Antichrist has been revealed!

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I don't think he actually hit anyone though. There's no evidence of that.

No, I think you're just plain rude. You're "righteously angry" about a very trivial matter. I'm baptised by sprinkling and have had the sign of the cross put on my forehead a number of times. And I just happen to think the Pope is a pretty cool guy ;).
 
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Moshelijah

I'm sorry, I didn't know this thread belonged to only you and MahagonySnail...
 
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I don't think he actually hit anyone though. There's no evidence of that.

No, I think you're just plain rude. You're "righteously angry" about a very trivial matter. I'm baptised by sprinkling and have had the sign of the cross put on my forehead a number of times. And I just happen to think the Pope is a pretty cool guy ;).
Keeping the covenant is no trivial matter!

Your salvation depends on your baptism.

you need to be Born Again the way Jesus did BY IMMERSION..

The Pope personally instigated the Inquisitions which murdered hundreds of millions

is that cool?

was Hitler cool as well?
 
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Actually the earliest method of baptism was not immersion but most likely pouring. Standing up in the water and the water poured on the head so it flowed down. John is often depicted baptizing Christ with water poured from a scallop shell in early christian art.

A study of early Christian baptismals by Professor M.M. Ninan states, “In every case the baptismal fonts were shallow pools where only the candidates feet were immersed. These were certainly unsuitable for total immersion as is practiced today. Even in the squatting mode, immersion could not be accomplished. Water was certainly poured on people from an overhead stream or from a pitcher held by the person baptizing".

The words baptise are simply Greek translated into english. No literal meaning such as "immersion" can be attached to the word baptize, because the same word is used to refer to washing, for example. Baptise by full immersion proponents say it means to dip...well it can, but it can also mean to put a liquid on something. The word for baptism includes immersion, sprinkling and pouring.

In comparison to baptism in the Spirit, the believers were also neither immersed or plunged into the Spirit, rather, baptism in the Spirit involved the Spirit being poured out upon the believers, at Pentecost.

But nice try buddy :).
 
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The Pope personally instigated the Inquisitions which murdered hundreds of millions
There's no hard evidence of that. The world population at the time in Europe 100's of millions? LOL. The numbers have been inflated to 9 million tops, with no hard scholarly research to prove it. In the Spanish inquisition, executions were between 3 and 5000 people.

So, the number of killed, were a lot less than American or Iraqi casualties as a result of the Iraq war. The Spanish inquisition, actually helped to bring religious and political unity to Spain and perhaps prevent larger and bloodier religious wars.

Hope that helps.
 
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Actually the earliest method of baptism was not immersion but most likely pouring. Standing up in the water and the water poured on the head so it flowed down. John is often depicted baptizing Christ with water poured from a scallop shell in early christian art.

A study of early Christian baptismal by Professor M.M. Ninan states, “In every case the baptismal fonts were shallow pools where only the candidates feet were immersed. These were certainly unsuitable for total immersion as is practiced today. Even in the squatting mode, immersion could not be accomplished. Water was certainly poured on people from an overhead stream or from a pitcher held by the person baptizing".

The words baptise are simply Greek translated into English. No literal meaning such as "immersion" can be attached to the word baptize, because the same word is used to refer to washing, for example. Baptise by full immersion proponents say it means to dip...well it can, but it can also mean to put a liquid on something. The word for baptism includes immersion, sprinkling and pouring.

In comparison to baptism in the Spirit, the believers were also neither immersed or plunged into the Spirit, rather, baptism in the Spirit involved the Spirit being poured out upon the believers, at Pentecost.

But nice try buddy :).
The Greek for the word ‘baptizo’ means to immerse, plunge, dip, or bury in water.

The very Greek word itself excludes it from meaning “sprinkling.”

it symbolizes your burial when your buried snail will it be your whole body or just one part?

Don't forget , one must be baptized (immersed) just as the Jews had been doing for millennia before John the Baptist and before Jesus. That's why The Bible talks so much about pools around the Temple Mount. Lucifer knows that! So he provided his own version of a baptism a fake but convincing baptism, without immersion, called it baptism or "christening" and deceived billions. The Holy Roman Empire went so far as to force the Jews in Spain then the French to become Catholic via the Inquisitions. They either received the mark or were put to death. You said this was cool!

Baptism by immersion is not a Christian invention it stems right back to Moses.
They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 1 Corinthians 10:1-3
Jesus knew this. Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. Matthew 3:12-14

For Christ died for sins once for all, ... few people, eight in all, were saved through water, and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also, not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 1 Peter 3:18.

The only way one becomes catholic is to receive a CROSS on the FOREHEAD after being sprinkled with water. This is not an immersion therefor it can not be baptism. The mode of Jewish immersion or (Tavilah) took place all over Jerusalem in a (Mikvah) such as the pool of Siloam. The CROSS on the FOREHEAD is a clever and insidious counterfeit to deceive. For hundreds and hundreds of years the papacy FORCED you to become catholic or YOU WERE PUT TO DEATH. you said this is cool!

you would have made a great inquisitor buddy!
 
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There's no hard evidence of that. The world population at the time in Europe 100's of millions? LOL. The numbers have been inflated to 9 million tops, with no hard scholarly research to prove it. In the Spanish inquisition, executions were between 3 and 5000 people.

So, the number of killed, were a lot less than American or Iraqi casualties as a result of the Iraq war. The Spanish inquisition, actually helped to bring religious and political unity to Spain and perhaps prevent larger and bloodier religious wars.

Hope that helps.
Correct 'Snail, the Inquisition was in fact very lenient, there main aim was conversion of Jews, it is debatable whether or not it was successful or not, but the myth that the Inquisition tortured and killed millions is, well, a myth; any executions carried out were by the secular state and not the Catholic Church.
 
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The Beast has a mark on the forehead ......The catholic church puts a cross on your forehead.

The Beast has a mark on the right hand .....catholics make the sign of the cross on the right hand.

The Beast has a statue to worship ...........catholics worship the cross.

The Beast has a statue that talks ............Many catholics report the cross talking to them including st Francis of Assisi.

The Beast's name equals 666 .................the popes title PONT.MAX. equals 666.

The great prostitute sits on seven hills ......the Vatican sits on seven hills.

The Beast reigns for 1260 days ..............papal Rome reigned foe 1260 years.

Antichrist means like Christ ....................The papacy say they are like Christ on Earth.

over to you snail...buddy
 
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Correct 'Snail, the Inquisition was in fact very lenient, there main aim was conversion of Jews, it is debatable whether or not it was successful or not, but the myth that the Inquisition tortured and killed millions is, well, a myth; any executions carried out were by the secular state and not the Catholic Church.

i cant believe you said that...how do you have a "lenient" iquisition

who do you think controlled the state...

start you own "lenient" iquisition ruin. snail your the head inquisitor...kill kill kill
 
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The first medieval inquisition, the episcopal inquisition, was established in the year 1184 by a papal bull entitled Ad abolendam, "For the purpose of doing away with."
 
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Moshelijah

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Its the PAPACY.

Leader of Billions throughout history.
His organisation once ruled the known world and still is the wealthiest on the planet.
His organisation requires you recieve a CROSS or X on your forehead.
His organisation makes the same mark with the right hand. (A CROSS or X)
His organisation worships (A CROSS or X).
His organisation killed you if you refused to pray to or WORSHIP THE CRUCIFIX during the inquisitions.
His organisation SITS ON SEVEN HILLS.