Are we serving God or money?

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What is wrong with everything being free to all? I say we will end all sin and conquer death by getting rid of something we don't need and no one is interested?
 
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jedidiah_asher

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Re: Gotta Serve Somebody

Look people, when it comes to money, thats where many jump ship. I mean its your money and you worked hard for it. Giving your money is the closest thing to human sacrifice and why God looks at it with the deepest sincerity. I mean thats forty hours of you life if not more. Now, when you give it is just as important as how you give it.

A sower went about to so and some seed fell here and some there, but only the seed that fell on good ground produced 30, 60, and 100 fold. If you give your money to a prosperity (word of faith) preacher. He just stole your money. If, you give to a preacher that preaches the cross and show the fruit of salvation. Then you have sown into good ground. But did you give with a malice heart or did you give it cheerfully.

Understand that satan is after the tithes and offerings, because he know that the church cannot operate with out money. Think about it, did you like the fact that lights were on, and the sound system worked, or in winter, did you like the fact that it was warm in the church. Do you like the fact that your church can provide food for the hungry. It is all made possible by your tithes and offerings.

So you don't want to do that, thats okay, because if you don't. God will go get a drunk out from under the bridge and bless him financially and put in his heart to give, so that His gospel will be preached.

If had the finance and didn't give a portion to the preaching of the gospel, I would fear standing before Him.
I totally agree with you.
 
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reject-tech

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[h=2]Are we serving God or money?[/h]
"Dear God, thank you for family, love, freedom, and turkey"

Exactly 12 hours later -

"$tampede!"

$9.99 reads somewhat differently lying on the floor. :p
 
Sep 14, 2013
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What is wrong with everything being free to all? I say we will end all sin and conquer death by getting rid of something we don't need and no one is interested?
Because then nobody would work. I work to feed my family, if I could do that for free there would be no need for me to work. If I don't do my job then those who rely on my profession would suffer. Who would be policemen, firemen, doctors? Who would manufacture things? Deliver these goods? The idea certainly is beautiful... But we'd be much worse off if everything was free.
 
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Not true at all sir, God is more than capable of providing all that. I even know of a guy who has lived without money for over 5 years.....None at all.....if someone gives him cash, he just gives it away to the next person he sees....hasn't spent so much as a dime on anything. He just trusts God and travels around. It's worth noting he's not your typical Christian, he acknowledges Christ and believes in God deeply.......but he also has some eastern mysticism woven into his belief system. He's never went hungry or went without clothing, or ever been subjected to the elements more so than an average person that has their own house.

God takes care of his people. Always has. If however, you choose to serve money rather than God.....that's your decision.....you have every right to choose that path if it's what you want.
So how has he survived? How does he eat? Cloth himself etc?
 
Jul 26, 2013
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So how has he survived? How does he eat? Cloth himself etc?
You do understand that these things can be done without money? What of those 30000 children who can never get a job to earn money? Is God starving them or are we?

There isn't one reason that any of you provided as to why we need money.

All I see is FEAR of what might happen if you don't have any!

A piece of PAPER!

HOW LONG oh Israel must you continue to serve your own imaginations!?
 
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As I said earlier. Who will manufacture products? Who will deliver these items? Who will serve the products? Where is the incentive to work if there's no money? Why open a store if no one is paying anything?

Without money we would end up like Something out of the Mad Max movies lol
 
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As I said earlier. Who will manufacture products? Who will deliver these items? Who will serve the products? Where is the incentive to work if there's no money? Why open a store if no one is paying anything?

Without money we would end up like Something out of the Mad Max movies lol
At least 76% of americans live day to day (paycheck to paycheck) like slaves enjoying whatever they may afford, visiting what little part of the world if any at all, FOR WHAT? TO DIE IN THE END?


Money will fall, but you still are going to be hungry, abs I would rather work to feed ALL than to for a meaningless piece of paper.

Most manufacturing today are done by machines. 98% of jobs become meaningless.
There are 7 billion people living in this planet. If only 1 in a thousand thought like me, that'll be 7 MILLION people willing to work only that all may enjoy all things freely!

There are presently more than that number in the world willing to be included among the 76% of americans struggling ALONE.

What I say is inescapable, look around you please.

Today our phones alone is not only just that, but a computer, a multimedia player, a camera and recorder, a video game and much more!

We have enough of EVERYTHING! From people to resources, but we would rather kill people off in order to profit off of these resources (the creature) being evidenced by all that no man can claim the earth by means of death!

I'm sorry friend but God don't pay no bills, neither do those of His family.
 
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gocardinals25

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When we think of working we think 12 hour shift to pay the bills. Working with our hands in the fields,hunting,farming, wouldn't that be so much more free of burden, having our families together and really knowing the true meaning of love of life and not money? We are worth much more than paper that we give value to, the love of money is such a strong obstacle to overcome because it is the most blinding but all things come from the earth, did God not give us all of the earth? Are we using our money to serve Gods will or our own? Do we serve God or paper? Though one would appear rich,he is poor
 
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Basically, everyone is serving mammon, and even the preachers are serving it also. Some of them preach the word of God and expect to receive their reward now, and God does pays them what they are worth. But the preachers has given up their birthright to the throne, over a bowl of lentils.
 
Sep 1, 2013
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When people say that money is a “meaningless piece of paper” and “we will end all sin and conquer death by getting rid of [money]” they are demonstrating that they are part of the problem. Money should not be an object of hate anymore than a hammer, a saw, a shovel or any other tool. Money is simply a tool to facilitate exchange… It’s like getting hit over the head with a hammer and blaming the hammer instead of the one who’s wielding it. Money is the single most amazing and powerful tool known to mankind and like any other tool it can be used to do good or it can be used to do evil. People who hate money or say that we’d be better off without it are people who are ignorant as to what money is. Sadly over 99% of the population is ignorant about money and this is by design.

The most important thing to know about money is how our evil satanic authorities, the money powers (the same authorities that control the Christian religious system), use money as their prime tool to enslave nations and put them into perpetual servitude. That’s not the fault of the money but that’s the fault of people’s ignorance about money and the evil authorities that spend billions to keep people in that ignorance.

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” Henry Ford

If money, that amazing tool, were in the hands of God fearing authorities the opposite effects to what we have today would ensue: there would be no poverty, unemployment, inflation and debt… there would be prosperity for all. But this ignorance is going to continue and the satanic authorities are using all their money power to finance instruments of disinformation to make sure the slaves remain ignorant about the realities of their own captivity.
 
Jul 26, 2013
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When people say that money is a “meaningless piece of paper” and “we will end all sin and conquer death by getting rid of [money]” they are demonstrating that they are part of the problem. Money should not be an object of hate anymore than a hammer, a saw, a shovel or any other tool. Money is simply a tool to facilitate exchange… It’s like getting hit over the head with a hammer and blaming the hammer instead of the one who’s wielding it. Money is the single most amazing and powerful tool known to mankind and like any other tool it can be used to do good or it can be used to do evil. People who hate money or say that we’d be better off without it are people who are ignorant as to what money is. Sadly over 99% of the population is ignorant about money and this is by design.

The most important thing to know about money is how our evil satanic authorities, the money powers (the same authorities that control the Christian religious system), use money as their prime tool to enslave nations and put them into perpetual servitude. That’s not the fault of the money but that’s the fault of people’s ignorance about money and the evil authorities that spend billions to keep people in that ignorance.

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” Henry Ford

If money, that amazing tool, were in the hands of God fearing authorities the opposite effects to what we have today would ensue: there would be no poverty, unemployment, inflation and debt… there would be prosperity for all. But this ignorance is going to continue and the satanic authorities are using all their money power to finance instruments of disinformation to make sure the slaves remain ignorant about the realities of their own captivity.
You sound like you love your servitude. What should I work for if not to end sin and death?

And those same people you believe would make a difference if they were in charge of money would do the same things that those who are in charge are doing now!

This is because we battle not flesh and blood but spiritual wickedness within us all like money.
 
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And those same people you believe would make a difference if they were in charge of money would do the same things that those who are in charge are doing now! This is because we battle not flesh and blood but spiritual wickedness within us all like money.
Those people I believe would make a difference are people born of God who have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. People born of God do not have within them what you say you have within yourself: “spiritual wickedness”.

How can you say “us” when you talk about your own spiritual wickedness that is within you? Speak for yourself. Don’t assume all believers have spiritual wickedness within them just because you do.

You sound like you love your servitude. What should I work for if not to end sin and death?
So you are saying it sounds like I love serving money because I believe that the "love of money is a root to all evil" and not that the money itself is evil? You equate money with sin and death. You believe that a tool that’s used to facilitate exchange (so the baker doesn’t have to bring thousands of loaves of bread to the car dealer in exchange for his car while the car dealer then has to get rid of the bread before it spoils) is identical to the spiritual wickedness that you have within yourself. This shows you are the one in servitude to your own ignorance.
 
Jul 26, 2013
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Those people I believe would make a difference are people born of God who have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. People born of God do not have within them what you say you have within yourself: “spiritual wickedness”.

How can you say “us” when you talk about your own spiritual wickedness that is within you? Speak for yourself. Don’t assume all believers have spiritual wickedness within them just because you do.



So you are saying it sounds like I love serving money because I believe that the "love of money is a root to all evil" and not that the money itself is evil? You equate money with sin and death. You believe that a tool that’s used to facilitate exchange (so the baker doesn’t have to bring thousands of loaves of bread to the car dealer in exchange for his car while the car dealer then has to get rid of the bread before it spoils) is identical to the spiritual wickedness that you have within yourself. This shows you are the one in servitude to your own ignorance.
What IS spiritual wickedness? What do you battle?

I gave you an example in money. And you are speaking of an old system. Both cars and bread are made by machines in factories.

No matter how you slice it, we have enough. But because of the love of money, you would shun even freely receiving these things, just because maybe someone else is who didn't work at all will get the same.
 
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But because of the love of money, you would shun even freely receiving these things, just because maybe someone else is who didn't work at all will get the same.
You’re not coherent. You’re either acting or not acting. I can only assume the best.
 
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gocardinals25

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If you say I am in need of nothing I have acquired wealth then why would you ever need God? If a rich man donates to every charity in the world and is still rich what good will that do when it is written that the poor shall inherit the earth? That it is harder for a camel to go through the eye of a needle? Do we look to God for our needs or money you cannot serve God and money you will love one and hate the other, which one do you love and which one do you hate?
 

Elizabeth619

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Since when is it a sin to be rich? Jesus never said that. Why do people think this?
 
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  • Ecclesiastes 7:12For wisdom is a defence, and money is a defence: but the excellency of knowledge is, that wisdom giveth life to them that have it.

  • Ecclesiastes 10:19A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things
 
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If you say I am in need of nothing I have acquired wealth then why would you ever need God? If a rich man donates to every charity in the world and is still rich what good will that do when it is written that the poor shall inherit the earth? That it is harder for a camel to go through the eye of a needle? Do we look to God for our needs or money you cannot serve God and money you will love one and hate the other, which one do you love and which one do you hate?
Proverbs 13:7There is that maketh himself rich, yet hath nothing: there is that maketh himself poor, yet hath great riches.
 
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gocardinals25

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Jesus Christ came to free the captives,to recover sight to the blind,to deliver good news to the poor. Think real hard about that for a minute.