Are the Trumpet sounding

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Shilo

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Could each Trumpet be a period of time that keeps getting shorter as we go like birth pains. Just want to see what others think I am not saying this is the answer. There are alot of partial fulfillments and that could be all this is.

Revelation Trumpets
Trumpet 1 Rev 8:7
The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.
WW I
First time airplanes used in war on this scale. Bombs and gunfire, as bombs fell to the earth they mingled with blood. This is the first time a scorch earth policy was used. The Russians and Germans made sure nothing was left behind when they retreated.
Trumpet 2 Rev 8:8-9
8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
WWII
The Bombing of Hiroshima, a country in the sea and also a gentile nation. One third of all ships in this war were destroyed.
Trumpet Rev 8:10-11
Then the third angel sounded: And a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 11 The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the water, because it was made bitter.
Chernobyl = wormwood 1986
People died from drinking the water after this happened. The Chernobyl nuclear power plant is located next to the Pripyat River and that feeds into the Dnipro river, One of the largest surface water systems in Europe. Lakes and ground water were also affected. There are to this day more people in that area that get cancer.
Trumpet 4 Rev 8:12
The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.
Gulf war 1991
Darkness from smoke from the oil fires covered Western Asia from about the end of February to end of June. Some say it was 5 months. It is also said because it was the desert that the green of the earth was not harmed. The allies’ army did not go to war until after the smoke had already darkened the sky. The locust and the scorpions are thought to be the weapons of the Allie forces. The British armored vehicles at that time were called scorpions. The people of western Asia are mostly Islamic people so they did not have the seal of GOD in their forehead. It was shameful in Islamic culture for people to surrender and not be a martyred. The war lasted more then 5months August 1990 – Febuary 1991 but it was not really considered over until November 1995. If this is taken as the 5th trumpet that would make the allied forces under the authority of the king of the bottomless pit. This does not fit completely with the 5th trumpet so this must be the 4th trumpet.

Ezekiel war 38-39 Israel can now build a Temple
Rev 8:13Then I looked, and I heard an eagle flying in mid heaven, saying with a loud voice, "Woe, woe, woe to those who dwell on the earth, because of the remaining blasts of the trumpet of the three angels who are about to sound
Rev 12:14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach

Trumpet 5 Rev 9:1-11
King from the bottomless pit is in power and making war,
Revelation 13 Beast comes out of the sea. The sea can also be known as the bottomless pit depending on how it is used. Mortally wounded means he died and this is how he can come up out of the bottomless pit.
Trumpet 6
Last war
Trumpet 7
Rapture
Start of the bowls of GOD’s wrath.

 
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Rev. from ch. 6 to 19 is all about the 3.5 yrs. of tribulation, the bowl judgements and trumpets that are YHVH's wrath poured out on the wicked will all be during the last part of trib. Because before YHVH's wrath, we have the time of satan's wrath as Rev. 12 states.
 
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nath1234

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havent looked into this much but i thought it was in the last 3.5years as Avinu said but i dont realy have any reasons so interested to see what everyone comes up with.

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Laodicea

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The book of Revelation reveals events from John's time to the end time
The trumpets are judgements that warn the world while the plagues are judgements that punish the world. The trumpets again use symbolic language. The book of revelation is not in chronological order.
 
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peterT

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Rev. from ch. 6 to 19 is all about the 3.5 yrs. of tribulation, the bowl judgements and trumpets that are YHVH's wrath poured out on the wicked will all be during the last part of trib. Because before YHVH's wrath, we have the time of satan's wrath as Rev. 12 states.
I would agree with most of that Avinu except for the bowls of the wrath of God.

Rv15;1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, [and] over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

There we are stand on the sea of glass after getting the victory over the beast his image and his mark Then the seven angels having the seven last plagues pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the wicked that have the mark and upon the seat of the beast.

Rv16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.

2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped his image.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

And as for the 7 seals I think they are opened before the last 3 ½ years for great tribulation
Jesus called the time pried before for great tribulation “the beginning of sorrows”.


Matt24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these [are] the beginning of sorrows.

Sounds like the seals to me.

Rv6:3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

4 And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
 

Shilo

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In Danie 7 there are 4 beast we are also told in Daniel 7:12 tree of the beast we stripped of their authority but not killed. The 4 beast are around untill the end.I know they are not the same beast in revelation because they are in heaven but it does make you think 4 evil beast and 4 beast from heaven. In the seals you have 4 beast saying come and see and 4 beast White, red, black, gray.

The beast in heaven are the same beast on the banners of the lead tribes in numbers 2
Just thinking mabe the seals and Trumpets are the samething just a more information.
 
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Jeremiah 4:19
(19) My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war.

Revelation 8:7
(7) The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.


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eternally-gratefull

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The trumpet judgments are the start of "Gods wrath" on earth. they will follow the birth pangs, and occur during the last 3 1/2 years, in a time called 'jacobs trouble" or "gods wrath" or a time of "God's testing"

right now we are in a time where God is patient, allowing evil to overspread the earth. He does it he says so people can still be saved, but there will be a time Scripture says when god will not longer be patient, and he repays evil mankind for all his sins, These judgments spoken of in revelation will be that time.

we are in the birth pangs today, I have no doubt, look at all the major earthquakes, the knowledge of men etc etc increasing exponentially just as prophesied. but as Christ said, this is just the beginning of sorrows.

The tribulation period is not just a period of satans war against the "womans offspring" it is also Gods wrath poured out on evil. that is why it will be so great, "such as never been seen before" Scripture says. It will be the final battle between spiritual forces until Christ returns.
 
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Rev. from ch. 6 to 19 is all about the 3.5 yrs. of tribulation, the bowl judgements and trumpets that are YHVH's wrath poured out on the wicked will all be during the last part of trib. Because before YHVH's wrath, we have the time of satan's wrath as Rev. 12 states.
Spot on Avinu, spot on! You're one of the very few that I know that YHVH has revealed this. The Ruach ha' Kodesh is the revealer of secrets and with YHVH is the interpetation.
 
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Thank you prophecyman, No disrespect to anyone here. But I think some just make it more complicated than it actually is. Sometimes when you see the sky is blue, that's just it, it's blue, no more, no less.

Psalm 119:130 (Hebrew text) "The words You inscribed give light, and grant understanding to the simple."

If YHVH intended His word to be difficult to understand, then this verse wouldn't exist. If He says the simple can understand, then it is simple. Problem is humans try to make it look like it's special revelation too much. It says what it says, and we need to get out of the way. LOL Shalom
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Thank you prophecyman, No disrespect to anyone here. But I think some just make it more complicated than it actually is. Sometimes when you see the sky is blue, that's just it, it's blue, no more, no less.

Psalm 119:130 (Hebrew text) "The words You inscribed give light, and grant understanding to the simple."

If YHVH intended His word to be difficult to understand, then this verse wouldn't exist. If He says the simple can understand, then it is simple. Problem is humans try to make it look like it's special revelation too much. It says what it says, and we need to get out of the way. LOL Shalom
I agree, I think the problem many have is taking scripture literally would not fit their belief system. So instead of making their belief match the word of God. they start to symbolize the word to make the word match their belief. when we do this. we can make scripture say almost anything we want. Which Satan uses to his advantage!
 
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Laodicea

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If you understand the sanctuary and how it works then you can better understand Revelation. In the 7 churches, 7 seals & 7 trumpets all start with scenes in the Holy place and end in the Most Holy place. That is there for a reason
 
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I agree, I think the problem many have is taking scripture literally would not fit their belief system. So instead of making their belief match the word of God. they start to symbolize the word to make the word match their belief. when we do this. we can make scripture say almost anything we want. Which Satan uses to his advantage!
I couldn't agree more, I think you're right on. Amen.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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If you understand the sanctuary and how it works then you can better understand Revelation. In the 7 churches, 7 seals & 7 trumpets all start with scenes in the Holy place and end in the Most Holy place. That is there for a reason
I guess I don't see it. I also don't see how we can make what John sees a symbol, and not take him literally as things he saw. Trying to use the language he understood to explain literal things.