Are You a "Vomit" Christian?

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Blain

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I nominate this for the understatement of the year award :)
Bows gracefully thank you thank you I am so honored to receive this massive achievement and reward all of your many many bright faces that cheer for me.... sniff... you humble me I am humbled
 
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Actually I am honestly a bit confused I would feel horrible if you were speaking about someone else and I thought you were talking about me my mind is bit slow today you know lack of coffee and such lol
It is on the way to you in a PM.
 
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Revelation 3:15-19 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]'I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. [SUP]16 [/SUP]'So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth.
Greek Strong's Number: 1692
Greek Word: ἐμέω
Transliteration: emeō
Phonetic Pronunciation:
em-eh'-o

Root: of uncertain affinity
Cross Reference:
Part of Speech: v
Vine's Words: Spew
Usage Notes:

English Words used in KJV:
spue 1
[Total Count: 1]

of uncertain affinity; to vomit :- (will) spue.

The reason we vomit is because something makes us sick. The reason God vomits is because somebody sickens Him, or puts a bad taste in His mouth. To be spued out from God is to be no longer in Him.

Do you puke in a bowl so that you can scoop it back up & eat it? No, you get rid of it, you can't stand to look at or smell it.


They tasted nasty because of their deeds (v15). Those "deeds" had something to do with V17.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]'Because you say, "I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing," and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked, [SUP]18 [/SUP]I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see. [SUP]19 [/SUP]'Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.

This church's spiritual blindness fooled them to believe they were doing great. After all, they prospered materially, it must be proof of their salvation. That's definitely the modern church as a whole.

It seems ironic that one's obedience to some has nothing to do with salvation, while one's sickening "deeds" can cause God to vomit a believer permanently away from Him.
:)
 
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We are joined as one with Christ - sealed with the Holy Spirit.

Jesus no more spits out body parts out of Him then Daffy Duck and Donald Duck are the 2 witnesses in the book of Revelation.

We need to read obscure scripture with all the abundance of clear scripture that reveal the security of the believer who is sealed in Christ. All scripture has to be filtered through the finished work of Christ or that obscure scripture will con you.

Here is a grace-based teaching on being lukewarm if anyone is interested.

https://escapetoreality.org/2015/07/24/are-you-lukewarm/
 
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Revelation 3:15-19 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]'I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. [SUP]16 [/SUP]'So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth.
Greek Strong's Number: 1692
Greek Word: ἐμέω
Transliteration: emeō
Phonetic Pronunciation:
em-eh'-o

Root: of uncertain affinity
Cross Reference:
Part of Speech: v
Vine's Words: Spew
Usage Notes:

English Words used in KJV:
spue 1
[Total Count: 1]

of uncertain affinity; to vomit :- (will) spue.

The reason we vomit is because something makes us sick. The reason God vomits is because somebody sickens Him, or puts a bad taste in His mouth. To be spued out from God is to be no longer in Him.

Do you puke in a bowl so that you can scoop it back up & eat it? No, you get rid of it, you can't stand to look at or smell it.


They tasted nasty because of their deeds (v15). Those "deeds" had something to do with V17.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]'Because you say, "I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing," and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked, [SUP]18 [/SUP]I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see. [SUP]19 [/SUP]'Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.

This church's spiritual blindness fooled them to believe they were doing great. After all, they prospered materially, it must be proof of their salvation. That's definitely the modern church as a whole.

It seems ironic that one's obedience to some has nothing to do with salvation, while one's sickening "deeds" can cause God to vomit a believer permanently away from Him.
:)

This church's spiritual blindness fooled them to believe they were doing great. After all, they prospered materially, it must be proof of their salvation. That's definitely the modern church as a whole.

It seems ironic that one's obedience to some has nothing to do with salvation, while one's sickening "deeds" can cause God to vomit a believer permanently away from Him.
:)
The spirit of deception!
 
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[SUP]19 [/SUP]'Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.
But yet we see over and over and over and over(xinfinity) that we dont need to repent on this site! alrighty then... :eek:
 
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RobbyEarl

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The modern mainstream church is spiritually blind. They think we have to be like the world to win the world. Have you seen youth conferences? Might as well be at the club
 
Nov 22, 2015
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Believers in Christ should be repenting every time they see a new truth about our Lord Jesus that is revealed to us by the Holy Spirit. Repentance is a great blessing from our God! Repentance is changing your mind - your way of thinking .
 
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How a person would have used the word "repent" which is metanoia in the Greek is like this in the sentence below.

I was going to go to the market but I metanoia (repented - changed their mind) and went home instead.


There are "fruits of repentance" but they are a by-product or fruit of having already repented to believe in Christ. Fruits of repentance are not the root of repentance.


This video here may help in the understanding of the word "repentance " as it was used in the Greek world when the New Testament scriptures was written.

Sometimes the meaning of some words have been "hijacked" by our religious upbringing and traditions and when we hear them used differently - it can be dis-concerning to our minds.

[video=vimeo;112172173]https://vimeo.com/112172173[/video]
 
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Believers in Christ should be repenting every time they see a new truth about our Lord Jesus that is revealed to us by the Holy Spirit. Repentance is a great blessing from our God! Repentance is changing your mind - your way of thinking .
You only regurgitated what I said many posts ago. But I guess it sounds better coming from you?
 

AllenW

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Jerry,
A whole gang of us are meeting at Ft. Desoto Sunday (Pavilion #8) A friend of mine rented it, and he has half the county coming, I believe.... all different churches, and some not churched... and hardly anyone will know anyone else unless they happen to be family.

You are very welcome to join us.

You, too, Allen & Anita... if you don't mind the long drive for just a few hours.
Sounds great Willie, but we have family here from South Carolina.
And our drab life comes with 2 other invitations this weekend.
And then the rest of the year, nothing.
 
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Sounds great Willie, but we have family here from South Carolina.
And our drab life comes with 2 other invitations this weekend.
And then the rest of the year, nothing.
Well, we'll come up with something else real soon.
 
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Let's see..... can't be "unsaved", but there's a falling away from the faith happening right now..... in order to fall away, one falls away from the faith once adhered to. It's an apostasy, departing from the faith never to return. You can't fall away from something you never had, neither is this scripture symbolic. It is what it is.
And that is something I do not understand about,once saved,always saved,and you cannot lose salvation,and God chooses who will be saved in the beginning,which would mean that everything they do in accordance with the kingdom of God,all comes from God,with no choice on their part.

Everything action they do,everything they say,would all come from God,with nothing coming from them,for they take away the choice,and the responsibility of the believer.

That means when they come to God,and accept Jesus,it is from God,and not them,and when they repent,it is from God,and not them,and when they are led of the Spirit,it is of God,and not them,and when they have faith,it is of God,and not them.

Everything is from God,and not them,for God chose them in the beginning,with no say so on their part.

But God commands all people to repent,but if it is from God,and not them,they will do it automatically,and do not need to be commanded,for God chose them in the beginning,and if they say that repentance is on their part,then they testify that there is a choice on their end,and why would God command all people to repent,if He chose the ones in the beginning,and the rest cannot be saved.

God says we have to have faith,but if it is from God,and not from them,why would God say for them to have faith,when they would do it automatically,and if they say faith is on their part,then they testify that they have a choice in the matter.

God tells us to do,and believe certain things,but if it is all on God's part,and not them,then why would God say those things,if they would do it automatically anyway,and if they say there is anything on their part,then they testify that they have a choice on their part.

The fact that we have the capacity to sin,if we desire,after we are saved,testifies that we have a choice in the matter,for it not a choice on our part,after we are saved,we would not have the capacity to sin,if we desire.

That means when they say they love God,it did not come from them,for God chose them to love Him,which would mean God's kingdom is not true love,but robotic love.

If they say they have faith,they really do not,but they have no choice but to say it.

God's word,and the prophesy,is to prove that out of all the false religions,and the false gods,that the God of Israel is the true God,but what is there to prove,and what is there to say,if the people that God chose are automatically going to follow Him,and the ones God did not choose,will not follow Him.

The Bible would not have to have that much information,to prove God is the true God,and have warning about going astray,and to keep right,if the people God chose are automatically going to follow God anyway.

Under that circumstance,that God chose in the beginning,who will be saved,and not saved,the Bible would not have to be so big,but could be summed up like this.It would not need prophesy,to declare the God of Israel is the true God.It would not need to have warnings to not go astray.It would not need to tell us how to live,for if God chooses who will be saved,they will automatically do those things anyway.

Holy Bible,chapter 1.

1.In the beginning,God created the heaven,and the earth.
2.Love God,and love people,which I the LORD does not have to command it,for you will do it anyway.
3.God gave the Hebrews,the nation of Israel,the Old Testament covenant,in which the Gentiles could receive a blessing,if they took hold of that covenant.
4.God gave the Hebrews,the nation of Israel,the New Testament covenant,in which the Gentiles could receive a blessing,if they took hold of that covenant.,in which Jesus' died on the cross to take away their sins.
5.Jesus,and the saints,will rule over some of the people that attacked Israel,at the battle of Armageddon,for 1000 years.
6.The saints will then dwell in a new earth,and a new heaven,which I chose who would be saved,in the beginning,so there is no sense telling more.Amen.

Why would the Holy Bible have to be so long,if people are automatically going to follow God anyway.

The saints were predestined to salvation,but it did not come until 4000 years later.
The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world,but was not slain until 4000 years later.
The prophets blood was shed from the foundation of the world,but did not happen until the future.

God says He wants all people to come to repentance,and be saved,and is the Savior of all people.


All works were finished from the foundation of the world,but they did not happen until the future.
 

Zmouth

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God says He wants all people to come to repentance,and be saved,and is the Savior of all people.
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Rom 11:29

Seems the gifts and calling God would be something to be thankful for and not repentant of.

And that is something I do not understand about,once saved,always saved,and you cannot lose salvation,and God chooses who will be saved in the beginning,which would mean that everything they do in accordance with the kingdom of God,all comes from God,with no choice on their part.
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 1 Tim 2:4
 
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For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Rom 11:29

Seems the gifts and calling God would be something to be thankful for and not repentant of.

Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 1 Tim 2:4
1 Timothy 2:4 (NASB) [SUP]4 [/SUP]who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Somebody might the wrong idea with "will have".
:)
 

notuptome

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1 Timothy 2:4 (NASB) [SUP]4 [/SUP]who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Somebody might the wrong idea with "will have".
:)
Translations sometimes create misconceptions. God indeed wants all men to come to a saving knowledge of Christ. Some men will not come because their deeds are evil.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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ember

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Ember, Ember, Ember, you just had to go and do it. Now have i become your enemy because i tell you the truth? Gal. 4:16

Sour lemon Paul i reckon.

You snakes, you generation of vipers, how can you escape the damnation of hell? Matt. 23:33. Jesus said that.

Sour lemon Jesus...right Ember.

Ember do you want anything to do with sour lemon Paul, the other writers, and Jesus anymore?

Sorry Ember, you walked into that one. But i aint mad atcha! :eek:
Yet...Yet...Yet...honey

Paul addressed folks like this:
First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you

you really don't get it all, do you...

instead of indicating what scripture states in a way that people would pay attention, you gripe, complain and badmouth and lump everyone together

I have helped to build up the body of Christ when serving in church...I'm not a pew sitter...I have helped a good number of folks and encouraged others

you just like to set the curtains on fire

walked into that one? no...I walk away from that type of 'one'


 
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ember

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I pray that this sermon blesses you! I will not be answering to slander,insults or the likes. Not ONE! This sermon is really good. Let it speak for itself. I will not be answering to slander,insults or the likes. Not ONE! God bless you :)
I guess the reason you feel you don't need to respond is because you keep on slandering and insulting everyone else

the elders would throw you out of any church I have ever been in...oh first they would talk to you privately and ask you not to do your 'thing'...cause you sound like one of those loose cannon type prophet types who thinks God is speaking to everyone else when he says repent...

my experience with that type of person, is that God is first and foremost speaking to that person but they assume He means everyone else

you are like Moses striking the rock ...
 
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I guess the reason you feel you don't need to respond is because you keep on slandering and insulting everyone else

the elders would throw you out of any church I have ever been in...oh first they would talk to you privately and ask you not to do your 'thing'...cause you sound like one of those loose cannon type prophet types who thinks God is speaking to everyone else when he says repent...

my experience with that type of person, is that God is first and foremost speaking to that person but they assume He means everyone else

you are like Moses striking the rock ...

Speaking of loose cannons...........:eek: