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I agree with you Stephen63 but I have a Question: Is it true that when we "sleep" not "die" that it is under the direction of the Lord that we which sleep/die in the Lord is escorted to a place of rest/paradise? While, those individuals that "die" are escorted to a place of torment until the final judgement?
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"My" Understanding of the Angel of Death
“Please Rip My Thesis Apart If I Am Totally Off Base”
I do not believe that the “Angel of Death” (under the Law of First Mention) and the “Death” are the same entity. Two distinct and separate beings exist. One entity is referred to in the King James translations, as “The Angel of Death” and the other as “Death” and later identified as a spirit riding a pale green horse in the Book of Revelations. “Death” (the Death Spirit)” is a fallen angel that took the assignment of death at the will of G-d.
Yes, I believe that there are “spirits” that volunteer for assignments when G-d wants His judgment performed (against humans) and once doing so take on the identity of the act performed. A reference supporting this thought is found in 1Kings 22:21-23
"And there came forth a spirit, and stood before G-d, and said, I will entice him. 22 And G-d said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt entice him, and shalt prevail also: go forth, and do so. 23 Now therefore, behold, G-d hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets; and G-d hath spoken evil concerning thee.
Revelation 6:8 refers to “Death” as an individual entity; “And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him...”. In similarity, Hell is also referred to as an individual entity; Revelation 9:11; King James Bible (Cambridge Ed), “And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon”
Death’s companion is Hell; “Hell” has a king that identifies as Abaddon, while Death rode upon a horse. The expressions written in the book of Revelations 6:8 and 20:14 is the key to “my” understanding death and hell being actual entities and not metaphorical expressions. "Hell" is the transporter of condemned human souls to the holding place beneath the earth.
The “Angel of Death” as a Law of First Mention is never again referred to when considering revenge against a nation of human beings like the event ascribed when G-d delivered the Hebrew. The actions of the Angel of Death" does closely link to Jesus’s victory at Edom and Bozrah as written in the book of Revelations 19:13 and Isaiah 63:1.
Please share your comments.
Respectfully submitted,
Livingepistle
“Please Rip My Thesis Apart If I Am Totally Off Base”
I do not believe that the “Angel of Death” (under the Law of First Mention) and the “Death” are the same entity. Two distinct and separate beings exist. One entity is referred to in the King James translations, as “The Angel of Death” and the other as “Death” and later identified as a spirit riding a pale green horse in the Book of Revelations. “Death” (the Death Spirit)” is a fallen angel that took the assignment of death at the will of G-d.
Yes, I believe that there are “spirits” that volunteer for assignments when G-d wants His judgment performed (against humans) and once doing so take on the identity of the act performed. A reference supporting this thought is found in 1Kings 22:21-23
"And there came forth a spirit, and stood before G-d, and said, I will entice him. 22 And G-d said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt entice him, and shalt prevail also: go forth, and do so. 23 Now therefore, behold, G-d hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets; and G-d hath spoken evil concerning thee.
Revelation 6:8 refers to “Death” as an individual entity; “And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him...”. In similarity, Hell is also referred to as an individual entity; Revelation 9:11; King James Bible (Cambridge Ed), “And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon”
Death’s companion is Hell; “Hell” has a king that identifies as Abaddon, while Death rode upon a horse. The expressions written in the book of Revelations 6:8 and 20:14 is the key to “my” understanding death and hell being actual entities and not metaphorical expressions. "Hell" is the transporter of condemned human souls to the holding place beneath the earth.
The “Angel of Death” as a Law of First Mention is never again referred to when considering revenge against a nation of human beings like the event ascribed when G-d delivered the Hebrew. The actions of the Angel of Death" does closely link to Jesus’s victory at Edom and Bozrah as written in the book of Revelations 19:13 and Isaiah 63:1.
Please share your comments.
Respectfully submitted,
Livingepistle
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Jude 1:9 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
New International Version (©2011)
But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"
If you notice, when the bible talks of physical death as sleep it is in the OT. We know there was atonement in Christ before Christ lived with us in the flesh, and we know that was only through the sacrificial system. When Christ lived with us there was a change in that system. The atonement through the symbol of Christ of animal blood became obsolete, now it was through Christ. The difference is shown to us right away, for Christ told the thief who died on the cross with Him that he would, that day, be with Him in paradise. Physical death is spoken of in a different way after the cross. Christ did not say of death that the thief would sleep with him.
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I would like to comment on the last part of your comment: We determine "where-ever" God sends us by the life we chose to live. "God" bases his decisions concerning "Up or Down" upon how we lived according to our belief in he as Savior and the keeping of His commandments. The important thing is that Jesus conquered Death, Hell, and the Grave and has control over who does the delivering of souls. All souls belong to "God" and He has never lost control but He does have an hierarchy that does his bidding. Sovereign is the Lord in all His judgments and who can council Him?
Livingepistle
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Livingepistle
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Excellent critique and gladly accepted. Please be patient with me, I have one more question: If after the cross, those that do not accept Salvation, as did the thief on the cross with Salvation being present in body, why does NT references to "sleep" only apply to those that accept Jesus as their personal Savior?
I am very sincere with this question and respect any and all feedback you offer.
God Bless and Thank You.
Livingepistle
I am very sincere with this question and respect any and all feedback you offer.
God Bless and Thank You.
Livingepistle
I am sorry, I don't understand. I have looked through translations of the NT and don't find a reference to sleep in death, only of sleep as we know it.
Salvation is given to anyone, but no one has it based on anything but God's grace. We can't earn it on our own through what we do, altho we can destroy God's ability to give it to us by identifying ourselves with a sin such as being a thief. The only way to receive salvation is through forgiveness given by Christ. What Christ did those three days after crucifiction makes this possible. I think we would have to understand all that happens in the spiritual realm to fully understand the why and how of that, it is enough for us to know this is so. God is holy, we cannot live with Him with sin. We know sin, have since the change in humans told of in Genesis. So it is only through Christ that we live on in eternity.
Salvation is given to anyone, but no one has it based on anything but God's grace. We can't earn it on our own through what we do, altho we can destroy God's ability to give it to us by identifying ourselves with a sin such as being a thief. The only way to receive salvation is through forgiveness given by Christ. What Christ did those three days after crucifiction makes this possible. I think we would have to understand all that happens in the spiritual realm to fully understand the why and how of that, it is enough for us to know this is so. God is holy, we cannot live with Him with sin. We know sin, have since the change in humans told of in Genesis. So it is only through Christ that we live on in eternity.
Matthew 20:15-16
15*Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
16*So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Daniel 4:34-37
34*And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:
35*And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
36*At the same time my reason returned unto me; and for the glory of my kingdom, mine honour and brightness returned unto me; and my counsellors and my lords sought unto me; and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me.
37*Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.
15*Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
16*So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Daniel 4:34-37
34*And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:
35*And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
36*At the same time my reason returned unto me; and for the glory of my kingdom, mine honour and brightness returned unto me; and my counsellors and my lords sought unto me; and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me.
37*Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.
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1 Corinthians 15:51 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1 Corinthians 15:6 King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
After that, he was seen of over five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain until now, but some are fallen asleep.
1 Corinthians 15:18 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
These scriptures are my references to "sleep". When referencing the "lost" in the NT many times refer to eternal death or just died, death, etc.
I appreciated this response. Thanks
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1 Corinthians 15:6 King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
After that, he was seen of over five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain until now, but some are fallen asleep.
1 Corinthians 15:18 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
These scriptures are my references to "sleep". When referencing the "lost" in the NT many times refer to eternal death or just died, death, etc.
I appreciated this response. Thanks
When we dig a little deeper into the symbolism of that, we find that the blood is a symbol of the blood of Christ, and Christ's blood saves us from eternal death. It is through satan introducing the knowledge of good and evil into our lives that we are under death. The bible compares freeing the Hebrews from slavery in Egypt to us being freed from the death and slavery of sin. That ties the angel of death back to satan.