Assurance of Salvation

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Guojing

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wattie said:
A thing I read recently.. people sort of have 'lizard' brain.. where emotions and feelings can be too much..flight or fight..and then the other side is more nous.. logical.. reasoned.

People tend to go into the lizard brain mode more than the other side.

Gods Word engages both sides of the brain.. emotion and reason.. to settle, calm and assure us.

But yeah in that anxious state.. it takes a while to calm. The lizard brain flight or flight mode puts adrenalin thru our system
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I think you are referring to the reptilian part of our brain

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/managing-your-memory/201712/don-t-listen-your-lizard-brain
 
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Guojing said:
Salvation happens in your spirit so its expected that you cannot feel your own salvation, since feeling is in the realm of the soul.

But you can be rest assured that, as long as you followed 1 Cor 15:1-4, you believed that Jesus died for your sins and rose again from the dead 3 days later, your spirit is now reborn and the Holy Spirit has now taken residence with your own spirit.

You cannot "feel" it, but you will be glad to know that your spirit always believes the Word of God.
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The power of God is described as dynamite unto salvation,( dunamis ).

So sit on a stick of dynamite, lite the fuse, and tell me if you feel something!
 
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NathanielL said:
I'm not sure if this the right place to post this, but I wanted to give this a shot.

I grew up in a Christian family. I was supposedly saved when I was young. I don't remember that, but I do remember being baptized. Regardless, I am trusting in Jesus, but I can't put a date on when I was really saved and I hate that. I have prayed the sinners prayer many times (I know it's not the prayer that saves). I know I am a sinner in need of Jesus for salvation and I am trusting in Him as Lord and Savior and am following Him. And yet, I can't get a sense of assurance of salvation.

I truly feel like God has been working in my life lately. A certain event happened about a year ago that I feel was God getting my attention. And get my attention He did and since then I feel He has been working in my life. I've gotten more involved in church: I attend most services, participate in our prayer services and meetings, go out on our evangelism events, made myself pray out loud and lead in prayer because I felt He was leading me to do that. And I know none of these works save me. It's what Jesus did. I feel He has been working in my life, and I have been putting in a real effort to seek Him. And yet, I can't get an assurance of salvation.

Instead I have this constant anxiety. At one moment, I feel like I'm not saved and feel anxious about that. Another moment I feel I'm saved but am anxious because I feel I've sinned by saying some like, "today was a great day" to someone when in reality it was a good day, so I feel I lied and need to ask for forgiveness and go to that person and be like, "yeah I lied when I said it was a great day, it was actually a good day" and that will eat at me and eat at me. In all this, I don't know if this is God prompting me, or if the enemy at work, or if it's my own heart condemning me. And it's just wearing on me to the point I feel I can't do this Christian walk. But I refuse to turn away.

I know a big part of my questioning of salvation is the fact I don't have a date to my salvation and don't have the, "I realized I wasn't saved and then trusted in the Lord and then my life was transformed" story. And I feel other Christians are so much more spiritual than me so that makes me question things.

I'm just very exhausted and am reaching out to fellow believers for encouragement and advice, and to see if any of you have struggled too. I apologize if this is posted in the wrong place.
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Sounds like you are being called out by the Father. The next step is to respond in Faith. What that means is we respond to the call of the Father by surrendering our lives to Him and live a life inspired by that daily surrender.
 
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Guojing

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Pisteuo said:
The power of God is described as dynamite unto salvation,( dunamis ).

So sit on a stick of dynamite, lite the fuse, and tell me if you feel something!
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I prefer to rely on scripture, thanks.

John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
 
JohnRH

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NathanielL said:
I'm not sure if this the right place to post this, but I wanted to give this a shot.

I grew up in a Christian family. I was supposedly saved when I was young. I don't remember that, but I do remember being baptized. Regardless, I am trusting in Jesus, but I can't put a date on when I was really saved and I hate that. I have prayed the sinners prayer many times (I know it's not the prayer that saves). I know I am a sinner in need of Jesus for salvation and I am trusting in Him as Lord and Savior and am following Him. And yet, I can't get a sense of assurance of salvation.

I truly feel like God has been working in my life lately. A certain event happened about a year ago that I feel was God getting my attention. And get my attention He did and since then I feel He has been working in my life. I've gotten more involved in church: I attend most services, participate in our prayer services and meetings, go out on our evangelism events, made myself pray out loud and lead in prayer because I felt He was leading me to do that. And I know none of these works save me. It's what Jesus did. I feel He has been working in my life, and I have been putting in a real effort to seek Him. And yet, I can't get an assurance of salvation.

Instead I have this constant anxiety. At one moment, I feel like I'm not saved and feel anxious about that. Another moment I feel I'm saved but am anxious because I feel I've sinned by saying some like, "today was a great day" to someone when in reality it was a good day, so I feel I lied and need to ask for forgiveness and go to that person and be like, "yeah I lied when I said it was a great day, it was actually a good day" and that will eat at me and eat at me. In all this, I don't know if this is God prompting me, or if the enemy at work, or if it's my own heart condemning me. And it's just wearing on me to the point I feel I can't do this Christian walk. But I refuse to turn away.

I know a big part of my questioning of salvation is the fact I don't have a date to my salvation and don't have the, "I realized I wasn't saved and then trusted in the Lord and then my life was transformed" story. And I feel other Christians are so much more spiritual than me so that makes me question things.

I'm just very exhausted and am reaching out to fellow believers for encouragement and advice, and to see if any of you have struggled too. I apologize if this is posted in the wrong place.
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I'm not sure 'when' I was born again either. But then I don't recall being born the first time either -but here I am, so I know it happened.
If you're trusting Jesus for salvation, then the assurance of your salvation is found in God's promises:

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:15 (KJV)

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (KJV)

He that believeth on him is not condemned ... John 3:18 (KJV)

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life ... John 3:36 (KJV)

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24 (KJV)

And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:40 (KJV)

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. John 6:47 (KJV)

But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. John 20:31 (KJV)

10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 1 John 5:10-13 (KJV)
 
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Pisteuo

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Guojing said:
I prefer to rely on scripture, thanks.

John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
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Ya I know your Faith is resting on scripture, that's the problem. My Faith rests on God Himself, a real living person.
 
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Pisteuo said:
Ya I know your Faith is resting on scripture, that's the problem. My Faith rests on God Himself, a real living person.
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The word is God. Jesus is the word made flesh. They are equivalent
 
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New birth in Christ is one evidence of salvation. Walking in newness of life is an evidence of salvation. Desiring to be like Christ is another evidence of salvation.

New birth, repentance toward sin, and baptism are all evidences of salvation. Without repentance and sanctification only doubt will prevail.

Assurance is found in a desire to read Gods word and to forsake the old life of sin. Old friends old habits and old conduct are forsaken for Christ.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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