Amust read and why we need the King James

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And the mere fact that God allowed I John 5:7 into His Word when it was being translated into English, confirms it as well.

A gay dude could likewise claim that God allowed Leviticus 22:18 to be corrupted in the Queen James Bible.

The manuscript evidence indicates that both 1 John 5:7 in the KJV and Leviticus 22:18 in the QJV are intentional corruptions.

What does Revelation 22:18 say on this subject?
 
Jul 22, 2014
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Well, I'm an atheist. If you're attempting to reference faith to any supernatural extent, I'm afraid I can't relate to the question.
I remember the first time I made the claim I was an atheist when I was in school. I had a strong admiration for my Science teacher back then and that is why I favored Evolution at one point in time over my belief that there was a God (when I was younger). At the time, my arguments in defense of Evolution made sense. However, after repenting of my sins and accepting Jesus as my personal Savior and looking back, my reasons for denying God's existence really did not have to do with any real solid observable evidence, though. It seemed that when I did make that claim, that every Christian came out of the wood work trying to convince me that there was a God. Why is this important to bring up?

Well, it has to do with the last two words within the "user name" you chosen here on this forum.

"The Rose."

For when I look at a rose today, I think of love.

A love that a man has for a woman when he gives her a rose in his love for her.

For it is a heart issue and not a head issue that will lead you to the truth about the Lord.

Am I saying there are no facts? Most certainly not.

Here is a list I created on many different Biblical Evidences from my own personal study in another thread:

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...cal-evidences-supporting-truth-gods-word.html

As for my brief thoughts on Evolution being Scientifically valid, please check out what I had written here (Under the same user name):

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120221210824AApe5wx

In fact, there are many scientists who are Christian thru out history who have contributed greatly to the Science we have today.


List of Christian thinkers in science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Also, here is a short testimony of an Evolutionary atheist who converted to Christianity (Dr. Francis Collins, physician-geneticist):


[VIDEO="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qygy14tC3I"]Atheist Converts to Christianity[/VIDEO]
And here is another former atheist's testimony of a scientist who went from Evolution to Christianity:


Dr. Gary Parker (Biologist):
From Evolution to Creation: A Personal Testimony


However, what we are really discussing here is actually a moral issue or heart issue (love), though. For Evolution leads one to think they are just a single celled organism who can just eliminate another single celled organism by natural selection. For in an Evolutionary world view there is no true right and wrong. There is no such thing as true love. There is only natural selection or survival of the fittest.


For having an "Evolutionary world view" is essentially why Jeffrey Dahmer had told us why he had killed.


Here is his testimony that talks about that.


[VIDEO="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AstjPO6mITw"]Jeffrey's Confession.[/VIDEO]

For two times, God led me to Him by the way of love (Even when I ignored the Lord's love, mercy, and goodness).
For that is what true Christianity is all about. Love. For God is love. And He wants to share His love with you if you let Him into your heart. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoseover believes in Him shall not perish but will have everlasting life. For Jesus stands at the door of everyone's heart and knocks to come in to show you the true meaning of what love is really all about. For Jesus can transform your heart and change it to love. To love God and to love all other peoples (Including your enemies). Taking one's cold stone heart and turning into a heart of love. The question is: Do you want that kind of love?
 
Jul 22, 2014
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#83
Well, I'm an atheist. If you're attempting to reference faith to any supernatural extent, I'm afraid I can't relate to the question.
I remember the first time I made the claim I was an atheist when I was in school. I had a strong admiration for my Science teacher back then and that is why I favored Evolution at one point in time over my belief that there was a God (when I was younger). At the time, my arguments in defense of Evolution made sense. However, after repenting of my sins and accepting Jesus as my personal Savior and looking back, my reasons for denying God's existence really did not have to do with any real solid observable evidence, though. It seemed that when I did make that claim, that every Christian came out of the wood work trying to convince me that there was a God. Why is this important to bring up?

Well, it has to do with the last two words within the "user name" you chosen here on this forum.

"The Rose."

For when I look at a rose today, I think of love.

A love that a man has for a woman when he gives her a rose in his love for her.

For it is a heart issue and not a head issue that will lead you to the truth about the Lord.

Am I saying there are no facts? Most certainly not.

Here is a list I created on many different Biblical Evidences from my own personal study in another thread:

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...cal-evidences-supporting-truth-gods-word.html

As for my brief thoughts on Evolution being Scientifically valid, please check out what I had written here (Under the same user name):

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120221210824AApe5wx

In fact, there are many scientists who are Christian thru out history who have contributed greatly to the Science we have today.


List of Christian thinkers in science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Also, here is a short testimony of an Evolutionary atheist who converted to Christianity (Dr. Francis Collins, physician-geneticist):

[video=youtube;1qygy14tC3I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qygy14tC3I[/video]

And here is another former atheist's testimony of a scientist who went from Evolution to Christianity:


Dr. Gary Parker (Biologist):
From Evolution to Creation: A Personal Testimony
 
Jul 22, 2014
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#84
However, what we are really discussing here is actually a moral issue or heart issue (love), though. For Evolution leads one to think they are just a single celled organism who can just eliminate another single celled organism by natural selection. For in an Evolutionary world view there is no true right and wrong. There is no such thing as true love. There is only natural selection or survival of the fittest.


For having an "Evolutionary world view" is essentially why Jeffrey Dahmer had told us why he had killed.


Here is his testimony that talks about that.

[video=youtube;AstjPO6mITw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AstjPO6mITw[/video]


For two times, God led me to Him by the way of love (Even when I ignored the Lord's love, mercy, and goodness). For that is what true Christianity is all about. Love. For God is love. And He wants to share His love with you if you let Him into your heart. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoseover believes in Him shall not perish but will have everlasting life. For Jesus stands at the door of everyone's heart and knocks to come in to show you the true meaning of what love is really all about. For Jesus can transform your heart and change it to love. To love God and to love all other peoples (Including your enemies). Taking one's cold stone heart and turning into a heart of love. The question is: Do you want that kind of love?
 
Jul 22, 2014
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As for the KJV issue:

Again, it comes back down to the topic of love; For how much do you really love God? Do you not really care what God says? I do. Do you really desire to seek His truth and hang on every word He says (And not your own words)? For personally, I love the Lord and truly want to please Him in the most smallest details. Just as I would want to please my fiance in the most smallest details. To truly understand where she is coming from in everything. I also realize that God loves us and He is not the author of confusion, either. God wants to share His love and knowledge with us. God wants us to trust in His Word with no lack of faith or doubt. Having an imperfect Word and or doubting God's Word is perfect and has been preserved for our generation today is a lack of faith. And without faith, it is impossible to please Him. So it is a faith (heart / love) issue. Now, does that mean that folks who are against the idea that the KJV has been preserved perfectly for our day as the Word of God are not saved? No. Most certainly not. For if we are a true follower of God's Word, I believe in time we will be guided into all truth by the Spirit. Also, I believe it is important that we (KJV believers) must love our brothers and sisters even when they may not have the spiritual knowledge that God keeps His promises concerning His Word. For without love, we are nothing. For God is love.
 
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DiscipleDave

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A gay dude could likewise claim that God allowed Leviticus 22:18 to be corrupted in the Queen James Bible.

The manuscript evidence indicates that both 1 John 5:7 in the KJV and Leviticus 22:18 in the QJV are intentional corruptions.

What does Revelation 22:18 say on this subject?
You ask about Revelation 22:18 what about verse 19? Aren't there people trying to say and teach that we should take away I John 5:7 and also take away Lev 22:18? And why do people want to take away these particular verses? Because they do not agree with them. They believe they should not be there, they will change the Word of God (KJV) Bible that God has given us today to live by to fit their own reprobate minds. Calling that which is evil good, and good evil (Such as saying I John 5:7 and Lev 22:18 {which are Good} they say they are not good but are corrupted, thus calling that which is good evil, those who change the Word of God to fit their own thinking to excuse their wickedness shall not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

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