Are Aliens Real? My True Story Part 2

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MaggieMye

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I'm not familiar with them, but anyone that thinks they know, when Scirpture tells us that NOone knows, is most likely a cult. Regardless, they are deceived.
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doubleedge

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that is The Most True feeling I have on the matter!
 
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doubleedge

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First some ground rules! Holy means "set appart" & Bible means "the books"! Holy Bible means "The Set Appart Books". The problem that the world is faced with today is in Deuteronomy 4:2. Now then, anunaki is the sumerian word for angel & Anu was the name of God. In the Bible, Sumer is called Shinar where babel was located (Genesis 10:10). This leads me to believe that anunaki are fallen & anu is lucifer. Hebrews 11:5 speaks of Enoch, Noa's great grandson. Little is known of this story because things have been added to & taken away from The Word of God. The "Book of Enoch" describes the plight of the fallen, whom the powers that be seem to worship.
 
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More evidence of the fall can be found in the books Isaiah 14:12-17 & Luke 10:17,18.
 
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ok the book of Enoch talks about Nephilim who were the children of women and Angels, Angels who came and mixed with the human race they were fallen angels demons, and they go back and forth between the first heaven and the third heaven with the other Angels who serve the Lord. now not that I believe all this, the book of Enoch was exluded from the canon of scripture though there are quotations from it in the new testament, now God flooded the earth it is said to rid the earth of Nephilim and the evil of mens hearts that was influanced, though these demons and fallen angels have been said to make them selves as Gods to some men after the great flood these are the aintant Gods who were the Gods of canan amonites and all those other groups who wershiped anyother god but the true God. there are consperacy about there interaction with man cind that they aid the rulers of the earth toward the end of the world giving power and doninion if they adhear to these higher beings all the false Gods of today are linked to these Gods it seems to be the view of pantheism, angels were made to apear as man and spiritual beings and to go from God to man doing the work of God for man, now here is my opinion if there are alians ( I dont know ) I would asume these fallen angels-demons to be it, with there abilaty to apear spiritual or human the bible says that satan mascerades as an angel of light, now we have the thing about people being taken by alians why is it every time they seem to do experaments with things that pertain to human reproduction HUH, Mabey these demons or fallen angels or Alians as you call them are working back toward what is called Niphilim, witch is the breed of these demons (Alians) through reproduction of themselves with the human race, so its all verry weird and goes a little outside the bounds of biblical study that we are used to it makes a little sense but I think someone who gets stuck in one area of study like this one or cults or prophecy or apocripha or anything like that will make you a little crazy let it move on and progress through the scripture with other studie dont forget the good news and the love of God that he has for you
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Pagie
MY BROTHER THE NEPHILIM WAS NOT ANGELS WHO SERVED THE LORD, TO SERVE THE LORD MEANS TO DO HIS WILL AND GOD'S WILL IS NOT TO ANGELS TO MAN, BUT TO JOIN MAN TO HIS SPIRIT. THE BOOK OF ENOCH WAS NOT INSPIRED BY GOD THATS WHY IT IS NOT CANNONIZED
 
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People who are fascinated with crows or owls usually are so affected because there is some reason, some foothold, of the occult in their life. Maggie
Or they are just people who love birds. I agree with alot you have to say, Definitely not this!!! I am a lover of BIRDS ALL birds! & yes i am fascinated with them & take great joy in them. I am a Holy spirit filled unposessed Lover of God & birds! thats all i got to say abou that. your sister in christ. marcia.
 
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Are there such things as aliens or UFOs?


Answer: By the term "aliens" let's assume beings capable of making moral choices, having intellect, emotion, and a will. First, a few scientific facts:

+ Men have sent spacecraft to every planet in our solar system, except Pluto. After observing these planets we have ruled out all but Mars and possibly a moon of Jupiter as being able to support life.

+ In 1976, the U.S. sent two landers to Mars. Each had instruments that could dig into the Martian sand and analyze it for any sign of "life." They found absolutely nothing. If you dug from the most barren desert on earth, or dug through the most frozen dirt in Antarctica, and analyzed the soil these, it would be teaming with micro-organism life! In 1997, the U.S. sent "Pathfinder" to the surface of Mars. This rover took more samples and conducted many more experiments. It also found absolutely no sign of life. Since that time, several more missions to Mars have been launched. Expect the same results.

+ Astronomers are constantly finding new “planets” in distant solar systems. Some propose that the existence of so many “planets” proves that there must be life somewhere else in the universe. The fact is, none of these “planets” have ever been proved to be anything close to a life-supporting planet. The tremendous distance between earth and these planets makes it impossible to make any judgments regarding their life-sustaining possibility. Knowing that only Earth can support life in our solar system, evolutionists want very badly to find another planet in another solar system to argue that life must also have evolved out there somewhere. There may be other "planets," out there somewhere, but we certainly know nothing intimately about them to verify if they could even remotely support "life."

So, what does the Bible say? The earth, and mankind, are unique in God's creation. Genesis 1 teaches that God created the earth before He even created the sun, the moon, or the stars. Acts 17:24, 26 states that "God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth,… has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their pre-appointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings."

After creation, mankind was without sin and everything in the world was "very good" (Genesis 1:31). When the first man sinned (Genesis 3) it caused the fall of mankind, which resulted in problems of all sorts, sickness, and death. Even though animals have no personal sin before God (they are not moral beings) they nevertheless suffer and even die (Romans 8:19-22). Jesus Christ died to remove the punishment that we deserve for our sin. When He returns, He will undo many aspects of the curse that has existed since Adam, and ultimately He will remove all aspects of the curse (Revelation 21-22). Note that Romans 8:19-22 states that all of creation eagerly waits for this time! It's important to also note that Christ came to earth to die, that He came to earth to die for mankind, and that He died only once (Hebrews 7:27; 9:26-28; 10:10).

Putting these truths together concisely: God created the earth and mankind unique. All of creation suffered as a result of the fall of man. Christ came to earth to offer Himself once and only once to pay for our sins. Not only will believers be delivered, but all of creation will be delivered as well.

Implications: If all of creation suffers, that means that any life apart from earth would also suffer. If, for the sake of argument, there exists moral beings on other planets, then they also suffer; and if not now, then someday they will surely suffer when everything will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat (2 Peter 3:10). If they had never sinned, then God would be unjust to punish them; but if they had sinned, and Christ could die only once (which He did on earth) then they are left in their sin, which would also be against the character of God (2 Peter 3:9). This leaves us with an unsolvable paradox . . . unless, of course, there are no moral beings outside of earth.

What about life forms on other planets that are non-moral and non-sentient? Could algae or even dogs and cats be present on an unknown planet? Presumably so, and it would not do any real harm to any biblical text. But it would certainly prove problematic when trying answer questions like, "Since all of creation suffers, what purpose would God have in creating suffering non-moral and non-sentient creatures on distant planets?

In conclusion, the Bible gives us no reason to believe that there is life elsewhere in the universe. In fact, the Bible gives us several key reasons why there cannot be. Yes, there are many strange and unexplainable things that take place. There is no reason, though, to attribute these phenomena to aliens or UFOs. If there is a discernable cause to these supposed events, it is likely spiritual, and more specifically, demonic in origin

A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions
 
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Leilaii425

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I dont believe in aliens, but i DO believe in marshians
 
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MY BROTHER THE NEPHILIM WAS NOT ANGELS WHO SERVED THE LORD, TO SERVE THE LORD MEANS TO DO HIS WILL AND GOD'S WILL IS NOT TO ANGELS TO MAN, BUT TO JOIN MAN TO HIS SPIRIT. THE BOOK OF ENOCH WAS NOT INSPIRED BY GOD THATS WHY IT IS NOT CANNONIZED
He said that the nephlim was the outcome of the perversions between the fallen angels and the daughters of men. He did not say that they were angels that served the Lord. Noah was "pure" in all his generations from Seth and that is why the Lord preserved him and his family. It is not hard for us to take it by faith that Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirt but the same people cannot accept the fact that the fallen angels who left there first habitation, did perverse things. As in the days of Noah, so is the coming of the son of man. Right now because of the knowledge being increased, there is not a perversion of genetics happening.
The book of Enoch contains scripture in it from Jude and Peter. The first church used the book of Enoch and treasured it until the church catholic scum churchfathers did not cannonize it. I am sure that the truth about fallen angels ruling and running the Roman Catholic Church that they did not want that known.
 
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He said that the nephlim was the outcome of the perversions between the fallen angels and the daughters of men. He did not say that they were angels that served the Lord. Noah was "pure" in all his generations from Seth and that is why the Lord preserved him and his family. It is not hard for us to take it by faith that Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirt but the same people cannot accept the fact that the fallen angels who left there first habitation, did perverse things. As in the days of Noah, so is the coming of the son of man. Right now because of the knowledge being increased, there is not a perversion of genetics happening.
The book of Enoch contains scripture in it from Jude and Peter. The first church used the book of Enoch and treasured it until the church catholic scum churchfathers did not cannonize it. I am sure that the truth about fallen angels ruling and running the Roman Catholic Church that they did not want that known.

I have never read any scripture that supports this and therefore reject it.
 
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Jezreel

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If you read the book of Jude and Peter when it tells how Jesus proclaimed himself to the spirits bound in chains in hell, there are quotes in those books taken from the book of Enoch. I am not recommending that you read the book of Enoch. I don't think it a good idea for any of you guys to read it. It goes into more detail of the end of the ages and it clashes with the end time theology that has been taught for over 100 years in organized religeon.
In Genesis it says that Noah was pure in all his generations.
 
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I too have come to the realization that the Book of Enoch has been mentioned in the bible and that there are many references to it in the new testament. Upon further research I have read the book of enoch and it is amazing to have further understanding into exactly what happened in Genesis Chapter 6 and how the fallen angels contributed to the corruption of earth and mankind. Read Jude Verse 6-7 and see how the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were compared to the fallen angels. Also for those that are saying that the book of Enoch is not scripture, how do you explain Enoch being described as prophesying in verse 14. How do you say that scripture being read and studied by early christians are now no longer scripture? Why have we put so must trust in the cannon put together by man rather than comparing scripture with scripture for ourselves?
 

Kathleen

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i agree with baptiimrw.
I think that people will blame aliens for our dissaperance of the chrisitans for the rapture
 
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I too have come to the realization that the Book of Enoch has been mentioned in the bible and that there are many references to it in the new testament. Upon further research I have read the book of enoch and it is amazing to have further understanding into exactly what happened in Genesis Chapter 6 and how the fallen angels contributed to the corruption of earth and mankind. Read Jude Verse 6-7 and see how the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were compared to the fallen angels. Also for those that are saying that the book of Enoch is not scripture, how do you explain Enoch being described as prophesying in verse 14. How do you say that scripture being read and studied by early christians are now no longer scripture? Why have we put so must trust in the cannon put together by man rather than comparing scripture with scripture for ourselves?
VERY interesting that you bring up this book of Enoch today the day after a family member brought it to my attention. This book is written in a way that is contrary to the word of God. Angels did not decide to sin and have sex with humans. You have been deceived, much like there would be deception if someone stumbled upon a stephen king book 2000 years from now and although it contains information that is correct and relevant to the time it is a book of fiction. I would not recommend study of this book to anyone as I find it to be a false or fictitous writing and not consistant at all with writings that are from the Lord.
 
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There are five common views regarding the identity of the Nephilim.
  1. They were the hybrid offspring of fallen angels and human women.
  2. They were the offspring of descendants of Seth with those of Cain.
  3. Webster's 1913 Dictionary defines the word simply as "Giant." Thus, any especially tall, powerful, large, or mighty man would be described in ancient times as Nephilim. Nephilim may simply mean "giant," champion, or strong man.
  4. The term might not refer to any specific race or group of people but is a label similar to "hero," a legendary figure, or "great man." The Bible itself describes the Nephilim as "Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown." In this view, the Bible tells us that Nephilim is a legendary or heroic figure, a mighty warrior, already renowned in legend by the time Moses wrote down Genesis. Using the Bible to define itself, Nephilim means a man of legend, one recounted in legendary tales.
  5. They are not historical figures and are ancient imagery with questionable meaning.[7]
 
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VERY interesting that you bring up this book of Enoch today the day after a family member brought it to my attention. This book is written in a way that is contrary to the word of God. Angels did not decide to sin and have sex with humans. You have been deceived, much like there would be deception if someone stumbled upon a stephen king book 2000 years from now and although it contains information that is correct and relevant to the time it is a book of fiction. I would not recommend study of this book to anyone as I find it to be a false or fictitous writing and not consistant at all with writings that are from the Lord.
Thanks for your reply. I don't believe I am deceived. I would like you to refer to the scriptures in Jude that refer to Enoch and cross reference them. Are you saying that Jude was also quoting from a book of fairy tales? You didn't give me scripture that proves that it isn't. In fact it seems the Word you hold in your hand proves otherwise. The Ethiopian church regards the book as a part of canon. What makes you think they are wrong about that?
 
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Well, we;ll agree then that I will stay immersed in the word of God not taking my focus off of Jesus & you can continue as you are. I've done my job. God Bless you & lead you to truth and the same for me!
 
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Thanks for your reply. I don't believe I am deceived. I would like you to refer to the scriptures in Jude that refer to Enoch and cross reference them. Are you saying that Jude was also quoting from a book of fairy tales? You didn't give me scripture that proves that it isn't. In fact it seems the Word you hold in your hand proves otherwise. The Ethiopian church regards the book as a part of canon. What makes you think they are wrong about that?
I think you could be a little more accurate concerning the logistics of Enoch and what was being quoted and from what source. It was concerning a prophesy of the second coming of Christ. Jude does not define the source of that prophesy other then from Enoch and not any book of Enoch. The prophecy was probably passed down but never recorded with the other OT prophesies in this area of the second coming of Christ. When it was included in the canon of scriptures in the epistle of Jude it was considered inspired because it passed the test of common knowledge that was not only accepted but documented with manuscript evidence, not necessarily or including the book of Enoch but separate from. It is a unique prophesy in that it was not supported directly by OT prophesy but it does not contradict OT prophesy concerning the second coming of Christ.

I am not going to get into the book of Enoch in relationship to Gen 6. It is what it is and there are many different determiners as to what the terms of these scriptures are referring to. Our interpretation of this should never provide a stumbling block to keep anyone in unbelief, so what ever conclusions we come to could be better considered as our opinion instead of our conviction. This stance does not compromise the truth but allows the individual to come the their own conclusions with respect to others. The book of Enoch may give us more information on this issue in Gen 6, but we should use discretion in relationship to God's inspired word and forgo dogmatism in this matter. I have an opinion but think it wise not to share it because of the controversy involved and the effect it could have on those not rooted in the faith.
 

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I have felt evil, that you could cut it with a knife, thats how thick it was!
A major part of my testimony is how the Lord (before I knew Him as such) revealed Himself to me through dreams. Some of these were absolutely horrible, at first. They came at a time when I was still searching yet was very much a part of the world. I've written most of them down and can recall one very vivid dream I had. I was lying in bed but very much awake (some call it sleep paralisis) I felt what I would describe as an overwhelming feeling of evil surrounding me (the description above is a wonderful example of what I felt and it reminded me of this dream). I was laying on my back, under the covers when suddenly I felt what seemed to be this large fingernail slowly scratching me starting at my feet and making it's way up and through all this, remember, I am very much aware but unable to move. Now when I say large fingernail, I'm talking about maybe something that seemed to be a foot long, six inches wide and, needless to say, I was absolutely freaking out. As the scratching reached about my midsection I suddenly cried out for God to help me and shouted over and over again, 'Jesus, help me, Jesus, help me.' Very soon after I began calling to Jesus for help, the scratching stopped, the fear/evil in the room was gone. Now to stop right there would be awesome enough, but God did so much more. Not only was the environment free from all evil, but God replaced it with an overwhelming peace....a joy that was so thick, you could cut it with a knife!! :) That was one of the ways that God ended up drawing me to Himself. Just thought I'd share.
 
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Well, we;ll agree then that I will stay immersed in the word of God not taking my focus off of Jesus & you can continue as you are. I've done my job. God Bless you & lead you to truth and the same for me!
We are all here to learn from God's word. My focus is on Jesus each and every day, but that doesn't cause me to cut off my desire to learn more about the scripture and the history of God's word and where it came from. I don't think we as christians should limit our knowledge of truth and fear of losing our faith from researching topics such as these. If anything this should build our faith as we learn more about how our scriptures came to be where they are today in the bible we hold in our hands.
You did your job? You haven't explained why you came to the conclusion you came to. All you said was that the book of enoch was a bunch of stories. From my perspective that is not doing much except showing me you are closed off to any possibilities that I brought up about there being truth to the book of Enoch. God bless you too, and I pray that He does indeed continue to lead us to the truth and I thank Him for sites like this one we are able to discuss topics that we might not get to discuss in our own local church groups.

Check this link out for some interesting info on the book of Enoch.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15959313/A-Study-on-the-Book-of-Enoch-as-Scripture
 
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