Are there any God ordained feasts I can partake in?

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BenFTW

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This has become a... major topic of discussion amongst close family and friends lately. Forsaking "pagan holidays" and being more in line with God's holy days. I've done some research and know that certain feasts are types, and there are anti-types and once fulfilled they are no longer celebrated (they are omitted). What feasts, if any, still exist and are we free to partake in (though not obligated to)?

My father has been watching Michael Rood from Rood Awakening and because of what he is learning (origins), he is desiring to celebrate God ordained feasts, holidays, and what not. Of course we have our canned response that you cannot dismiss certain holidays based on origin because it is the genetic fallacy, dismissing something based upon origin instead of current use or applicability. However, it is still intriguing if there are certain God ordained feasts or celebrations that we can enjoy.

I don't know... this has been a hot topic in my house (and close friends, family, etc) lately. Can some of you more informed believers enlighten me on this discussion?
 

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This has become a... major topic of discussion amongst close family and friends lately. Forsaking "pagan holidays" and being more in line with God's holy days. I've done some research and know that certain feasts are types, and there are anti-types and once fulfilled they are no longer celebrated (they are omitted). What feasts, if any, still exist and are we free to partake in (though not obligated to)?

My father has been watching Michael Rood from Rood Awakening and because of what he is learning (origins), he is desiring to celebrate God ordained feasts, holidays, and what not. Of course we have our canned response that you cannot dismiss certain holidays based on origin because it is the genetic fallacy, dismissing something based upon origin instead of current use or applicability. However, it is still intriguing if there are certain God ordained feasts or celebrations that we can enjoy.

I don't know... this has been a hot topic in my house (and close friends, family, etc) lately. Can some of you more informed believers enlighten me on this discussion?
Hi Ben, it is refreshing to hear someone from a christian background with all it's PAGAN holidays to actually show an interest in GOD's Holy Days !!!
I don't presume to 'enlighten you with my knowledge and experience because even in the keeping of 'Holy Days' there are different practices by different groups....which sadly don't unite people.
I have observed God's HD (holy days) for close on 40 years but do so differently today as in my first flush of understanding when everything was literal and physical....today it is more spiritual.
 

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This has become a... major topic of discussion amongst close family and friends lately.
Are there any God ordained feasts I can partake in?

You primary and ultimate authority for the answer is the New Testament itself. The only "feast" given to Christians is the Memorial Feast of the Lord's Supper. That's it.

Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. (1 Cor 5:7,8)

Here "unleavened bread" is treated as a metaphor for sincerity and truth, and that the Christian himself is to be "unleavened" (free from sin and corruption, or "the leaven of malice and wickedness"). In the New Testament churches the Lord's Supper was a weekly Memorial Feast.
 
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trofimus

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No, there are no feasts ordained by God for us in our era.

There are two sacraments we should partake in - baptism (once in a life) and the Lord´s Supper (repeatedly).

You can partake in some church festivals like Christmass or "Easter", if you do it in a christian way without world´s influences, IMHO.
 

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This has become a... major topic of discussion amongst close family and friends lately. Forsaking "pagan holidays" and being more in line with God's holy days. I've done some research and know that certain feasts are types, and there are anti-types and once fulfilled they are no longer celebrated (they are omitted). What feasts, if any, still exist and are we free to partake in (though not obligated to)?

My father has been watching Michael Rood from Rood Awakening and because of what he is learning (origins), he is desiring to celebrate God ordained feasts, holidays, and what not. Of course we have our canned response that you cannot dismiss certain holidays based on origin because it is the genetic fallacy, dismissing something based upon origin instead of current use or applicability. However, it is still intriguing if there are certain God ordained feasts or celebrations that we can enjoy.

I don't know... this has been a hot topic in my house (and close friends, family, etc) lately. Can some of you more informed believers enlighten me on this discussion?
If you are a jew, of course. :)
 
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Your father is being swayed by hebrew roots doctrine? Talk about legalistic.
 

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This has become a... major topic of discussion amongst close family and friends lately. Forsaking "pagan holidays" and being more in line with God's holy days. I've done some research and know that certain feasts are types, and there are anti-types and once fulfilled they are no longer celebrated (they are omitted). What feasts, if any, still exist and are we free to partake in (though not obligated to)?

My father has been watching Michael Rood from Rood Awakening and because of what he is learning (origins), he is desiring to celebrate God ordained feasts, holidays, and what not. Of course we have our canned response that you cannot dismiss certain holidays based on origin because it is the genetic fallacy, dismissing something based upon origin instead of current use or applicability. However, it is still intriguing if there are certain God ordained feasts or celebrations that we can enjoy.

I don't know... this has been a hot topic in my house (and close friends, family, etc) lately. Can some of you more informed believers enlighten me on this discussion?
When the Romans killed the Jewish church fathers and put in the gentile church fathers, they brought in what their mothers had taught them---from pagan religions. If you study what these men taught as if it was from God you would not be accepting their ideas as if it was truth. When we replace the blood of Christ with the symbolic blood of Christ that animals were, we are not to replace God's commands because of this.

When Christ (who is God) taught that doing what God gave man to lead him to God was not the end of worship, it must lead to actual worship it is not saying that what God gave man to do was wrong and bad. It is saying the such as dietary laws and circumcision were to lead them to worship, they were not worship.

God told of His plan for our salvation with the feasts. God explained that we were to celebrate this plan forever. Christ did this, and we are to follow Christ. Paul did this and we are to follow Paul.

God did not give us Christmas, it is man made. God did not give us Easter, that word is not in scripture. It is a corruption of Passover. The world took over Christmas. Easter now is hats, clothes, bunnies, eggs. God protected His feasts.

God said to celebrate his plan of salvation through the feast forever, Christ said He speaks for God. Christ said He did not change anything the Father told us.
 

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Your father is being swayed by hebrew roots doctrine? Talk about legalistic.
As good as that made you feel, and as good as an in your face comment that was, do you have any light to shine on this topic?
 
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As good as that made you feel, and as good as an in your face comment that was, do you have any light to shine on this topic?
It wasn't a feelgood moment... it was more like "wut"
 
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BenFTW

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It wasn't a feelgood moment... it was more like "wut"
Yeah... tell me about it. I was cautious when I heard him start talking about getting to the Hebrew roots of the faith, and then he really got into Michael Rood and his ministry Rood Awakening. While it is fascinating information, what Michael Rood teaches, and a lot of it is historically accurate, I feared he'd start getting legalistic. I'd joke with him, "Don't get legalistic on me, now." Fast forward to today, and the discussion involves abandoning long held holidays, no longer eating pork (not religiously, but for health reasons, which is fine), and now, seeing what we, as a family, will celebrate.

My brother said we'd have to give up birthdays too, to my father (jokingly, but also making a point), because they too are sourced in paganism. His birthday is today. He also brought up the origins of wedding rings, and that too was a good point. If we were to give up everything we did that was originally from paganism, a lot of changes would be in order. This is why it isn't a sound argument, known as the genetic fallacy.

I don't know what to tell you. Its led to some interesting, passionate, discussions thats for sure.
 

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I have a question to ask regarding this topic...
Do people think Jesus was a Christian....did HE do all the things we today have accepted as 'christianity ? don't think so...that's why He will say to MANY....'depart from me, I don't know you !

Christians don't know the true Jesus Lord of the Sabbath...they fashioned themselves another jesus called lord of sunday, a usurper and pretender.
 
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I have a question to ask regarding this topic...
Do people think Jesus was a Christian....did HE do all the things we today have accepted as 'christianity ? don't think so...that's why He will say to MANY....'depart from me, I don't know you !

Christians don't know the true Jesus Lord of the Sabbath...they fashioned themselves another jesus called lord of sunday, a usurper and pretender.
Christian as the bride of Christ is the new name the Lord name His bride the church in the book of Acts. Jesus in respect to the new creation is typified as our husband. As a new creation a kingdom of priest, our citizenship is not of here we are not reckoned as male or female, Jew nor Gentile.But as the new heavenly Jerusalem prepared as His bride are called the mother of us all .

The depart from me ,I never knew you had to do with false Christians who were in name only.
 
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I don't think there are any feasts for Christians similar to the ones in the Old Testament.

I'd go with the idea that the kingdom of God isn't about things like eating and drinking.

Also, I really appreciate the calm tone of your OP.
 
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Yeah... tell me about it. I was cautious when I heard him start talking about getting to the Hebrew roots of the faith, and then he really got into Michael Rood and his ministry Rood Awakening. While it is fascinating information, what Michael Rood teaches, and a lot of it is historically accurate, I feared he'd start getting legalistic. I'd joke with him, "Don't get legalistic on me, now." Fast forward to today, and the discussion involves abandoning long held holidays, no longer eating pork (not religiously, but for health reasons, which is fine), and now, seeing what we, as a family, will celebrate.

My brother said we'd have to give up birthdays too, to my father (jokingly, but also making a point), because they too are sourced in paganism. His birthday is today. He also brought up the origins of wedding rings, and that too was a good point. If we were to give up everything we did that was originally from paganism, a lot of changes would be in order. This is why it isn't a sound argument, known as the genetic fallacy.

I don't know what to tell you. Its led to some interesting, passionate, discussions thats for sure.
It's good you're there to provide some balance. Nothing wrong with abandoning the pagan-inspired holidays and observing the festivals, but nothing righteous about doing either.
 
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It's good you're there to provide some balance. Nothing wrong with abandoning the pagan-inspired holidays and observing the festivals, but nothing righteous about doing either.
And to answer your question, the 3 festivals that haven't been fulfilled yet are the day of trumpets (clamor), the day of atonement, and tabernacles. I personally think that the day of atonement is in process whereby the high priest has entered into the holy place twice: once to bring his blood, and the second time to make reconciliation for his people's sins. There he will remain until the fulfillment of the day of atonement when he emerges from the holiest place to send away sins on the scapegoat.
 
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I don't think there are any feasts for Christians similar to the ones in the Old Testament.

I'd go with the idea that the kingdom of God isn't about things like eating and drinking.

Also, I really appreciate the calm tone of your OP.
The breaking of the bread and drinking of the cup of the blood of the grapes anticipate the wedding supper when it will be consummated receiving the goal of our new faith of our new incorruptible bodies. It is considered a ceremonial law that has to do with eating and drinking. We drink shadows of the good thing to come, until he comes

I think it is why Christ as the Son of man said; He will not eat again with us from now on until the kingdom of God comes.

When we eat
ceremonially this shows our desire of the future event

John 6
reflects on it. When Christ said unless you drink my blood you will not participate. To drink blood in a ceremonial setting is to give one's spirit life in jeopardy of one own spirit life. It's with that blood used to represent the pouring out of His Spirit. Literal blood is used to represent the unseen spirit .Literal flesh and blood without the spirit does not profit. It is to be poured out into the ground so it can return to the lifeless, spiritless rudiments it was formed from .
When the hour had come, Jesus reclined at the table with His apostles. And He said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before My suffering. For I tell you that I will not eat it again until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” After taking the cup, He gave thanks and said, “Take this and divide it among yourselves. For I tell you that I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes. And He took the bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body, given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is poured out for you. Luke 22
 
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This has become a... major topic of discussion amongst close family and friends lately. Forsaking "pagan holidays" and being more in line with God's holy days. I've done some research and know that certain feasts are types, and there are anti-types and once fulfilled they are no longer celebrated (they are omitted). What feasts, if any, still exist and are we free to partake in (though not obligated to)?

My father has been watching Michael Rood from Rood Awakening and because of what he is learning (origins), he is desiring to celebrate God ordained feasts, holidays, and what not. Of course we have our canned response that you cannot dismiss certain holidays based on origin because it is the genetic fallacy, dismissing something based upon origin instead of current use or applicability. However, it is still intriguing if there are certain God ordained feasts or celebrations that we can enjoy.

I don't know... this has been a hot topic in my house (and close friends, family, etc) lately. Can some of you more informed believers enlighten me on this discussion?
Pentecost and the feast of weeks occured at the same time in the Bible.

Jesus was crucified during Passover and commerates being our Manna with communion which can be taken daily, weekly, monthly or yearly. We have that freedom in Christ.

Ascension day is ten days before Pentecost.

You can keep all the feast in a way...no animal sacrifices.,,also it doesn't determine salvation or lack of it.

Christmas is suppose to celebrate the birth of Christ and the coming of the wise men...many people don't realize that Jesus was probably two years old when they visited but it makes for a better story to have the baby in the manger and just three wise men.

Easter is suppose to celebrate that the grave could not hold Jesus: his resurrection.

Those are the festivals off the topic of my head.

The festival of Esther celebration seem more man made than God ordained.

Most of the feasts center around the harvest and Jesus showed how His harvest is not of food but men.
 

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As good as that made you feel, and as good as an in your face comment that was, do you have any light to shine on this topic?
Religious traditions or man and not from God are a hard thing to overcome, and have been around since the Golden calf and their man made "Feasts unto the Lord".

So it is a difficult topic to discuss. People who adhere to man made traditions will be against or ignorant of God's Holy Days.

I can only give you my perspective, which is a perspective that has chosen, as close as I can, the Ways of God and not the religious ways of man. No SDA, AOG, Methodist, Baptist, No Pope, No Hebrew Roots, not a Jew, I just believe in the Bible, All of it.

Yesterday was "Feast of Weeks, or Pentecost. When to first Church of Christ gathered on this Holy Day they were blessed. But Pentecost without Feast of Unleavened Bread means nothing, and Feast of Unleavened bread without Passover means nothing.

I believe that those who truly seeking God, with all their heart, will find Him. It would be wrong for me to tell you what to do, but not wrong showing you His Word and letting Him Direct you.

In Leviticus 23 God lays out the highlights of His Salvation Plan, if you can except it.

1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

It is important to note that this "Lord" is the Word which became Flesh in the person of Jesus. This Lord created "ALL THINGS" according to the New Testament, including the following Holy Days.

2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

So Jesus, as the Word, made a point to tell His People that the Following Holy Days are HIS Feasts, not man's, not the Jews, Not from Moses, or any other entity. These Feasts belong to the "Word which became Flesh".

3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

It is also a Biblical Fact that the First Holy Day the Word which became Flesh created was His Sabbath. This kind of sheds some light on the Word's of the Christ "for the Son of Man is Lord, even of the Sabbath Day".

This is a hard pill to swallow for "Many", who come in Christ's name, and say Lord, Lord, but do not what He says. It also exposes the phrase "Jewish tradition" as not true when applied to God's Sabbath and Holy Days.

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These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
So after the weekly Sabbath the Holydays begin with Passover. I have always found it fascinating that most mainstream religions consider Passover as the "END" of God's Salvation plan. "it is finished" they cry. But the Word which became Flesh created just the opposite. According to HIS Salvation plan, Passover is the Beginning of salvation.

Then comes Feast of Unleavened bread, which represents our new life which is to be free from Leaven (Representing sin). It is a 7 day feast which represents our whole life "after Passover". It has a Sabbath on the First day and a Sabbath on the Last day. This is why there were two Sabbaths the week of Christ's death.

After that comes Pentecost. You can't properly observe Pentecost, or "Feast of Weeks" or "Feast of First fruits" as it is also called, unless one counts correctly from Unleavened bread. These feasts were aligned with "harvest" practices to foreshadow "things to come".

Jesus was the very first "first fruit", the very first person to actually be "born of God" in His Resurrection. This was symbolized in the OT by the "first sheaf" (a handful of stalks and cereal grass, "an omers worth") to be waved before the Eternal God by the Priest on the morning after His Resurrection. This "lifting up" and "waving" then coming back down shows how Jesus was "lifted" before coming back down.

Fascinating stuff and a great study and will change your understanding of the scriptures forever should you decide to trust God enough follow them.

Feast of Trumpets, which represent the 2nd coming of Christ to take over the Earth and rule the nations.

Day of Atonement, symbolizes the putting away of satan, and the placing of the worlds sin on it's head where it belongs.

Feast of Tabernacles (Booths) symbolizes the 1000 year reign under the Rule of the Christ and the "born children of God". This also is 7 day Feast.

Last Great Day, symbolizes the final judgment, "White throne Judgment" where all who died without the knowledge of Christ, (Those who died in ignorance) will get their fair trial to Salvation.

So as to my advice.

It is my belief that "MAN" and their practice of ignoring God's Word, but still wanting His gift, so creating another path to get it, has always been the problem.

We have the Pope, whose religion changes with the wind and the amount of money people are willing to give to them, we have the thousands of religious movements, Catholics, Baptists, AOG, Hebrew Roots, SDA, Methodists, JW, the list goes on and on and on.

Each one claiming their way is the right way. The only thing they all seem to have in common is they all "Transgress the commandments of God by their own religious Traditions.

So for my family and I, we stopped listening to them all and simply did as Jesus instructed.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

It has been my experience that when we study His Word, truly seeking to know Him, and follow the instructions of the things we can understand, He will lead us into His Truth.

This is the New Covenant, we no longer need fleshy priests or preachers to filter His Word, we all have direct access to it.


And remember, if Jesus came to us today as a brick mason, or carpenter, went in to any one of the Churches of this land, and said, only those things He said before, most churches would label Him as a Legalist and drive Him out of their presence.

I hope you find what you are looking for.
 

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I have a question to ask regarding this topic...
Do people think Jesus was a Christian....did HE do all the things we today have accepted as 'christianity ? don't think so...that's why He will say to MANY....'depart from me, I don't know you !

Christians don't know the true Jesus Lord of the Sabbath...they fashioned themselves another jesus called lord of sunday, a usurper and pretender.
Well, Jesus Christ was a Jew and not a christian. The followers of Christ where called christians. We as christians celebrate sunday as restday, because Jesus rose up on a n sunday and the First christians gathered together in an sunday for Service.
If we would be Jews we had to participate the feasts which God gave Mose in Exedus and Leviticus together with the Sacrifices.
So I See the sunday and the Lords Supper as Feast which God gave to us who follow Jesus. Everything else are man Made traditions.