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GreenNnice

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You've seen people on a streetlight corner holding a sign up like : 'Out of work. God bless.'

How important is it that you help ?

Do you ?

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Or, do you need more of a person coming up to you type of situation to help? "I have only 35 cents and my daughter and I are needing to catch the bus. Anything will help . "
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What do you need?


How will you know (to help) ?
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Or, how about this situation: ' I am trying to buy some dinner and I have no money, can you spare some change?' OH, and alcohol is reeking on their breath, they are disheveled in appearance.' Does that keep you from helping?

Do you give them change? Dollars? Nothing? Say 'God bless.' and curtly leave it at that.

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What does scripture say about this ?

Could you be damned to Hell IF you don't help those needing help ?
 
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pickles

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Jesus said, whatever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me.

Some one once told me that the mesure of ones love for Jesus is known by how that person treats the least.

God bless
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GreenNnice

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pickles said:
Jesus said, whatever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me.

Some one once told me that the mesure of ones love for Jesus is known by how that person treats the least.

God bless
pickles
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Good. Yes. God says in a very popular song: 'And they will know we are christians by our love, by our Love. And they will know we are christians by our love.' Love one another. Love your neighor. Not just good things to do either, commandments by God. Great commandments. :)

God speaks of the 'least of these' on more than one occassion in scripture. And, when He speaks of 'these,' the consequences of not helping them are not good :(

Very not good. :( :(

God bless, too, Pickles :)
 
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Trax

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GreenNnice said:
You've seen people on a streetlight corner holding a sign up like : 'Out of work. God bless.'

How important is it that you help ?


Could you be damned to Hell IF you don't help those needing help ?
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Two miles from my house, a guy stands with a sign that says he needs a job. He has been
standing there for over 10 years now, asking for a job. You would think after 10 years, that
strategy isn't working, to try something different. Then again, he might not be looking for a
job.
 
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Trax said:
Two miles from my house, a guy stands with a sign that says he needs a job. He has been
standing there for over 10 years now, asking for a job. You would think after 10 years, that
strategy isn't working, to try something different. Then again, he might not be looking for a
job.
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Maybe he is an angel that you are unaware is entertaining you all there, if you will. I am saying this sadly but truly, Tracks . What if?

Isn't' it true that we kind of scoff or laugh or just say 'Glad I ain't him (or her).'

We scoff in a sense too don't you think by just passing by this 'samaritan' and not helping ?

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What about the 'damned to Hell' part ?

Does anyone think that your salvation can be taken away IF you do not help someone that God puts in front of you ?

Silly, I know it sounds silly. But is it really? And are there scripture verses to back up HOW VERY IMPORTANT it is to help others in need, I am not necessarily speaking of 'the least of these' either and, what about salvation?

I will say this....

God will take judgment on your act to not help the needy and it will be exacting. How EXACTING is a good question isn't it ?

Will you lose your salvation for not helping the person with the 'Anytheng Will Help' sign on street corner?
 
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17But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him(1 John 3:17).
 
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GreenNnice

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mpaper345 said:
17But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him(1 John 3:17).
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Brilliantly said,Mpapier. Ja wohl !

IF we do not have the Love of God in us as He wishes for us, HOW can we love God and how can we be with Him for eternity ?

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I want to make it clear that I am not judging anyone, I am NOT , in any way, shape, or, form, condemning them to Hell. Scripture states: "There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus,' and, I am not He but I certainly am not condemning anyone. I am simply trying to make scripture clear as the above quote is VERY clear .
 
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Maybe he is an angel that you are unaware is entertaining you all there, if you will. I am saying this sadly but truly, Tracks . What if?
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No, standing there holding a sign, is his job. He's got a cell phone and a little moped
bike he bought from the dealer a couple blocks away.
 
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GreenNnice

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No, standing there holding a sign, is his job. He's got a cell phone and a little moped
bike he bought from the dealer a couple blocks away.
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What were you trying to say in the first place?

I don't see humor in this, standing 10 years with a sign to working at a car dealership, the correlation of usefulness I do not see . Sorry, if being too harsh here.

I am being serious, with helping others' needy we know not whenever God puts them in our path, and, by the way, at least once in my life, I have entertained an angel (messenger) God sent to help me move through a time in my life :)
 
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What were you trying to say in the first place?

I don't see humor in this, standing 10 years with a sign to working at a car dealership, the correlation of usefulness I do not see . Sorry, if being too harsh here.

I am being serious, with helping others' needy we know not whenever God puts them in our path, and, by the way, at least once in my life, I have entertained an angel (messenger) God sent to help me move through a time in my life :)
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There wasn't any humor. If you read my first post, you would have seen he stands with that
sign, two miles from my house. He lives near by. He was begging for a job when jobs were
easy to come by. He hasn't straved in 10 years. He has a cell phone and even bought a moped.
An angel don't need a cell phone or moped. There are 3 churches within a half a mile where
he stands. I'm sure he could find some work from someone in those churches. Standing there
holding that sign is how he gets money. He can afford a cell phone plan, a moped and gas
for it. Why don't he drive the moped to the unemployement office? Why didn't he
buy a lawn mower with the money and cut grass? Why not a rake and rake leaves?
Day after day he stands there. He is living better than most people in the world.
At this point, I don't see the need for him to get a job. He's doing fairly well, just standing
there with his sign.
 
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GreenNnice

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Trax said:
There wasn't any humor. If you read my first post, you would have seen he stands with that
sign, two miles from my house. He lives near by. He was begging for a job when jobs were
easy to come by. He hasn't straved in 10 years. He has a cell phone and even bought a moped.
An angel don't need a cell phone or moped. There are 3 churches within a half a mile where
he stands. I'm sure he could find some work from someone in those churches. Standing there
holding that sign is how he gets money. He can afford a cell phone plan, a moped and gas
for it. Why don't he drive the moped to the unemployement office? Why didn't he
buy a lawn mower with the money and cut grass? Why not a rake and rake leaves?
Day after day he stands there. He is living better than most people in the world.
At this point, I don't see the need for him to get a job. He's doing fairly well, just standing
there with his sign.
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Oh, sorry I misunderstood, traxxer, I thought you said he worked at dealership. Makes perfect sense, thanks for explaining, we need to pray for him, people like that, i think, Yeah , that would be a tough, not to mention, boring job. I would go see him every day fsor a week straight, give him a buck and give him something Holy Spirit put on my heart.
On another noté, yes, some people make a living being monkey cup collectors, i heard in seattle one guy made 22,000 in a year begging.
 
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Israel

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Oh, sorry I misunderstood, traxxer, I thought you said he worked at dealership. Makes perfect sense, thanks for explaining, we need to pray for him, people like that, i think, Yeah , that would be a tough, not to mention, boring job. I would go see him every day fsor a week straight, give him a buck and give him something Holy Spirit put on my heart.
On another noté, yes, some people make a living being monkey cup collectors, i heard in seattle one guy made 22,000 in a year begging.
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We all need prayer, but please don't look at what he's doing as "bad". If that is truly how he makes his living , then it kept him fed and satisfied for 10 years. At a minimum wage of $8.75 an hour and 40 hours a week, one would make just over $16,000. Now deduct the various taxes and social security and you can maybe see why one would rather stand on a corner with a sign.

It is all vanity. It's nice to help but you cannot determine the character of another by whether he gives up some change or not. We all may have given a little to the unfortunate at one time. We all may not have as well But giving to the poor is, more than just a paper dollar and a minted coin.

What of the poor in spirit? How do you give what you have to such as these?
 
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Christ never sent out beggars on his behalf, He sent witnesses.

It would do a persons christianity much good, if one were to spend time on the corner with the beggar, getting this through his mind. :)

Though one may go hungry from time to time, it does the body and the spirit good, to fast from time to time.

The only way a person could starve to passover/death, is if they don't know The Father of Lights in and through Christ/Yeshua.

And then if the person did starve to passover/death not knowing The Father; who is the guilty one before Him? considering that sin in ingnorance, is no sin. The beggar? or the 10's of thousands of so-called christians that either passed the beggar by or gave him some change with a smile and witnessed nothing to him about The Word?

Forever in Christ :)
 
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I know many question wether to help a begger or not, as Ive struggled , because I new many of them are simply looking for drug money.
Im not saying all do, so please, those that are not know Im not trying to judge them.
But we are not to judge the ones who seek money for drugs ether.
Ive prayed alot about this subject, struggleing because one doesnt want to promote a drug use.
But then , Jesus showed me that none of us deserve His salvation, it was for sinners He came, for noe of us can be deserving of His gift of grace, it is given because He loves us.
It was this that made me realise that this is the heart Jesus desires in us for our fellow man, because perfect love is not about deserving, but serving, because Jesus loved us first.
This is the witness we are called to when we serve those in need.

God bless
pickles
 
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GreenNnice said:
You've seen people on a streetlight corner holding a sign up like : 'Out of work. God bless.'

How important is it that you help ?

Do you ?

______
Or, do you need more of a person coming up to you type of situation to help? "I have only 35 cents and my daughter and I are needing to catch the bus. Anything will help . "
_______
What do you need?


How will you know (to help) ?
__________
Or, how about this situation: ' I am trying to buy some dinner and I have no money, can you spare some change?' OH, and alcohol is reeking on their breath, they are disheveled in appearance.' Does that keep you from helping?

Do you give them change? Dollars? Nothing? Say 'God bless.' and curtly leave it at that.

__________________________

What does scripture say about this ?

Could you be damned to Hell IF you don't help those needing help ?
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if i have time i invite them to dinner or give them food and talk to them. otherwise I help those I meet every day not so much by piling money on them as talking to them, helping them by showing that no matter what God loves them and people should respect that and they should respect theselves. sometimes time expresses love more than money ever can. personally i am of the opinon we should teach people to fish not just give them the fish.
 
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GreenNnice

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Israel said:
We all need prayer, but please don't look at what he's doing as "bad". If that is truly how he makes his living , then it kept him fed and satisfied for 10 years. At a minimum wage of $8.75 an hour and 40 hours a week, one would make just over $16,000. Now deduct the various taxes and social security and you can maybe see why one would rather stand on a corner with a sign.

It is all vanity. It's nice to help but you cannot determine the character of another by whether he gives up some change or not. We all may have given a little to the unfortunate at one time. We all may not have as well But giving to the poor is, more than just a paper dollar and a minted coin.

What of the poor in spirit? How do you give what you have to such as these?
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Re-read what I said, Iz, I never said word 'bad,' I was showing understanding of street-corner person's plight with word boring.'

I don't ever just give street-person money. Most of the time I get a 'thank you' when I give the person a couple bucks. But, if no appreciative remark, I always say 'God bless,' and, if they are just coming up to me in my normal travels, I will usually, the Lord leads, stop and let them know about Jesus . Interestingly enough, most street-people already believe in God. So I will then just talk about how what has ahold of them is from The Enemy and it would not be that hard for them to re-commit their life to Jesus , for them to see His power leading their life.

pickles said:
I know many question wether to help a begger or not, as Ive struggled , because I new many of them are simply looking for drug money.
Im not saying all do, so please, those that are not know Im not trying to judge them.
But we are not to judge the ones who seek money for drugs ether.
Ive prayed alot about this subject, struggleing because one doesnt want to promote a drug use.
But then , Jesus showed me that none of us deserve His salvation, it was for sinners He came, for noe of us can be deserving of His gift of grace, it is given because He loves us.
It was this that made me realise that this is the heart Jesus desires in us for our fellow man, because perfect love is not about deserving, but serving, because Jesus loved us first.
This is the witness we are called to when we serve those in need.

God bless
pickles
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Excellent , we are to SERVE, not DESERVE. Amen. Great to bear, pickled :)

AnandaHya said:
if i have time i invite them to dinner or give them food and talk to them. otherwise I help those I meet every day not so much by piling money on them as talking to them, helping them by showing that no matter what God loves them and people should respect that and they should respect theselves. sometimes time expresses love more than money ever can. personally i am of the opinon we should teach people to fish not just give them the fish.
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Yes, Ana, as I said to Iz, I do not rarely ever give just . It is a time to witness as well, not planned , not the reason I give, but , well. The Lord leads :)
 
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