Apologetics

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Do you get to choose the flavor of what people will throw at you? :rolleyes:
hehe, no, but you can choose what flavor you will dish out.
I find presuppositional works best with unbelievers (I like to make others question what they take for granite) and evidential apologetics I find edifies believers.
 

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hehe, no, but you can choose what flavor you will dish out.
I find presuppositional works best with unbelievers (I like to make others question what they take for granite) and evidential apologetics I find edifies believers.
My apologetics were fairly varied. It wasn't something I planned on doing, but it sure hooked me right away. Initially, it was shocking to talk to people who openly hated on me simply because I believe in God. On the other hand, I was only three years in to my Christian walk, after being nearly fifty years on the outside (wandering the wilderness). I felt I could relate to them in a lot of ways, and I sure learned a lot, needing to research so much on quite a few subjects before responding on a plethora of topics. Plus, I had a lot of life experience to draw from. It was challenging but fun. Atheists don't like to be reminded that they take things for granted, or on the word of another, without proving all things for themselves. It is a sticking point with them, actually. It becomes so clear that their spiritual blindness really is predicated on their pride of life. Haha. Who wants to hear that? They hate the truth even as they claim to base their beliefs on facts. It is such a fine line to walk, in carrying an ongoing dialogue with them. They make no bones about wanting to destroy faith. I witnessed a few Christians crashing and burning. There were times when I thought that all the abuses that I had suffered in my life helped prepare me to continually face them over a period of eight years. Funny the things we can thank God for, after all. :)
 
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I'd beg to differ. Maybe not the cookie cutter apologist, but an apologist nonetheless...

C.S. Lewis and the Language of Apologetics - bethinking.org
The reason I don't consider him an apologist is because he used the worldview to explain why God is real and only as far as the world can go in their illogical thinking in The Problem of Pain. He contended the proof of God was even cavemen believed he exists. Hello? How would he know that? So, basically evolution proves God.
 
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May I ask what kind of job you are looking to get with a degree in apologetics? I understand that simply having a degree in anything will look good on a resume, but I'm curious as to what job you see yourself working at after college. I only ask because many of my high school friends (I went to a private Christian school) ended up going to Christian universities and majoring in things like Biblical studies, Christian studies, etc. None of them currently have jobs that have anything to do with their major. Now, several of them do have decent paying and promising jobs right now, so I'm not saying anything negative about their decision. I'm just curious what your expectations are going into this.

Likewise, I feel obliged to give you a warning. Dabbling deeply in the field of apologetics is like playing with fire. There is great potential to grow in the faith by diving so deeply into it, but there is also the potential to get burned. People have lost their faith after delving deeply in this subject. So if you want to ensure the constant testing won't turn into irreversible doubt, the safest thing you can do is not surround yourself with constant arguments and reasonings against Christianity.
Some people go to college just to learn. And if you think your faith can be destroyed if you delve too deep into God, what kind of god do you have?

(I'm in my 50's. I know many who went to school in a seminary or Bible school. All are working.)
 
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I actually plan on being a writer. Thats a big IF though. I'm going to self-publish one of my books next month and see where it goes. I don't plan on getting into too many debates. Although I understand that's the point of Apologetic's. I just want to be able to defend my faith and turn people to Jesus.
Writer to writer -- Don't self-publish your book until you learn enough about how it will go, instead of if it will go. Publish before you're good enough to be published and that's a mark on your record that will make it ten times harder to publish again.

Self-publishing isn't to see how it goes. It's to go because you know how to find the audience that wants to read it and it's ready for them. Join a site for writers that critique each other to see where you stand with what you have. And then use it to learn more of what you need to learn to publish. You're still a teen. You can become a writer by the time you're in your 20's if you work at it, but you're not there yet. The same amount of effort is required to become an apologist.

(I'm an amateur apologist. I just spent the last four years writing my novel after spending two years learning how to write. The only reason I'm not pitching my novel to agents right now is because I need to see my husband get better first. If he needs my help for the rest of his life, that book won't be published. He's simply more important to me than that novel is. I've been studying in the area of apology for over 20 years, and I'm still only at amateur status. That hard in both areas!)
 

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hehe, no, but you can choose what flavor you will dish out.
I find presuppositional works best with unbelievers (I like to make others question what they take for granite) and evidential apologetics I find edifies believers.

Ooo, Ooo, I know, I know!

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Ooo, Ooo, I know, I know!

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Ok, Ok I'll grant it.
 
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There is only one book you need to study and that is God's Word.
If you want to defend what is right or wrong it is the only source.
True but people like the New Atheists will question everything in the Bible and aren't satisfied with the word. So you have to talk in their language and defend it. Some people just need it spelled out for them.
You can talk a blue streak but not until the Holy Spirit opens their heart will you make any headway.
 
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Well one question im anticipating and I use to ask this question myself but how does one from a biblical stand point explain fossils and fossil records. I know the answer is the devil can do many things to deceive you, but that answers likely to get me laughed at. Unless you know a better argument and I'm sure there is one on the case.
Look up Creation scientists. Alot of good books have been written to explain these things.. Creationscience.com, answersingenesis.org are a few places to look at.
 

p_rehbein

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hehe, I was thinking, some girls leave their boyfriend because he takes her for granite LOL.

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Isaiah 28:16)
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.


 
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It also helps to study your enemy, I read the book of mormon, because I was witnessing to a mormon at the time, I am studying islam because my neighbor is a palestinian muslim from Israel, and would love to know how to speak to him.

You have to know what they believe in order to bring Gods word to them. Talk in their language..
 

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gran·ite



  • 1.a very hard, granular, crystalline, igneous rock consisting mainly of quartz, mica, and feldspar and often used as a building stone

Isaiah 28:16)
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.


Yeah, yeah, got it the first time.
I hope you're not one of those that explain the punch line to every joke they tell. Lol
 

Monnkai

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Writer to writer -- Don't self-publish your book until you learn enough about how it will go, instead of if it will go. Publish before you're good enough to be published and that's a mark on your record that will make it ten times harder to publish again.

Self-publishing isn't to see how it goes. It's to go because you know how to find the audience that wants to read it and it's ready for them. Join a site for writers that critique each other to see where you stand with what you have. And then use it to learn more of what you need to learn to publish. You're still a teen. You can become a writer by the time you're in your 20's if you work at it, but you're not there yet. The same amount of effort is required to become an apologist.

(I'm an amateur apologist. I just spent the last four years writing my novel after spending two years learning how to write. The only reason I'm not pitching my novel to agents right now is because I need to see my husband get better first. If he needs my help for the rest of his life, that book won't be published. He's simply more important to me than that novel is. I've been studying in the area of apology for over 20 years, and I'm still only at amateur status. That hard in both areas!)
I'll look into the site for writers. I've been writing for more than four years. I have gotten better. I still need help with punctuation but I have a couple grammar checker's on my computer to help with it. I have given the book to some friends and they really enjoy it. There's website where you pay to have your book published and they do the marketing for it as well. I'm going to look into it more. And who say's I'm a teen? I'm 26 lol