Allegory of the 2 Covenants Galatians 4:22-30
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All of these are direct correlations where one thing gets reversed for the second.
In order to make the thing below match the things above, you have Egypt becoming Ishmael just because he married an Egyptian?
It just doesn't work.
Egypt doesn't become Ishmael, and Ishmael taking second place, just because Ishmael married an Egyptian.
Your theory would work if Ishmael was the father of all Egyptians, possibly, but he's not.
He simply married an Egyptian woman.
In your valid examples of the second becoming first, each thing is a direct relation to the other.
In your invalid example, the second thing is ram rodded in due to a weak link of Ishmael marrying an Egyptian.
In order to make the thing below match the things above, you have Egypt becoming Ishmael just because he married an Egyptian?
It just doesn't work.
Egypt doesn't become Ishmael, and Ishmael taking second place, just because Ishmael married an Egyptian.
Your theory would work if Ishmael was the father of all Egyptians, possibly, but he's not.
He simply married an Egyptian woman.
In your valid examples of the second becoming first, each thing is a direct relation to the other.
In your invalid example, the second thing is ram rodded in due to a weak link of Ishmael marrying an Egyptian.
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In relation, Ishmael is mentioned concerning the ways of the world as Egypt is the example of the world being the *natural. That's where Ishmael went not that he is the founder of Egypt i.e the world. I mentioned him to substantiate a difference between him and Isaac who were offspring of Hagar and Sarah. Sarah and Isaac are equated as the second and Hagar and Ishmael are equated with the first. This can also be compared with the first and second Adam.
The flesh or natural is first and the spiritual is thereafter. Again the allegory is Hagar bore Abraham Ishmael which was his first son. Sarah bore Isaac which was he second son, and to him was the promise given. The law came first and salvation through Christ came second. Hagar doesn't represent the law, she represents what is first in allegory of the law coming first. Sarah was the mother of the promise through Isaac. Hagar was not the mother of the promise through Ishmael.
Here is another example of Paul's in 1 Corinthians 15:40-50 considering what comes first and what follows.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is *natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
The flesh or natural is first and the spiritual is thereafter. Again the allegory is Hagar bore Abraham Ishmael which was his first son. Sarah bore Isaac which was he second son, and to him was the promise given. The law came first and salvation through Christ came second. Hagar doesn't represent the law, she represents what is first in allegory of the law coming first. Sarah was the mother of the promise through Isaac. Hagar was not the mother of the promise through Ishmael.
Here is another example of Paul's in 1 Corinthians 15:40-50 considering what comes first and what follows.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is *natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
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You can't make Ishmael=Egypt.
You try smuggling these in to make that point, but that point doesn't work because the reasoning is a HUGE stretch.
You seem to be trying to bring us back under the law by trying to draw a distinction between analogy and allegory.
That distinction doesn't make the fact that everything associated with the Sinai covenant is being told to be cast out, otherwise we come into bondage to it.
The very flow of thought that surrounds the allegory points to the children being set free from the first covenant which is a containing tutor, so we can live in the freedom of the second covenant with life in the Spirit.
This battle has been going on for thousands of years now.
Those trying to find freedom in the law, and those finding freedom in the gospel, realizing the law pointed to the freedom of the gospel.
I'm not going to sit under the bondwoman.
You try smuggling these in to make that point, but that point doesn't work because the reasoning is a HUGE stretch.
You seem to be trying to bring us back under the law by trying to draw a distinction between analogy and allegory.
That distinction doesn't make the fact that everything associated with the Sinai covenant is being told to be cast out, otherwise we come into bondage to it.
The very flow of thought that surrounds the allegory points to the children being set free from the first covenant which is a containing tutor, so we can live in the freedom of the second covenant with life in the Spirit.
This battle has been going on for thousands of years now.
Those trying to find freedom in the law, and those finding freedom in the gospel, realizing the law pointed to the freedom of the gospel.
I'm not going to sit under the bondwoman.
I'm talking the law that is contained in the covenant. I'm not endorsing to follow the old covenant. There is a difference. No one is asking you to sit under the law. James says "Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up." James 4:10
Under the viewpoint you have, these Scriptures contradict one another. Of course you may think all is fulfilled even though heaven and earth are still remain intact.
And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. Luke 16:17
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18
Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. Genesis 21:10
Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. Galatians 4:30
With the description that Paul is truly referring to, my endorsement that I have given to you relates to all scriptures given here. Further, if the law had been cast out as you say related to Hagar, then Paul would have never said this.
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid : yea, we establish the law. Romans 3:31
But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: Acts 24:14
Under the viewpoint you have, these Scriptures contradict one another. Of course you may think all is fulfilled even though heaven and earth are still remain intact.
And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. Luke 16:17
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18
Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. Genesis 21:10
Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. Galatians 4:30
With the description that Paul is truly referring to, my endorsement that I have given to you relates to all scriptures given here. Further, if the law had been cast out as you say related to Hagar, then Paul would have never said this.
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid : yea, we establish the law. Romans 3:31
But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: Acts 24:14
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Yes it's upheld because Jesus lived a perfect life and upheld it, and our faith receives that gift he gave by living a perfect life.
Of course we believe everything written in the law and prophets. They're the tutor pointing us to Jesus.
But we're not under the tutor now.
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29 But as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so it is now also.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of a bondwoman, [w]but of the free woman.
Of course we believe everything written in the law and prophets. They're the tutor pointing us to Jesus.
But we're not under the tutor now.
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29 But as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so it is now also.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of a bondwoman, [w]but of the free woman.
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Colossians 2:14-17King James Version (KJV)
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
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the ten commandment law which was written by the finger of God on two tables of stone; and then also the book of the law which was dictated by the word of the Lord unto Moses and then Moses wrote them down in a book. In Exodus chapter 31 and verse 18 the Bible says:
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
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the ten commandment law which was written by the finger of God on two tables of stone; and then also the book of the law which was dictated by the word of the Lord unto Moses and then Moses wrote them down in a book. In Exodus chapter 31 and verse 18 the Bible says:
I never endorsed being under the tutor, you assumed that I was. LOL
What I'm saying, and I aways will, is that the Spiritual principles of the first have not been cast away, it wasn't complete, and God never intended it to be complete. They just came first for God's Holy purpose to be accomplished according to the love He has for us. When we have the indwelling Spirit of God we understand that the law is still holy, just and good the same as Paul.
Romans 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Romans 8:5-7
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
What I'm saying, and I aways will, is that the Spiritual principles of the first have not been cast away, it wasn't complete, and God never intended it to be complete. They just came first for God's Holy purpose to be accomplished according to the love He has for us. When we have the indwelling Spirit of God we understand that the law is still holy, just and good the same as Paul.
Romans 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Romans 8:5-7
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
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God wrote the ten commandments with his own omnipotent finger.. In the book of Exodus, the 25th chapter, verse 21, it says:
“and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.”
Where was the testimony placed? "in the ark" —
“And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.” (Ex. 25:21)
the mercy seat which was symbolic of the very throne of God was placed above the ark into which was placed the ten commandments. So at the very foundation of God's throne was the ten commandments. This is very important. And then in verse 22 it goes on to say:
“And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.”
the ark was called the ark of the testimony. Why? because the testimony, the ten commandments, was in the ark. The only objects contained within the ark of the covenant, or testimony, “was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron’s rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant [the ten commandments]” (Heb. 9:4). So the ten commandments were written with the finger of God, they were placed inside of the ark, and that's why the ark was called the ark of the testimony (also the ark of the covenant).
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An allegory is defined as:a story, poem, or picture that can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.
An analogy is defined as: a comparison between two things, typically on the basis of their structure and for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
Both dictionary definitions.
Both are necessary because we compare scripture to scripture, and the scriptures give us many "pictures," that piece it all together.
With Both Isaac and Ishmael, there were covenants made.
The bible itself gives us a picture of "spiritual" Egypt.
Isaiah 19:3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.
Revelation 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
So it's not just analyzing by ideas, but sticking with what the scriptures say. I'll leave it to you to look at the covenants made.
Galatians 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
So the covenant," which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar," Is directly connected to the covenant made with Hagar and with Abraham regarding their son (There are two parts to this.) "The son of the bondwoman."
Here's the covenant given on Mount Sinai:
Exodus 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
This was given directly by God to the descendants of the people who had been set free from Egypt.
When considering this covenant, we also MUST consider the entire situation in how Ishmael was conceived, how Sarai and Abraham didn't wait on God but took steps to fulfill the promise of a son, and all of the events that took place in that process. There was no faith when they decided to step out on their own through their own desire without simply trusting in God. And what bondage to sin, and being set free in Christ means. It's not limited nor has it ever been limited to one group or race of people. So the "allegory" is giving us a more full picture of all of this.
The fact that Ishmael's mother was an Egyptian is not just a coincidence.
An analogy is defined as: a comparison between two things, typically on the basis of their structure and for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
Both dictionary definitions.
Both are necessary because we compare scripture to scripture, and the scriptures give us many "pictures," that piece it all together.
With Both Isaac and Ishmael, there were covenants made.
The bible itself gives us a picture of "spiritual" Egypt.
Isaiah 19:3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.
Revelation 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
So it's not just analyzing by ideas, but sticking with what the scriptures say. I'll leave it to you to look at the covenants made.
Galatians 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
So the covenant," which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar," Is directly connected to the covenant made with Hagar and with Abraham regarding their son (There are two parts to this.) "The son of the bondwoman."
Here's the covenant given on Mount Sinai:
Exodus 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
This was given directly by God to the descendants of the people who had been set free from Egypt.
When considering this covenant, we also MUST consider the entire situation in how Ishmael was conceived, how Sarai and Abraham didn't wait on God but took steps to fulfill the promise of a son, and all of the events that took place in that process. There was no faith when they decided to step out on their own through their own desire without simply trusting in God. And what bondage to sin, and being set free in Christ means. It's not limited nor has it ever been limited to one group or race of people. So the "allegory" is giving us a more full picture of all of this.
The fact that Ishmael's mother was an Egyptian is not just a coincidence.
