"All Have sinned," really?

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Journeyman

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Could you give me a passage there with?
Sure. Begin in Romans 1 and continue reading Romans until Paul says, "all have sinned". It should become apparent to you that Paul is talking about people who have the capacity to understand and that he doesn't mean every individual on earth.
 
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Sure. Begin in Romans 1 and continue reading Romans until Paul says, "all have sinned". It should become apparent to you that Paul is talking about people who have the capacity to understand and that he doesn't mean every individual on earth.
O really well he would have to read all the way to romans 3, for all have sinned and fall short.
 

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do you got any examples of Christians saying exactly that everyone on earth is worthy of death?
People who adhere to T.U.L.I.P. believe it. I won't direct you to any particular site, as you can investigate the matter for yourself, but you will be wasting your time.
 

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O really well he would have to read all the way to romans 3, for all have sinned and fall short.
Yes, a few short chapters where the law for Jews and conscience for gentiles is what brings condemnation.
 
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Romans 3 is a good study

22And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
If one was to continue to read Paul goes on to explain that statement in romans 3 in romans 5

12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned
 

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What do you believe is the age of accountability? Is there biblical scripture to support an age of accountability?
It varies in the individual.
As would pertain to children and newborns being free of sin there is this:
The Book of Matthew chapter 19:14
But Jesus said, "Let the children alone, and do not hinder them from coming to Me; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

As pertains to age of accountability, The Book of James chapter 4:17, "Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin."
 
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Scripture? That states that word for word please.
maybe he be talking about 1 cor 15

42 So also in the reviviscence of the dead. They are sown in corruption, they arise without corruption:
43 they are sown in dishonor, they arise in glory: they are sown in weakness, they arise in power:
44 it is sown an animal body, it ariseth a spiritual body. For there is a body of the animal life, and there is a body of the spirit.
 
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many have been first to live a full life though many have been last to live a full life
 

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maybe he be talking about 1 cor 15

42 So also in the reviviscence of the dead. They are sown in corruption, they arise without corruption:
43 they are sown in dishonor, they arise in glory: they are sown in weakness, they arise in power:
44 it is sown an animal body, it ariseth a spiritual body. For there is a body of the animal life, and there is a body of the spirit.
No, that is not as I asked them to provide, the word for word scripture that states what they claimed about babies that have cancer. (Re-posted here for reference:"Babies born under the law are born into a corrupted cancer prone bodies body that in the end die. The wrath of God revealed from heaven. " )

Those verses you shared there pertain to the resurrection of the body.
https://beta.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+corinthians+15&version=ESV
 
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No, that is not as I asked them to provide, the word for word scripture that states what they claimed about babies that have cancer. (Re-posted here for reference:"Babies born under the law are born into a corrupted cancer prone bodies body that in the end die. The wrath of God revealed from heaven. " )

Those verses you shared there pertain to the resurrection of the body.
https://beta.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+corinthians+15&version=ESV
I know garee is different in the way he is expressing.

And what I posted also talks about the equivalent to by one man
 
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What he's expressing I dare say is not to be found anywhere in scripture. Thank God.
all I can say is discease can happen to anyone in this world, not sure if that is written but its pretty much a reality
 

Magenta

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all I can say is discease can happen to anyone in this world, not sure if that is written but its pretty much a reality
Scripture does bear this out: All of creation is in bondage to decay... so saying babies are born into disease prone bodies is hardly questionable (not that you questioned it ;))
Because of the sin of mankind, Adam and Eve that caused the corruption, all mankind with no description of age are born without any hope or God.
Garee, Adam alone was held responsible for the fall of mankind: sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin.
 
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What do you believe is the age of accountability? Is there biblical scripture to support an age of accountability?
Paul does not really give us an age but in the "Jewish" faith the age is around 12 or 13 when they become a teenager. "When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me." (1cor13:11)
 
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Numbers 14:18 King James Version (KJV)

18 The Lord is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.


The Sins of the Fathers is visited upon the children! The vilest of Sins committed are often hidden from other men and cannot be hidden from Elohim/God, as Elohim/God sees all things. Mental and Physical Diseases are the product of Sin.
 
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Scripture does bear this out: All of creation is in bondage to decay... so saying babies are born into disease prone bodies is hardly questionable (not that you questioned it ;))
Garee, Adam alone was held responsible for the fall of mankind:
sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin.
It was imputed to Adam and not Eve in regard to Adam representing the head of mankind. But it entered in regard to the letter of the law.
 
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Scripture does bear this out: All of creation is in bondage to decay... so saying babies are born into disease prone bodies is hardly questionable (not that you questioned it ;))
Right even though it’s rare like about 1 in 12,000 the most common of the type is neuroblastoma
 

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I thank everyone who has replied to this thread. You have given me much food for thought and reason to arrive at my own understanding. I understand that planet earth is spinning through the universe condemned and cursed by the original sin of Man’s disobedience to God and all are under the curse of their fathers sins. I believe that the biblical verse “all have sinned,” simply defines all of earth’s inhabitants are exposed without exception to the sinful nature of a cursed and condemned earth and all will be accountable for their sins as they reach an age of accountability as determined individually by our maker and none can or will avoid sin because man has made sin “natural” to the planet earth. Only Jesus the Christ can and will redeem his believers from sin in accordance with their faith and belief. By my faith I accept and understand this belief and will abide by it faithfully until I’m otherwise given a different understanding.