atheists hear about GOD The Father giving up His only Son, but they don't understand what that entails.

[pittsburghjoe]

• JESUS CHRIST was the only one that could keep the Spirit in His Blood without sin until the Sacrifice.
  
  
• We become The Body of CHRIST as a Community/Kingdom to Represent the physical loss of JESUS until The Return.

As JESUS Raised, it gave us The Way (Reborn in the Holy Image) to become like Him and be in GOD'S Presence. If we are in His Image then GOD will not turn away from us at Judgment because JESUS ALREADY DID IT ("My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?").

The Law of Sin allows us to escape our fate (sin=death) through JESUS. GOD will not force His Will/Presence on you, you can choose flames if you want (making your own plan).

JESUS is forming Citizens for His Kingdom (Peaceful Infinity/LIFE) via The Reborn Holy Image. GOD is filtering out the people His Presence can't be around ...deal with the situation we are in.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

eating from the tree of man's knowledge is planning your future death. The Tree of LIFE Plan ends in Peaceful Infinity.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

That future death is the end of the opportunity to Choose the Plan of LIFE.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The trees of the Garden are plans, GOD'S Plan is the Tree of LIFE, your own tempted plan with satan is the tree of man's knowledge (sin/death).

 

[Pilgrimshope]

If only they weren’t atheists 🙂 who believe there is no God , they might

“For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:7-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If only they weren’t atheists 🙂 who believe there is no God , they might

“For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:7-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Thanks for pointing out this section of Romans.

Shaping to The Holy Image (starts with being Reborn) is about keeping The Atonement and gives us Joy. To become lukewarm with excuses to sin is to lose Atonement, they corrupted the key to The Gift (Justification of Life). We needed the Law of Sin for The Gift to cause Justification.

Romans 5:11-15, 18, 21
And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Thanks for pointing out this section of Romans.

Shaping to The Holy Image (starts with being Reborn) is about keeping The Atonement and gives us Joy. To become lukewarm with excuses to sin is to lose Atonement, they corrupted the key to The Gift (Justification of Life). We needed the Law of Sin for The Gift to cause Justification.

Romans 5:11-15, 18, 21
And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

I was just saying to your op , if they were believers

“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is,

and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

They would be able to see the expression of the Fathers Love when Christ laid down his life for us and the message of what we’re supposed to do from his love

“Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it seems that faith is a requirement believing he exists , and also that he is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him . And really if we actually believed in God according to his word , who wouldn’t be diligent about seeking after the one who created all thkngs , promises eternal life , and made it possible by sacrificing his own blood to purchase us from sin and death ?

it seems real faith isn’t just to say something but would create a diligence of the believer in life to pursue the gospel

 

[Ivin]

A priest told this story in Sundays school to help us understand God's love.

There was once a bridge that spanned a large river. During most of the day the bridge sat with its length running up and down the river paralleled with the banks, allowing ships to pass through freely on both sides of the bridge. But at certain times each day, a train would come along and the bridge would be turned sideways across the river, allowing the train to cross it.
A switchman sat in a shack on one side of the river where he operated the controls to turn the bridge and lock it into place as the train crossed.
One evening as the switchman was waiting for the last train of the day to come, he looked off into the distance through the dimming twilight and caught sight of the train lights. He stepped onto the control and waited until the train was within a prescribed distance. Then he was to turn the bridge. He turned the bridge into position, but, to his horror, he found the locking control did not work. If the bridge was not securely in position, it would cause the train to jump the track and go crashing into the river. This would be a passenger train with MANY people aboard.
He left the bridge turned across the river and hurried across the bridge to the other side of the river, where there was a lever switch he could hold to operate the lock manually.
He would have to hold the lever back firmly as the train crossed. He could hear the rumble of the train now, and he took hold of the lever and leaned backward to apply his weight to it, locking the bridge. He kept applying the pressure to keep the mechanism locked. Many lives depended on this man’s strength.
Then, coming across the bridge from the direction of his control shack, he heard a sound that made his blood run cold.
“Daddy, where are you?” His four-year-old son was crossing the bridge to look for him. His first impulse was to cry out to the child, “Run! Run!” But the train was too close; the tiny legs would never make it across the bridge in time..
The man almost left his lever to snatch up his son and carry him to safety. But he realized that he could not get back to the lever in time if he saved his son.
Either many people on the train or his own son – must die.
He took but a moment to make his decision. The train sped safely and swiftly on its way, and no one aboard was even aware of the tiny broken body thrown mercilessly into the river by the on rushing train. Nor were they aware of the pitiful figure of the sobbing man, still clinging to the locking lever long after the train had passed. They did not see him walking home more slowly than he had ever walked; to tell his wife how their son had brutally died.
Now, if you comprehend the emotions that went through this man’s heart, you can begin to understand the feelings of Our Father in Heaven when He sacrificed His Son to bridge the gap between us and eternal life.
Can there be any wonder that He caused the earth to tremble and the skies to darken when His Son died? How does He feel when we speed along through life without giving a thought to what was done for us through Jesus Christ?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

“I and my Father are one.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:30‬ ‭

“As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.

This commandment have I received of my Father.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:15-18‬ ‭

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?

the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭

“Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.

Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;”
‭‭John‬ ‭13:1, 3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:5‬ ‭


“Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭20:27-28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Icedaisey]

In response to your thread title. Of course they don't. They're anti-theist. Anti-God.


1 Corinthians 2:14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.