Apostles!
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Paul was speaking specifically to the Believers at Corinth as there was confusion and chaos IN THE CHURCH because in THAT church some women were being out of control AGAIN some Hermeneutics would be helpful so you can learn how to decifer if he was addressing a specific group OR All Christians.
Paul was NOT say that women should not teach. Women are held to the same requirements as men; their homes must be in order first and their 'theology' must line up with the written word of God.
Paul was NOT say that women should not teach. Women are held to the same requirements as men; their homes must be in order first and their 'theology' must line up with the written word of God.
VW is not the only one that has 'resurrection confusion'. The resurrection of the church and body of Christ is a bodily resurrection where the dead in Christ shall rise first and those that remain alive shall be caught up together in the clouds of the air to meet the Lord and ever be with Him (1Thes 4:16,17). When we were saved and believed upon the name of the Lord for salvation we were all positionally crucified, buried and raised with Christ (Rom 6:4,5, Gal 2:20). In relationship to sin, the body has been crucified (Rom 6:6) but has not been resurrected yet, and when the body is resurrected the old sin nature that resides in the members of that body (Rom 7:23) shall be eradicated and corruption shall put on incorruption (1Cor 15:42-54).
When a believer dies his spirit goes back to God who gave it (Eccl 3:12, 12:7), his soul that has been redeemed is absent from the body and present with the Lord (1Cor 5:3, 2Cor 5:8) and his body goes in the grave to wait for the resurrection to put on immortality, incorruption and glory (1Cor 15:53,54). The believer shall never die, even in death his soul instantly goes to be present with the Lord and at the resurrection he is joined to his new glorified body that shall also never die, for death is swallowed up in victory (1Cor 15:54).
When a believer dies his spirit goes back to God who gave it (Eccl 3:12, 12:7), his soul that has been redeemed is absent from the body and present with the Lord (1Cor 5:3, 2Cor 5:8) and his body goes in the grave to wait for the resurrection to put on immortality, incorruption and glory (1Cor 15:53,54). The believer shall never die, even in death his soul instantly goes to be present with the Lord and at the resurrection he is joined to his new glorified body that shall also never die, for death is swallowed up in victory (1Cor 15:54).
M
Res33:"I believe the Apostles had much to teach us, but I think they were not right one hundred percent of the time. I think the Lord thought we would understand this." Excuse me? ALL scripture is correct. It is people's UNDERSTANDING or INTERPRETATION that is wrong: 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; The Lord understands only that some will choose to NOT believe the entirety of His written word; some will choose to make allowances for themselves that HE does not make; some while CHOOSE to allow themselves to be deceived by this type of demonic thinking for it is the devil that brings these thoughts of unbelief to a person.
Maggie
Maggie
What was Paul actually saying Res?
And just a side issue, It is not what you think is just or unjust, but what God says is just or injust. So I don't think you have really grasped scripture at all.
So let me get this straight, you will only believe the direct quotes of God, I assume this is what you have been saying for a long time now. Yet can you explain to me why Jesus used the OT that were not direct quotes from God? Many thanks.
Another poitn, if you only believe what Jesus is saying can you tell me in John 3 were Jesus stops talking and John takes over.. read it very carefully its not as easy as you may think!
M
HOW MANY TIMES do I have to say this?? Women making unnecessaruy noise and talking in church was specific to the Corinthians. Pauls directives were to THEM and NOT the Body at large. He was addressing a portion of the Body that was out of control.
Learn hermeneutics so you can read the scriptures accurately.
Everything that the apostles wrote was inspired of God. And you are going to question what God told them to write under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit???? NOT a good idea.
Learn hermeneutics so you can read the scriptures accurately.
Everything that the apostles wrote was inspired of God. And you are going to question what God told them to write under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit???? NOT a good idea.
You seem to base a lot of your doctrine on how you -feel- about certain things, rather than the sure foundation of the word of God. You do realize that the church epistles are actually written TO Christians, right? They tell us what all Christ accomplished for us, who we are in Christ, how to get born again, etc, etc. If I were you, I would NOT take the church epistles with "a grain of salt".