Are Christians given empowerment to do all the works Jesus did? Bethel and their resurrection claims

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Are all believers, individually, empowered to perform all the miracles of Christ at will?

  • Yes, all believers are empowered to perform all the miracles of Christ at will.

    Votes: 8 32.0%
  • No, but some believers are empowered to perform all the miracles of Christ at will

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • No, but collective prayer of the saints and individuals sometimes result in miracles

    Votes: 14 56.0%
  • No, and collective prayer of the saints and individuals never result in miracles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • Total voters
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EleventhHour

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If I'm not mistaken someone mentioned him to me before and he is an observant Jew.

I am not really into their views on suffering. For example, a Rabbi Kushner wrote a book that basically said God isn't in control, and that's why suffering occurs in the world. In other words, God doesn't want it to happen but it happens anyways.

It is called "When Bad Things Happen to Good People".

Well, first issue is there are no good people.

Second issue is, God is in control.

I consider the Jewish people today to be, essentially, unbelievers, other than Messianic Jews.
Yes I agree, sometimes it is good to read the opposite view to sharpen one's own mind on a topic.

Victor Frankl is deep read unlike Kushner... I like that myself... well I used to.
 
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Please elaborate on the aspects of charismatic theology that make you feel uncomfortable.
One thing I would say .When I see brothers and sisters falling backward. . slain in the spirit as sign that God has designed of those who hold to a tradition of men above the tradition of God as it is written. Making it without effect or making baby noises without meaning.

I would suggest. Please elaborate on the aspects of charismatic theology that make you feel comfortable. Why fall back in the spirit of judgement as it is written? We can look to the foundation of charismatic theology . God mocking those who mock him.

The people say, “Who does he think he is trying to teach and explain his message to? Does he think we are babies who were at their mother’s breast only a very short time ago? He speaks to us as though we were babies: “Saw lasaw saw lasaw Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw Ze’er sham ze’er sham.” So God will use this strange way of talking, and he will use other languages to speak to these people. In the past he spoke to them and said, “Here is a resting place. Let those who are tired come and rest. This is the place of peace.”But they would not listen to him. So the Lord’s words will be senseless sounds to them:“Saw lasaw saw lasaw. Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw. Ze’er sham ze’er sham. "When the people try to walk, they will fall backwards. They will be defeated, trapped, and captured. Isaiah 28 11-13
 

Lightskin

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Please elaborate on the aspects of charismatic theology that make you feel comfortable.
I never said any aspect of charismatic theology makes me feel comfortable or uncomfortable. UWC is staunchly grounded in his views so I asked him why he did not like charismatics.

He despises charismatics in the same way I despise Calvinism. The bottom line is, Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior just as He is Lord and Savior of everyone who puts their faith in Him. Some people don’t believe that; I take it to the bank times infinity.