Are some more blessed than others in heaven?

[Truthnightmare]

Well, perhaps half of the question has been answered within Christ very words.

For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. 2He agreed to pay them a denariusa for the day and sent them into his vineyard.
3About the third hourb he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. 4‘You also go into my vineyard,’ he said, ‘and I will pay you whatever is right.’ 5So they went.
He went out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hourc and did the same thing.
6About the eleventh hourd he went out and found still others standing around. ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’ he asked.
7‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered.
So he told them, ‘You also go into my vineyard.’e
8When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, starting with the last ones hired and moving on to the first.’

It would seem there are many who have served the Lord their entire life, and yet, right before one dies he can repent and receive the gift of heaven as the one who as served for a lifetime.

But what will they be wearing? If the righteous acts make up the fine linen, the odds of the one who served the Lord their whole life may appear with a more flamboyant attire. Of course there are variables of said reasoning.

 

[Cameron143]

Well, perhaps half of the question has been answered within Christ very words.

For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. 2He agreed to pay them a denariusa for the day and sent them into his vineyard.
3About the third hourb he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. 4‘You also go into my vineyard,’ he said, ‘and I will pay you whatever is right.’ 5So they went.
He went out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hourc and did the same thing.
6About the eleventh hourd he went out and found still others standing around. ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’ he asked.
7‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered.
So he told them, ‘You also go into my vineyard.’e
8When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, starting with the last ones hired and moving on to the first.’

It would seem there are many who have served the Lord their entire life, and yet, right before one dies he can repent and receive the gift of heaven as the one who as served for a lifetime.

But what will they be wearing? If the righteous acts make up the fine linen, the odds of the one who served the Lord their whole life may appear with a more flamboyant attire. Of course there are variables of said reasoning.

I'm getting a robe of many colors. Actually, I think the white is symbolic of the purity of Christ.

 

[evyaniy]

Well, perhaps half of the question has been answered within Christ very words.

For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. 2He agreed to pay them a denariusa for the day and sent them into his vineyard.
3About the third hourb he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. 4‘You also go into my vineyard,’ he said, ‘and I will pay you whatever is right.’ 5So they went.
He went out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hourc and did the same thing.
6About the eleventh hourd he went out and found still others standing around. ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’ he asked.
7‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered.
So he told them, ‘You also go into my vineyard.’e
8When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, starting with the last ones hired and moving on to the first.’

It would seem there are many who have served the Lord their entire life, and yet, right before one dies he can repent and receive the gift of heaven as the one who as served for a lifetime.

But what will they be wearing? If the righteous acts make up the fine linen, the odds of the one who served the Lord their whole life may appear with a more flamboyant attire. Of course there are variables of said reasoning.

that's an interesting thing about humility. it don't care for flamboyance at all. it will never be about outdoing one another. it will be about appreciating each other. What about the millions if not billions of aborted children who never had a chance. We will have to wait and see how it will be. The best part is we have a righteous and just Judge Who even offered His life so we can be there. His judgments are trustworthy and faithful. We can count on Him.

 

[Truthnightmare]

that's an interesting thing about humility. it don't care for flamboyance at all. it will never be about outdoing one another. it will be about appreciating each other. What about the millions if not billions of aborted children who never had a chance. We will have to wait and see how it will be. The best part is we have a righteous and just Judge Who even offered His life so we can be there. His judgments are trustworthy and faithful. We can count on Him.

Not flamboyant in the sense of arrogance, or lack of humility.
1. (of a person or their behavior) tending to attract attention because of their exuberance,
2. (especially of clothing) noticeable because brightly colored,

 

[oyster67]

It must first be made clear that salvation is fully paid for by Christ's work on the cross for those whom believe. No man by his own deeds can work his own salvation, " For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" {Rom 3:23}, and, " For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" {Rom 6:23}. But AFTER Salvation, in Heaven, the ‘saints’ (us in our eternal spiritual bodies after overcoming on the Great Judgment Day) are given certain rewards (clothed in certain garments) according to our good deeds (some more than others, though they all be in Heaven). There is very little written of this, but perhaps the below several Scriptures may shed some light:

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Matt 5:19​

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (KJV)​

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Luke 7:28​

28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he. (KJV)​

Rev 22:12​

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. (KJV)​

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II Jn 1:8​

8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. (KJV)​

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Matt 5:12​

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. (KJV)​

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Matt 6:20​

20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: (KJV)​

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Mark 4:8​

8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred. (KJV)​

Rev 19:8​

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. (KJV)​

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Rev 3:4-5​

4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.​

5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. (KJV)​

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Rev 3:18​

18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. (KJV)​

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Ps 132:9​

9 Let thy priests be clothed with righteousness; and let thy saints shout for joy. (KJV)​

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Rev 7:13-15​

13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?​

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.​

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. (KJV)​

Salvation is free. Crowns are not.


1 Corinthians 3:15 Context

12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Salvation is free. Crowns are not.


1 Corinthians 3:15 Context

12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Suffer loss🤔

 

[oyster67]

Suffer loss🤔

...or receive reward (v.14).

 

[oyster67]

Suffer loss🤔

But not loss of salvation (v.15).

 

[Truthnightmare]

...or receive reward (v.14).

What do you believe that loss would be? It’s not salvation or heaven.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Ecclesiastes1-17-18

Indeed, very familiar with the scripture😞

 

[oyster67]

What do you believe that loss would be? It’s not salvation or heaven.

Scripture speaks of different kinds of crowns in various places.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Scripture speaks of different kinds of crowns in various places.

Indeed, so in this scenario the works of a man may or may not contribute to the crown he receives or doesn’t receive, can’t the same be said for our apparel…..

 

[oyster67]

Indeed, so in this scenario the works of a man may or may not contribute to the crown he receives or doesn’t receive, can’t the same be said for our apparel…..

We all receive white robes if we are in the Church when the Rapture happens.

 

[Truthnightmare]

We all receive white robes if we are in the Church when the Rapture happens.

I don’t believe in a rapture, but it sounds like you're saying even those whom works are burned up will not lose there salvation and will still receive a robe, but how do we explain the following…

You provided….
Corinthians 3 Context

12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

It seems to be a type of punishment if your foundation isn’t gold….

Revelation 3:18 "I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see."

If your works are burned up, you will receive your salvation, but why would you be naked, if you received a robe?

 

[oyster67]

it sounds like you're saying even those whom works are burned up will not lose there salvation and will still receive a robe

Yup. You must remember that works are not what saves a man from death and hell in the first place. It is faith in Jesus and what He accomplished for us on the cross. We must continue to walk in the light, but that is a faith thing.

It seems to be a type of punishment if your foundation isn’t gold….

Loss of reward (crowns etc...), but not loss of salvation. Again, SALVATION IS BASED ON FAITH, NOT WORKS.

Revelation 3:18 "I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see."

If your works are burned up, you will receive your salvation, but why would you be naked, if you received a robe?

You just pulled a bait and switch...
Revelation 3 is talking about the foundation. (Faith.)
1 Corinthians is talking about what is built upon that foundation. (Works.)

 

[Truthnightmare]

Yup. You must remember that works are not what saves a man from death and hell in the first place. It is faith in Jesus and what He accomplished for us on the cross. We must continue to walk in the light, but that is a faith thing.


Loss of reward (crowns etc...), but not loss of salvation. Again, SALVATION IS BASED ON FAITH, NOT WORKS.


You just pulled a bait and switch...
Revelation 3 is talking about the foundation. (Faith.)
1 Corinthians is talking about what is built upon that foundation. (Works.)

No bait and switch, just a variable. Let me ask in this manner…. Does believe in Jesus equal salvation? Or must you believe more than just He lived?

 

[oyster67]

No bait and switch, just a variable. Let me ask in this manner…. Does believe in Jesus equal salvation? Or must you believe more than just He lived?

The kind of beleif spoken of in places like John 3:16 is more than just an acknowledgement of His existence. It's like the story of the high-wire walker and his wheelbarrow...

"Do you believe that I can wheel this wheel-barrow to the other side?" He asked one man. "Oh yes!" replied the man. The wire walker then asked the man to get into the wheelbarrow. That is the kind of belief Jesus is looking for.

 

[Truthnightmare]

The kind of beleif spoken of in places like John 3:16 is more than just an acknowledgement of His existence. It's like the story of the high-wire walker and his wheelbarrow...

"Do you believe that I can wheel this wheel-barrow to the other side?" He asked one man. "Oh yes!" replied the man. The wire walker then asked the man to get into the wheelbarrow. That is the kind of belief Jesus is looking for.

Agreed…

Ahhh so salvation is not just based on faith… But a certain type of faith. Believing that Jesus is Lord is not a free pass to heaven…

Luke
And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God.

 

[oyster67]

Believing that Jesus is Lord is not a free pass to heaven…

It is allowing Him to be Lord of our life. That is what Lordship implies.


Matthew 7:
18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

Many today have a religion, but no relationship.

Revelation 3:20
“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”