishing feats in science..Dolly???? Clones??? wouldn't a fallen angel have much more knowledge that a human? That being said, the phrase came in unto them pretty much says it all.
2 Peter 2:4-5 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell (Tartarus), and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
Again, sinning angels tied in with a passage of Noah being spared.
Tartarus is the dark abode of woe, the name of the subterranean region, doleful and dark, regarded by the ancient Greeks as the abode of the wicked dead, where they suffer punishment for their evil deeds; it answers to Gehenna of the Jews (blue letter bible)
The same place that he sent the fallen angels in Jude
Matthew. 24:37
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Jesus is telling His disciples what it would be like before His return. He tells them explicitly that people would not be watching and would be continuing with life as usual, but I believe that He's also hinting at something else. He tells us to look deeper, so we must find out what the days of Noah were like.
Back to Genesis
Genesis 6 1-10And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
First of all, sons of God...
In the OT the term sons of God refers to angels, and only angels, as seen in Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7, and in the NT Jesus refers to resurrected believers as sons of God. In the natural you and I aren't sons of God, we are sons of our father and mother. When we're resurrected we become sons of God.
The phrase daughters of men in hebrew is benoth ADAM, daughters of Adam, or daughters of men.
The sons of God, (not sons of Seth) who were fallen angels, took wives of them all they chose.
There were giants in the land in those days....Nephilim. Nephilim were six fingered giants with double rows of teeth. The word comes from the root nephal, means to fall, to fall down. In the greek septuagint the word is gigas, which means earth born. Also called Hag Gibborim in Hebrew, the mighty ones, hero, chief man.
There were giants in the land in those days: and also after that when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men and bare children to them.
If you take the words literally in their original languages then it is self explanatory and beyond argument. Fallen, earth born giants that came from the union of sons of God with the daughters of men.
Now, to Noah...Noah found favor in the sight of the Lord. God was going to kill everyone and everything, but Noah found favor and God spared him. He was righteous, but there's something else.
In speaking of Noah's generations (the same word appears twice in the sentence with defferent meanings), the first time it is written it is speaking of Noah's geneology. His geneology was perfect
the word perfect is tamiym, it means complete, whole, entire, sound, without blemish, upright, without spot. His geneology was without spot or impairment.
The second use of the word generations refers to the age in which he lived, but in strongs it also refers to geneology. Then he goes on to mention Noah's children, so it is possible that God was reffering to Noah's sons as being perfect, but since no man is without sin and Ham looked upon his fathers nakedness and was cursed I don't agree with that view. I believe that his previous generations were not marred with this mix of nephilim blood. He was just and his blood was clean, so he could be spared the flood.
In any case my statement of an attack on the messianic line deserves scrutiny and study. Satan make many attacks on the messianic line. Moses being put into a basket in the river because of the campaign against babies would be an example. Where would Israel be without Moses? Putting nephilim in the land of Canaan and causing the Israelites to wander for 38 years would be an example. Where would Jesus be without Israel? There's a history of satan trying to mess up God's plan and the Lord turning it around on him. Herod killing off all the babies under two years of age.... the people trying to throw Jesus off of a cliff.... More examples of satanic meddling. The cross.... in causing Judas to betray Jesus satan actually signed off on his own imprisonment when the fulfilled messiah returns. Jesus could not have been our messiah had satan not entered Judas, but thank God the scriptures were fulfilled.
As far as the case of Goliath being a nephilim and giants being on the earth also after that, if the fallen angels cohabited with women somehow before, why could they not do it again? They're angels, they didn't die in the flood. Jude did not specify when they were cast down to Tartarus. Did satan give up? Also, did you notice that demons are never mentioned before the flood? Angels can physically appear, but demons need to embody someone. Where did they come from? After the flood demons showed up, after the nephilim were killed off. Do they have souls? Interesting coincidence, and would explain demons, wandering spirits not eligible for the resurrection because they are not eligible for resurrection because they are unnatural offspring. That is a guess, but a plausible one I think. I'll look for that answer.
And why would Joshua be commanded to destroy man, woman and child from the tribes of Canaan? Canaanites were Nephilim. Seems harsh to me, but if they were not part of God's original creation but were brought about by satanic mischeif then it makes sense to destroy them completely.
Also, the verse in Daniel 2:43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
They is plural, it can't be satan because he's just one angel. It must be several of something. I think that the prophet Daniel is telling us that in the last days in the last kingdom before Christ comes back to rule, otherworldly powers(other than demons), will be partly in power of the earth, or that the leaders will be a mix of this fallen angel blood and human blood. Who will mingle themself with the seed of men? They can't be the seed of men if they're mingling with it, so who are they?
"aliens" don't debunk the bible, the bible debunks "aliens", and tells us what they really are, angels that left heaven with satan, became physical beings, and somehow made unnatural offspring with human women, resulting in the nephilim. Instead of trying to make me and others that believe the word for what it says maybe we should all be telling the UFO loving public about who their beloved "aliens" really are, and who they should serve before it's too late.
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The sons of God is a reference for the lineage of where God's chosen people would refer to in the Bible as they being of the promise where the seed would come as salvation is of the Jews.
No, it's not. That promise went to Abraham, long after Noah. There was no Israel or any Israelites in the days of Noah.
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Angels
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
Angels
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Angels
Luke 20:35-36 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Resurrected humans, and angels.
There are no other uses of this phrase in the bible. Adam, angels, and resurrected believers. That's it.
No, it's not. That promise went to Abraham, long after Noah. There was no Israel or any Israelites in the days of Noah.
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Angels
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
Angels
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Angels
Luke 20:35-36 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Resurrected humans, and angels.
There are no other uses of this phrase in the bible. Adam, angels, and resurrected believers. That's it.
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