Are native american the lost tribes?

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kenisyes

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The lost tribes of Israel are also native Americans, but also the Israelites that came into America on slave ships and were oppressed along with the Natives. God gave Israel a severe punishment, but now the end of their captivity will come. Israel will no longer see death nor will they any longer hear the hiss of the nations.
Show me the proof, please. I could just as easily claim they are the Druids, or the eskimos.
 
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Show me the proof, please. I could just as easily claim they are the Druids, or the eskimos.
Here are the prophecies that matched the Jews, which came into America on slave ships.

Deuteronomy 28:54"The sensitive and very refined man among you will be hostile toward his brother, toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the rest of his children whom he leaves behind,so that he will not give any of them the flesh of his children whom he will eat, because he has nothing left in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates."

If you look in the projects where most of the lost tribes of Israel reside God said as a curse, they will be very hostile towards their brother. Everyday in the ghettos the Jews are shooting each other and hate his own brother for the littlest reasons. He also has children with a woman but then leaves her because he feels he is not worthy enough to take care of them due to the state in which his enemy has put the Israelites through, so it will be hard for them to care for their children as other nations. Both the Israelite man and woman are out of error.

Deuteronomy 28:56"The tender and delicate woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because of her delicateness and sensitivity, will refuse[SUP][a][/SUP] to the husband of her bosom, and to her son and her daughter,"

The Israelite women of today show no respect to their husbands which is why, the lost Israelite women are known for being single parents(Also as stated in previous verse, for other reasons also). Look in the projects, it is one parent households, society through the "women empowerment movement" and Satan has put in the hearts of the Israelite woman "you do not need an husband, chase him away and you will be better off without him. The government will take better care of you and your children then he can"

Deuteronomy 28:68“And the Lord will take you back to Egypt in ships, by the way of which I said to you, ‘You shall never see it again.’ And there you shall be offered for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.

When the Israelites arrived to America(America is spiritual Egypt look at your dollar bill, Obilisk white house, it is also Babylon) as slaves on ships, this also fufilled prophecy. There God said the slaves would be auctioned off which happened, every word of God is true and not one is a lie, nor will fail. The Most High also stated, "no one will buy you" buy is synonymous with "redeem" which means to save. God said no one will be able to save them. All these curses followed the Israelites when they came into America, and in all the coast in which they are dispersed.
 
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"As the sands of the sea and the stars of heaven".
The sands are terrestrial, earthbound, it doesn't matter who they are.
The stars are in the cosmos, in the firmament, these are those who were redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.
This is the important part, for Abram was a father of many nations who have risen and fallen; but Abraham is the father of faith.
- Be ye redeemed.
 
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kenisyes

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Here are the prophecies that matched the Jews, which came into America on slave ships.

Deuteronomy 28:54"The sensitive and very refined man among you will be hostile toward his brother, toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the rest of his children whom he leaves behind,so that he will not give any of them the flesh of his children whom he will eat, because he has nothing left in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates."

If you look in the projects where most of the lost tribes of Israel reside God said as a curse, they will be very hostile towards their brother. Everyday in the ghettos the Jews are shooting each other and hate his own brother for the littlest reasons. He also has children with a woman but then leaves her because he feels he is not worthy enough to take care of them due to the state in which his enemy has put the Israelites through, so it will be hard for them to care for their children as other nations. Both the Israelite man and woman are out of error.

Deuteronomy 28:56"The tender and delicate woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because of her delicateness and sensitivity, will refuse[SUP][a][/SUP] to the husband of her bosom, and to her son and her daughter,"

The Israelite women of today show no respect to their husbands which is why, the lost Israelite women are known for being single parents(Also as stated in previous verse, for other reasons also). Look in the projects, it is one parent households, society through the "women empowerment movement" and Satan has put in the hearts of the Israelite woman "you do not need an husband, chase him away and you will be better off without him. The government will take better care of you and your children then he can"

Deuteronomy 28:68“And the Lord will take you back to Egypt in ships, by the way of which I said to you, ‘You shall never see it again.’ And there you shall be offered for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.

When the Israelites arrived to America(America is spiritual Egypt look at your dollar bill, Obilisk white house, it is also Babylon) as slaves on ships, this also fufilled prophecy. There God said the slaves would be auctioned off which happened, every word of God is true and not one is a lie, nor will fail. The Most High also stated, "no one will buy you" buy is synonymous with "redeem" which means to save. God said no one will be able to save them. All these curses followed the Israelites when they came into America, and in all the coast in which they are dispersed.
Are you saying the lost tribes are among the black people? Jews do not do the behvior you mentioned, they do not hwoot each other, they did not come here on slave ships, they do not live in projects, and most couples remain together for life. I have to assume you mean certain of the black people, and you are referring to street gangs.

The topic you quote begins in Deut. 28:52. The slaves were never taken from besieged cities; they were hunted on the run. The tribes that were taken as slaves did not even live in walled cities. I have heard certain African tribes practice cannibalism, but I have never heard of an instance in America.

Further, these problems are not the problems of those who came to America in slave ships, they are the problems of all of America. Gangs are made up of poor of all ethnic backgounds. Rich and poor alike couples split up all the time, and the children are victimized.

And the prophecy that "no one will buy you" is certainly untrue of the slaves. People bought all of them; that's why they were slaves.

This prophecy does not apply to any group in America. Certain aspects of it have applied to some of every group of people, from everywhere throughout history.

Trying to prove America is the spiritual Egypt by looking at the obelisk, is like trying to prove America is the spiritual New Zealand by looking at the kiwi fruit at the grocery counter. We have lots of things here from lots of places. Rev. 11:8 places that honor elsewhere.
 
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A very large amount of the lost tribe of Israel was carried here as slaves, yes they are black. But they also go by bywords such as Hispanic, Dominican(which means "dogs of God") Putero Rican. I have to tell you the truth. Its 2013 and its pretty sad to see, how no one sees the who the "true" chosen of God are, or they are simply in denial. We have to remember Satan is still here and is not destroyed yet, you must learn not to accept everything you learn from man, for even Satan comes as an angel of light (pastor) and will lead many to lies and death. See who the scriptures match and who it does not. You also stated that,

"The topic you quote begins in Deut. 28:52. The slaves were never taken from besieged cities; they were hunted on the run. The tribes that were taken as slaves did not even live in walled cities. I have heard certain African tribes practice cannibalism, but I have never heard of an instance in America."

Not all black people are African, the Egyptians were African the Hebrews were not. But they looked similar. Deuteronomy 28:52 actually started from the Roman persecution, over 100 million Jews fled into west Africa seeking to blend in, and also many other parts of Africa. Later on they were found hiding among the nations, they were easy to pick out because they spoke Hebrew and kept the customs of God, but sadly they did not heed to the warning of Deuteronomy 28 so they had to suffer the punishments and still to this day.

You also stated "Further, these problems are not the problems of those who came to America in slave ships, they are the problems of all of America. Gangs are made up of poor of all ethnic backgounds. Rich and poor alike couples split up all the time, and the children are victimized."

No other people, I tell you no other people wants to kill each other over a "look" more than blacks in America. The curse is so bad, that if two israelite brothers walk by one smiles in honesty, the other will take that offensive and want to kill him. Or he can step on his sneakers and take his brother life, their eyes are very evil towards each other. In their own neighborhoods they slay each other more than the death of Iraq every year.

you also staed "And the prophecy that "no one will buy you" is certainly untrue of the slaves. People bought all of them; that's why they were slaves."

Buy is also synonymous with "redeem" which means to "save" so he is saying no one will be able to save these people.

You also stated"This prophecy does not apply to any group in America. Certain aspects of it have applied to some of every group of people, from everywhere throughout history."

No other, no other people on earth! shoot their own brother down almost every day in their "own neighborhoods" but the lost Israelite. America is spiritual Egypt, take a look at your dollar bill if you have chance, if the Obelisk is not enough maybe the pyramid will help you. I am here only to help people see the truth.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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native americans are not descendants of the lost israelite tribes...native americans are descendants of magog son of japheth...along with much of the rest of the world...

personally i suspect that the modern kurds are the descendants of the lost israelite tribes...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Ezra 2:70 KJV
(70) So the priests, and the Levites, and some of the people, and the singers, and the porters, and the Nethinims, dwelt in their cities, and all Israel in their cities.
Ezra 3:1 KJV
(1) And when the seventh month was come, and the children of Israel were in the cities, the people gathered themselves together as one man to Jerusalem.
Ezra 4:3 KJV
(3) But Zerubbabel, and Jeshua, and the rest of the chief of the fathers of Israel, said unto them, Ye have nothing to do with us to build an house unto our God; but we ourselves together will build unto the LORD God of Israel, as king Cyrus the king of Persia hath commanded us.
Ezra 6:17 KJV
(17) And offered at the dedication of this house of God an hundred bullocks, two hundred rams, four hundred lambs; and for a sin offering for all Israel, twelve he goats, according to the number of the tribes of Israel.


This is after the captivity and we see the writer says all Israel not just Judah. Also we see all tribes present.
around this time the term 'israel' was becoming synonymous with the people of judah...judah being the only ones left of the original nation of israel...and carrying on the nation in their name...

it also does not say that all twelve tribes are present...it only says a sin offering was made for all twelve tribes...wherever they were...

in any case you are missing the point...even if there were a handful of representatives from each of the other tribes...such as refugees from the northern kingdom who had escaped into judah prior to the exile...the vast majority of the people of those tribes were still unaccounted for somewhere in the former assyrian empire...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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The lost tribes of Israel are also native Americans, but also the Israelites that came into America on slave ships and were oppressed along with the Natives. God gave Israel a severe punishment, but now the end of their captivity will come. Israel will no longer see death nor will they any longer hear the hiss of the nations.
well it took you longer to confirm my suspicions than the last person to promote the racist 'black israelism' agenda here...but there you have it...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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and if you really want to know...black people are descendants of cush son of ham...
 
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well it took you longer to confirm my suspicions than the last person to promote the racist 'black israelism' agenda here...but there you have it...
Nope the guys you refer to are "ravenous wolves" they preach that every other nation but Israel will go to hell, even if they repent. I am not at all saying that, I am just trying to promote truth. I have never said anything close to what the ravenous wolves say. Its not about black and whites, it is about truth.
 
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and if you really want to know...black people are descendants of cush son of ham...
Ok if black people are descendants of Ham and Cush, and Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian...and also Paul. What does that tell you? Not all dark people are the same.
 
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kenisyes

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A very large amount of the lost tribe of Israel was carried here as slaves, yes they are black. But they also go by bywords such as Hispanic, Dominican(which means "dogs of God") Putero Rican. I have to tell you the truth. Its 2013 and its pretty sad to see, how no one sees the who the "true" chosen of God are, or they are simply in denial. We have to remember Satan is still here and is not destroyed yet, you must learn not to accept everything you learn from man, for even Satan comes as an angel of light (pastor) and will lead many to lies and death. See who the scriptures match and who it does not. You also stated that,

"The topic you quote begins in Deut. 28:52. The slaves were never taken from besieged cities; they were hunted on the run. The tribes that were taken as slaves did not even live in walled cities. I have heard certain African tribes practice cannibalism, but I have never heard of an instance in America."

Not all black people are African, the Egyptians were African the Hebrews were not. But they looked similar. Deuteronomy 28:52 actually started from the Roman persecution, over 100 million Jews fled into west Africa seeking to blend in, and also many other parts of Africa. Later on they were found hiding among the nations, they were easy to pick out because they spoke Hebrew and kept the customs of God, but sadly they did not heed to the warning of Deuteronomy 28 so they had to suffer the punishments and still to this day.

You also stated "Further, these problems are not the problems of those who came to America in slave ships, they are the problems of all of America. Gangs are made up of poor of all ethnic backgounds. Rich and poor alike couples split up all the time, and the children are victimized."

No other people, I tell you no other people wants to kill each other over a "look" more than blacks in America. The curse is so bad, that if two israelite brothers walk by one smiles in honesty, the other will take that offensive and want to kill him. Or he can step on his sneakers and take his brother life, their eyes are very evil towards each other. In their own neighborhoods they slay each other more than the death of Iraq every year.

you also staed "And the prophecy that "no one will buy you" is certainly untrue of the slaves. People bought all of them; that's why they were slaves."

Buy is also synonymous with "redeem" which means to "save" so he is saying no one will be able to save these people.

You also stated"This prophecy does not apply to any group in America. Certain aspects of it have applied to some of every group of people, from everywhere throughout history."

No other, no other people on earth! shoot their own brother down almost every day in their "own neighborhoods" but the lost Israelite. America is spiritual Egypt, take a look at your dollar bill if you have chance, if the Obelisk is not enough maybe the pyramid will help you. I am here only to help people see the truth.
Just quoted it to let you know I saw it. There is nothing in it of value to be answered.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Ok if black people are descendants of Ham and Cush, and Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian...and also Paul. What does that tell you? Not all dark people are the same.
the bible never actually says anyone thought moses was an egyptian...try not to be influenced by 'the prince of egypt' and demille's 'the ten commandments'...i love both movies but that bit of palace intrigue is purely creative license and not from the bible...
 
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the bible never actually says anyone thought moses was an egyptian...try not to be influenced by 'the prince of egypt' and demille's 'the ten commandments'...i love both movies but that bit of palace intrigue is purely creative license and not from the bible...
But you forgot that Paul was mistaken for the son of Ham, an Egyptian. But here is a verse from the Bible, where the women thought Moses was an Hammite or an Egyptian.

Exodus 2:19 "And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock."
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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But you forgot that Paul was mistaken for the son of Ham, an Egyptian. But here is a verse from the Bible, where the women thought Moses was an Hammite or an Egyptian.

Exodus 2:19 "And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock."
in that case he was most likely dressed like an egyptian...so they assumed...it probably had nothing to do with anything else in his appearance...
 
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dus10

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Charokees may be. But whites i.e celts anglo saxons...are the decendancs of israel.
 
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in that case he was most likely dressed like an egyptian...so they assumed...it probably had nothing to do with anything else in his appearance...
When the Egyptians sent Moses off, they stripped everything that is Egyptian about him away including his garment. They did not send him off in the appearance of an Egyptian. So in that case, I guess Paul was dressed as an Egyptian when he was mistaken for one.

Acts 21:38 "Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?"
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Charokees may be. But whites i.e celts anglo saxons...are the decendancs of israel.
there needs to be a facepalm emoticon...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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When the Egyptians sent Moses off, they stripped everything that is Egyptian about him away including his garment. They did not send him off in the appearance of an Egyptian. So in that case, I guess Paul was dressed as an Egyptian when they saw him.
it actually doesn't say in the bible that the egyptians sent moses away...again your notions are influenced by the movies...

the bible says moses fled...in all likelihood he didn't have time to change...
 
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it actually doesn't say in the bible that the egyptians sent moses away...again your notions are influenced by the movies...

the bible says moses fled...in all likelihood he didn't have time to change...
So was Paul running around dressed like an Egyptian? My point is that both, these men were mistaken for a son of Ham aka Egyptian.