are romans the same as the edomites ? are us caucasians edom ?

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i ask this because there are several books on the issue. like this one 51qm3cy7k2L._.jpg
 
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Re: are romans the same as the edomites ? and if does are us caucasians edom

and if thats the case why does the lord say he hates us in romans 9 vs 13 ?
 
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It's not about the person but what he did! An idea or thought is like a spirit. It lives on in whomever it influences. Study what he did that still carries on to this day.
 
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Modern day Edom is Turkey.
 
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Edom was destroyed. There are no edomites. In those days, when an enemy came and wiped you out. they wiped out everything about you and assimilated you into their culture. Slept with your women, and destroyed your bloodline. There are no modern day edomites.
 
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I have always related the "Edomites"to the descendents of Ishmael. i.e.The Muslims.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Edom was destroyed. There are no edomites. In those days, when an enemy came and wiped you out. they wiped out everything about you and assimilated you into their culture. Slept with your women, and destroyed your bloodline. There are no modern day edomites.
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so if edom is extinct why is the lord saying when he returns he would take vengeance against edom in the book of isaiah chapter 34 ? and seeing as the lord has not returned yet then edom ( idumea ) must still be around right ?
 
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KJVAPOCRYPHA said:
so if edom is extinct why is the lord saying when he returns he would take vengeance against edom in the book of isaiah chapter 34 ? and seeing as the lord has not returned yet then edom ( idumea ) must still be around right ?
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Read the book of Obadiah. IT is all about the end-time judgment on Edom.
 
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john832 said:
Read the book of Obadiah. IT is all about the end-time judgment on Edom.
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but we are not at the end time yet. so edom is still around somewhere. and if you you read the book it goes into details how the edomites are caucasians. the book was written in the 1800s. the book i put the picture of, that is
 
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KJVAPOCRYPHA said:
but we are not at the end time yet. so edom is still around somewhere. and if you you read the book it goes into details how the edomites are caucasians. the book was written in the 1800s. the book i put the picture of, that is
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You pretty sure of this are you?
 
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john832 said:
You pretty sure of this are you?
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a 100 percent sure. this is not a question of if God hates caucasians because he clearly says he does in romans 9 vs 13. this is an issue of looking for a way out. i think the hate is just a blanket statement and does not cover every caucasian. i am looking to be one of those not covered.
 
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God does not judge men by their skin color. Men's hearts are all the same color. If that's the premise of the book why read it? Your time is better spent reading the bible. You knew that right?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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