ARE WE BEING STEWARDS OF THE MYSTERIES OF GOD ?
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No.
Instead, I'm simply trying to explain to you that FORESIGHT was given repeatedly by both the writers of the Old Testament scriptures and Jesus himself.
It's true that the disciples understanding came later, but that's their own faults and not God's.
Again, these things weren't "mysteries" in the sense that nobody knew about them beforehand.
Instead, I'm simply trying to explain to you that FORESIGHT was given repeatedly by both the writers of the Old Testament scriptures and Jesus himself.
It's true that the disciples understanding came later, but that's their own faults and not God's.
Again, these things weren't "mysteries" in the sense that nobody knew about them beforehand.
L
Oh, the irony.
It is you who is "slow"...just like those men whom Jesus rebuked FOR NOT BELIEVING WHAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN FORETOLD BY MOSES, THE PROPHETS, AND IN ALL THE SCRIPTURES CONCERNING HIS SUFFERINGS AND GLORIFICATION.
Here it is, again:
Luke chapter 24
[25] Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
[26] Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
[27] And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
In your twisted theology, Jesus rebuked these men for things which they couldn't possibly have known because they were "mysteries" in the sense that they were hidden from them.
You really do need to repent.
It is you who is "slow"...just like those men whom Jesus rebuked FOR NOT BELIEVING WHAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN FORETOLD BY MOSES, THE PROPHETS, AND IN ALL THE SCRIPTURES CONCERNING HIS SUFFERINGS AND GLORIFICATION.
Here it is, again:
Luke chapter 24
[25] Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
[26] Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
[27] And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
In your twisted theology, Jesus rebuked these men for things which they couldn't possibly have known because they were "mysteries" in the sense that they were hidden from them.
You really do need to repent.
No man in the OT Had Jesus Christ dwelling inside of him .. They had “the Spirit of Christ” (1 Pet. 1:11), but this Spirit gave them no knowledge of a risen Saviour indwelling them permanently (see John 14:16), for no Saviour had yet appeared, no one had died, no one had risen, and no Holy Spirit had been sent for permanent indwelling (see Eph. 4:30
Jesus did not say anything here about ' Christ in you ' This is not the breakdown Jesus is unfolding to the disciples here. I'm not the one that thinks he would know more than the Diciples did . You know those diciples that actually were taught directly by Jesus . Ate with him ,literally walked with him .
L
Yes, and...?
Compare that with something like this that was written to New Testament believers:
Romans chapter 8
[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
[10] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
[11] But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Psssst.
They're all talking about the same thing.
Compare that with something like this that was written to New Testament believers:
Romans chapter 8
[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
[10] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
[11] But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Psssst.
They're all talking about the same thing.
Spirit' OF ' !! where as what was HID ( which ironically ,this verse seems to be HID from you ,or you keep glossing over it ) was this .
24¶Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
25Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
26Even the MYSTERY which hath been HID !!!!!!!! from AGES and from generations, BUT NOW !!!!!!! is made manifest to his saints:
27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is CHRIST IN !!!!! YOU , the hope of glory:
24¶Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
25Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
26Even the MYSTERY which hath been HID !!!!!!!! from AGES and from generations, BUT NOW !!!!!!! is made manifest to his saints:
27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is CHRIST IN !!!!! YOU , the hope of glory:
By the evidence of the empty tomb the penny should have dropped .
Its the women who realise first.
6He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
7Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
8¶And they remembered his words,
9And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
10It was Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.
11And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
12Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering in himself at that which was come to pass.
Notice verse 8 .
Its the women who realise first.
6He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
7Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
8¶And they remembered his words,
9And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
10It was Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.
11And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
12Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering in himself at that which was come to pass.
Notice verse 8 .
L
You're asking me to notice verse 8?
Whose point are you trying to prove?
Mine or yours?
You're only proving my point which is that Jesus had previously told them of these things, as had the writers of the Old Testament, so, again, they weren't "mysteries" in the sense that you are claiming.
Anyhow, I only got a few hours of sleep last night, so I need to rest for a bit.
I'll look at your other responses later.
Whose point are you trying to prove?
Mine or yours?
You're only proving my point which is that Jesus had previously told them of these things, as had the writers of the Old Testament, so, again, they weren't "mysteries" in the sense that you are claiming.
Anyhow, I only got a few hours of sleep last night, so I need to rest for a bit.
I'll look at your other responses later.
