Are there, really, bad versions (translations) of God's Word ?

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GreenNnice

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Why is your version you like best right (maybe your fave is NASB) while others' favorite version is
wrong ?

How do you think God feels when you say that one version of the bible is better than another?

Is it worth it to condemn a version of the bible ?

Don't all translations of the bible have parts of it that one would disagree with? Do you then make your belief go along with more than one bible translation with what is said to best fit what you want to believe?

Would you call 'that' human nature ?

And, in essence, isn't all scripture from believers translated from one version to another version inspired by God through their authorship?
 
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Trax

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GreenNnice said:
Why is your version you like best right (maybe your fave is NASB) while others' favorite version is
wrong ?

How do you think God feels when you say that one version of the bible is better than another?

Is it worth it to condemn a version of the bible ?

Don't all translations of the bible have parts of it that one would disagree with? Do you then make your belief go along with more than one bible translation with what is said to best fit what you want to believe?

Would you call 'that' human nature ?

And, in essence, isn't all scripture from believers translated from one version to another version inspired by God through their authorship?
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"The Message" has to be the worst I've seen, yet many quote from it. It down plays
demonic activity to be just people with bad outlook on life.

What kind of message is  The Message
 
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GreenNnice

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Trax said:
"The Message" has to be the worst I've seen, yet many quote from it. It down plays
demonic activity to be just people with bad outlook on life.

What kind of message is* The Message
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Interesting, traxxer, I am not real familiar with Eugene Peterson's simplistic (paraphrase) bible translation, The Message, but I have found The Message good understanding of parts of the bible and , me speaking, The Messsge is more reference, I try to stay closest to NASB and KJV, but, understand that God will give you wisdom to choose translation best for you :)

I do want to warn those that speak in this thread, and, as I say in all my threads (and you should pray it Truth too), be VERY careful (fateful?) thinking of what your mouth utters because there are many, many people that read these threads and scripture should NOT be fact based but Truth based, as in what God inspires you to say , like those blessed so much as to be authors of His books in the bible.

The biggest reason to be careful of what ya say is....God hears you too. :)

I think The Message is good, traxxer, for the unbeliever, or, baby believer (christian) to understand some Truths , and, umm, hmm, let me change that last posit (thought) some....

I believe The Message can help those who are either not yet believing or just not able to understand one of the many versions of the bible, The Message can be EXACTLY what God wants someone to believe. It's Greek to them even though its not in Greek :D

I would alzó heed what traxxer says: Heed potential mistranslation of Peterson's 'outlook' approach to demonic activity. The bible should NEVER be used, that is, reading different translations, to qualify something right.

There ARÉ now at least 25 different translations of the bible. So, heed, keep God first, let Him lead :)


I am being bit funny but serious too. So those that are not understanding a particular VERSE in the NASB or NIV or KJV, or, I recommend you getting a bible with 2-3 versions side by side as you read, a 'parallel' bible I think its called, maybe The Message can help you, as you PRAY to Him for understanding manifestation gift from the Holy Spirit (see importance of 'baptism in mark 16, but REMEMBER, everything we proclaim and do is in His timing, the Lord individually leads all our lives with no guilt, that is the Enemy, read about 'biblical conviction' )

Ultimately, we ALL must be grounded in Truth, which God freely gives us the ability ti do when we are in personal relationship with Him . :)
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I trust God to have a certain ammount of control over His word.

However we must be on our guards, as there will be many false prophets.

Then again, I doubt God cares whether I read the KJV or the NIV
 
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Trax

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I think The Message is good, traxxer, for the unbeliever, or, baby believer (christian) to understand some Truths , and, umm, hmm, let me change that last posit (thought) some....

I believe The Message can help those who are either not yet believing or just not able to understand one of the many versions of the bible, The Message can be EXACTLY what God wants someone to believe. It's Greek to them even though its not in Greek :D
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I think The Message is worse than not hearing about Jesus. at all. False doctrine is worse than
not hearing. A person suckered into it, thinks they are in the truth and doesn't seek
the truth anymore, because they think they have it. The person who hasn't heard of Jesus
will still be looking for the truth. I will not even have such a book in my house.
 
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GreenNnice said:
Why is your version you like best right (maybe your fave is NASB) while others' favorite version is
wrong ?

How do you think God feels when you say that one version of the bible is better than another?

Is it worth it to condemn a version of the bible ?

Don't all translations of the bible have parts of it that one would disagree with? Do you then make your belief go along with more than one bible translation with what is said to best fit what you want to believe?

Would you call 'that' human nature ?

And, in essence, isn't all scripture from believers translated from one version to another version inspired by God through their authorship?
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I am not aware that there is a TERRIBLE version, though maybe some are better than others.
 
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GreenNnice

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wwjd_kilden said:
I trust God to have a certain ammount of control over His word.

However we must be on our guards, as there will be many false prophets.

Then again, I doubt God cares whether I read the KJV or the NIV
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God had complete control over His word, kild, that is, how He wanted it written, but it was still written by men and men were God- inspired to write it but human nature and free choice still entereth in and that is wherein lies, perhaps, something false within His Truth .

Bottom line:
The Lord leads, and, when it came to HIS WORD, it is for all and misinterpretation is something that I believe He would have the author (of a given book of the bible) fix.

The bible I'm sure had a lot of things said in rough draft form that required red (corrective) marks for these bible-book authors to see, and, God was the one who made them all see the many errors of their way . :D and, for 100% certainty had those authors ALL do rewrites until they got it said right how God wanted it.

Being green and funny. But all serious, too, miladies, and, my du--, you're just not going to be 'my dudes,', not happening. :D. But..

You are like miladies, my bros in Christ. :)
 
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GreenNnice said:
Why is your version you like best right (maybe your fave is NASB) while others' favorite version is
wrong ?

How do you think God feels when you say that one version of the bible is better than another?

Is it worth it to condemn a version of the bible ?

Don't all translations of the bible have parts of it that one would disagree with? Do you then make your belief go along with more than one bible translation with what is said to best fit what you want to believe?

Would you call 'that' human nature ?

And, in essence, isn't all scripture from believers translated from one version to another version inspired by God through their authorship?
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In the King James veersion, which I study from, particularly concerning Gal 2:16, other versions have changed the wording of "faith of Christ" to "faith in Christ" which changes faith to be man's faith instead of Christ's faith. Our faith does not justify us, but Christ's faith does.
 
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Forest said:
In the King James veersion, which I study from, particularly concerning Gal 2:16, other versions have changed the wording of "faith of Christ" to "faith in Christ" which changes faith to be man's faith instead of Christ's faith. Our faith does not justify us, but Christ's faith does.
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Yes, it does, when we choose to believe.

How are you, Forest? It's been awhile.
 
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selenah

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"Are there, really, bad versions (translations) of God's Word ?"

Have you been to a book store lately? They even have "Cake Bibles"....a terrible translation travesty.
 
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I think what is important for now is seeking God's wisdom and understanding. Many people have tried to translate the bible in many ways, especially easy ones, but because God puts so much in His word, many have only put what they understand from direct translation of the word, and some have made translations of the translations and many have even left out certain portions. So there are terrible versions, what you must do is just test the translation and God will show you the way. God bless
 
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If the first sentence of a math book read '1+1=3', would you say the book is completely reliable, or would have full confidence in it if it 'spoke' of things you don't fully understand? Well, since the greatest majority of bibles (at least as far as i have reasearched) disagree with the KJV on how the very first line is translated, and, whereas both can be wrong, both cannot be right, is inot true that at there are translations such as are like the aforementioned math book? Let each decide for themselves, but let us not get disagreable about it. (yeah, right). God will sort it all out in the End (judgment), so be confident, if it is the case you truly believe you 'have it right'; and have compassion on others, as unto the deceived.

Remember the lessons from the Tower of Babel, because the serpents have, by multiple tranlations of the bible.
 
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i like many translations and do not like to condemn bibles but i hate the parraphrased bibles. it is wicked to parraphrase the bible. those kind of bibles are not the bible.
 
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jonathanbchristian said:
i like many translations and do not like to condemn bibles but i hate the parraphrased bibles. it is wicked to parraphrase the bible. those kind of bibles are not the bible.
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Jonathan, as long as the meaning is kept, why is it "wicked" to paraphrase the bible?
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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the only bible translation that i think is really awful is 'the message'...it is full of occultic and pagan and new age references...
 
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