An Analysis on the 144,000 in Revelation
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We do acknowledge that pre-trib rapture is a lie, just as Scripture declares the truth and no lie is of the Truth.
The LORD said so from Genesis to Revelation.
WARNING:
I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book.
He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
Revelation 22:18
The LORD said so from Genesis to Revelation.
WARNING:
I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book.
He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
Revelation 22:18
You are just denying scripture for some agenda...most likely new age religion... other than christian.
The Bible is very clear that there is a rapture on the way.
I see you have no response to my question...where in the bible does it state there is no rapture...or was that just your opinion?.....because you have none.
Be aware there are two other books in the Bible that issues the same warning as rev 22. Hope you are aware of them also.
Deuteronomy 4:1-2 "Hear now, O Israel, the statutes and ordinances I am teaching you to follow, so that you may live and may enter and take possession of the land that the LORD, the God of your fathers, is giving you. You must not add to or subtract from what I command you, so that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God that I am giving you."
The lie of pre-trib rapture violates the LORD's commandment of Deut 4:1-2
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar. - Proverbs 30:5-6
The lie of pre-trib rapture violates the LORD's commandment of Proverbs 30:5-6
The lie of pre-trib rapture is a religion unto itself.
The lie of pre-trib rapture violates the LORD's commandment of Deut 4:1-2
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar. - Proverbs 30:5-6
The lie of pre-trib rapture violates the LORD's commandment of Proverbs 30:5-6
The lie of pre-trib rapture is a religion unto itself.
#1. The LORD says there will be NO rapture BEFORE His Coming
#2. The LORD says there will be NO rapture BEFORE the Resurrection
#3. The LORD says there is NO rapture before tribulation, including the Great Tribulation
Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death,c so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. 14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.
15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
18Therefore encourage one another with these words.
#2. The LORD says there will be NO rapture BEFORE the Resurrection
#3. The LORD says there is NO rapture before tribulation, including the Great Tribulation
Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death,c so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. 14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.
15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
18Therefore encourage one another with these words.
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What you have said in your posts is that the rapture is simultaneous to the [first] resurrection of the dead and corresponds to the Lord appearing on [in] the clouds. In that meaning then you must take the view that there is no rapture - either pre tribulation or else pre great tribulation. Correct?
I can't see that it matters much, in truth, in the USA (part from a perceived ill effect of the pre tribulation position) - but why the condemnation of those who hold to a pre or mid tribulation rapture?
I can't see that it matters much, in truth, in the USA (part from a perceived ill effect of the pre tribulation position) - but why the condemnation of those who hold to a pre or mid tribulation rapture?
If you please! But I asked yourself - as I have read your condemnation on the pre tribulation position - and thus by inference on those who hold to it. It's a personal question to yourself. I included the mid tribulation position as being the same - as [presumptuously] deserving of your condemnation - [as] you write a condemnation upon the pre tribulation position. Seeing that we are all men and women then when we read one anothers' words we are the ones effected by them. It's not a criticism is a neutral question. Answer it as a representative question if you wish, however.
Right.
Let the readers also note what Jesus had also already said, in Matthew 19:28,
"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory [see Matt25:31-34 for its TIMING], ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judgING the twelve tribes of Israel."
I see too many folks endeavoring to explain this away, since their viewpoint has no place at all for "the twelve tribes of Israel" FUTURE (contrary to vast amounts of Scripture on the Subject).
Let the readers also note what Jesus had also already said, in Matthew 19:28,
"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory [see Matt25:31-34 for its TIMING], ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judgING the twelve tribes of Israel."
I see too many folks endeavoring to explain this away, since their viewpoint has no place at all for "the twelve tribes of Israel" FUTURE (contrary to vast amounts of Scripture on the Subject).
Here is the Truth according to the Word:
#1. There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
#2. But Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’ ”
We are to believe what God has said - NOT what HE did not say.
#3. Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said................ pre-trib rapture is a lie from satan for the purpose of dividing the Body of Christ.
#4. JESUS warned against the lie of pre-trib rapture = Matthew ch24
“Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.
#1. There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
#2. But Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’ ”
We are to believe what God has said - NOT what HE did not say.
#3. Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said................ pre-trib rapture is a lie from satan for the purpose of dividing the Body of Christ.
#4. JESUS warned against the lie of pre-trib rapture = Matthew ch24
“Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.
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