Looking through the eyes of Scripture, not man-made theories and ideas, we are to be free of the pride of life, the lusts of the flesh and the lust of the eyes, i.e., walking in holiness and righteousness before God. So, yes I am walking free of worldliness. Praise Jesus! He gets all the glory, for without Him we can do nothing.
Are you of the World? Maybe a little?
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You can't have it both ways. A person who is on the road to Hell is not a Christian and has not been born again. A genuinely born again person will have repented of his worldliness, yet will not be 100% sinless. In fact no Christian can claim sinless perfection. At the same time those are genuine children of God will be obedient to God and Christ. They may stumble and fall occasionally, but their focus will be on righteous living and doing the will of God.
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I agree because it's what the Scriptures teach.
Yes, one must separate from worldliness as it is written. However, there might be some people who have attained sinless perfection, only God knows. I am no one's judge.
Luke 1
[5] There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the division of Abijah. His wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth.
[6] And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless. (NKJV)
I agree. If a child of God stumbles, they should immediately repent and look to Jesus to cleanse them with His blood of their sin.
Yes, one must separate from worldliness as it is written. However, there might be some people who have attained sinless perfection, only God knows. I am no one's judge.
Luke 1
[5] There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the division of Abijah. His wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth.
[6] And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless. (NKJV)
I agree. If a child of God stumbles, they should immediately repent and look to Jesus to cleanse them with His blood of their sin.
That Scripture does not read that your sin cannot separate you from God. Sin = death, not eternal life. What does the Word teach?
Romans 6
[16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
[17] But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
[18] Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. (KJV)
James 1
[14] But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
[15] Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Sin = death. Obedience = life eternal.
Romans 6
[16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
[17] But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
[18] Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. (KJV)
James 1
[14] But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
[15] Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Sin = death. Obedience = life eternal.
That's your opinion, but you're wrong. I am not a judge. I warn and admonish for peoples' good. I want to see people make it through to eternal life.
Yes, the Lord will judge and His word is the measuring stick, not man's opinions and ideas.
John 5
[26] For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,
[27] and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
[28] Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
[29] and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
[30] I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. (NKJV)
Yes, the Lord will judge and His word is the measuring stick, not man's opinions and ideas.
John 5
[26] For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,
[27] and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
[28] Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
[29] and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
[30] I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. (NKJV)
I received a new heart and a new spirit, cleansed by the blood of Jesus. What a miracle! I became a completely new person. My old ways pasted away and all things became new.
1 Corinthians 5
[17] Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. (NKJV)
Ephesians 4
[21] if indeed you have heard Him [Jesus] and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:
[22] that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,
[23] and be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
[24] and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness. (NKJV)
1 Corinthians 5
[17] Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. (NKJV)
Ephesians 4
[21] if indeed you have heard Him [Jesus] and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:
[22] that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,
[23] and be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
[24] and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness. (NKJV)
ok friend you received a new heart or a renewed heart ?
you received a new spirit or a renewed spirit.
not that I'm questioning your salvation because I dislike that happening to people
as as far as I'm aware you don't get possessed by a spirit, you recieve the fruits of spirit.
OK besides this when you confessed Jesus was lord, how long was it afterwards you felt a change.
you received a new spirit or a renewed spirit.
not that I'm questioning your salvation because I dislike that happening to people
as as far as I'm aware you don't get possessed by a spirit, you recieve the fruits of spirit.
OK besides this when you confessed Jesus was lord, how long was it afterwards you felt a change.
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Hi.. that is not what the sweet holy Spirit was saying. Is it not written "If you belonged to the world, the world would love [you as] its own and would treat you with affection. But you are not of the world [you no longer belong to it], but I have chosen you out of the world. And because of this the world hates you."
So if I love the world I would be called a sinner. I have been born again born from above so its impossible for me to be part of both. Oh yes I know you can get stuck on "sin" but Christ already took care of that. See you leave this out or you do not understand but Christ cannot lie. He said "you are not of this world".
Please don't spectate when it comes to who goes to heaven and who does not. I again read 1st John 2 and no where did I find God by His sweet sweet holy Spirit saying "and you cannot get to Heaven that way." "you must be separated unto the gospel of Jesus Christ to inherit eternal life" or "one foot in the world".
That is what you get from 1st John 2 15-17? John never said that. He said love "of the" Father is not in him. What does "of the" mean? Not once is "salvation" addressed or hinted at. Its not talking about the "cares" of this life.
Take 1st John 2:11 never once talks about address before or after about salvation. If I hate my bother I am still walking in darkness. That is not about salvation. It for me shows how some do not fully understand who they are who loves them died for them. Salvation is not something we can just undo by a thought or a sin. I can not undo that "new man" which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness <---that is who I am. Many times we hear "if you love Him you will obey Him". Yes He can not lie. This is where speculation pops up "your not saved if you don't love Jesus". We notice Christ never said that when He first found them or that year or the next. It was only after they had walked lived with Him day and night. I never loved Jesus when He found me.. I had no clue who HE was yet I was saved living forever.
So love "of the" Father. Some will not understand.. that love is not of me its of Him. Not something I can conjure up.. not something I can just make happen. The 12 with Paul.. you can see the love "of the" Father in them. Its ok.. we know don't we "I'm not budging". Praise God
So if I love the world I would be called a sinner. I have been born again born from above so its impossible for me to be part of both. Oh yes I know you can get stuck on "sin" but Christ already took care of that. See you leave this out or you do not understand but Christ cannot lie. He said "you are not of this world".
Please don't spectate when it comes to who goes to heaven and who does not. I again read 1st John 2 and no where did I find God by His sweet sweet holy Spirit saying "and you cannot get to Heaven that way." "you must be separated unto the gospel of Jesus Christ to inherit eternal life" or "one foot in the world".
That is what you get from 1st John 2 15-17? John never said that. He said love "of the" Father is not in him. What does "of the" mean? Not once is "salvation" addressed or hinted at. Its not talking about the "cares" of this life.
Take 1st John 2:11 never once talks about address before or after about salvation. If I hate my bother I am still walking in darkness. That is not about salvation. It for me shows how some do not fully understand who they are who loves them died for them. Salvation is not something we can just undo by a thought or a sin. I can not undo that "new man" which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness <---that is who I am. Many times we hear "if you love Him you will obey Him". Yes He can not lie. This is where speculation pops up "your not saved if you don't love Jesus". We notice Christ never said that when He first found them or that year or the next. It was only after they had walked lived with Him day and night. I never loved Jesus when He found me.. I had no clue who HE was yet I was saved living forever.
So love "of the" Father. Some will not understand.. that love is not of me its of Him. Not something I can conjure up.. not something I can just make happen. The 12 with Paul.. you can see the love "of the" Father in them. Its ok.. we know don't we "I'm not budging". Praise God
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