Awesome Healing.

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ladylynn

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You can't put God in a box. He is Almighty God, with or without our understanding. He is a mystery and a paradox to our mortal minds. Jesus Christ is the Living Word and every word He speaks is Spirit and Truth. It isn't for us to define Him, not even to understand Him, but to trust Him. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. It's a mystery, it's miraculous, it's REALITY with or without our understanding.

We don't put our hope in some victory, we don't put our hope in a healing, our hope is in Christ Jesus, the Victor, in Jehovah Rapha, the Lord our Healer.

Putting God in a box is something everyone does at some time or other so they can open up the box and use their understanding of who God is to feed their own agenda., I think people do this because they don't know any better. It's what people do.

But to believe that God is going to do what He says in His Word is not putting Him in a box. That is having faith in Him to be true. This kind of faith pleases Him. Being able to trust Him is what roots us and grounds us in His Word and our confidence in Him. This is also pleasing to Him. It focuses on Him and not us.
 
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prodigal

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why wasn't faith enough for the woman with the bleeding, surely if she had enough faith then why wasn't she healed till she touched the hem of Jesus cloak, or the friends who broke through the ceiling to access Jesus, surely if they had enough faith then there friend would have already been healed by what your saying. or the blind men shouting son of david have mercy on me, they had enough faith to shout so loud some tried to quieten them. why werent they already healed before their encounter with Jesus, they seemed to have enough faith. If we take lack of faith means lack of healing then all the mentally challenged christians who died mentally challenged your saying never had enough faith, and what about christians that die blind, there simply lacking faith you suggest. How about the christian mother who watches her baby child die in her arms. she can live the rest of her life thinking if only she had enough faith. this is a doctrine i refuse to follow and yes i have had and seen healings but that was the grace of god nothing to do with me, and i would never lord it over someone whose struggling in health that somehow i am much better than them in the faith department is why i am healed and they are not..
 

blue_ladybug

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I know lots of folks who died but haven't laid down yet. They're usually driving slowly in the left lane. :p

I'm glad you're healed, my Sister. Wouldn't be the same here without you. :)

​Thank you, Utah. Actually thank God. He's the reason why I'm still living.. :)
 
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ladylynn

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It has to be said that if we believe anything it must be based on God's Word and not on people's experiences. If no one ever got healed yet God's Word teaches it, I will believe God's Word above people's experiences. And so, many people have experienced healing and many have not that is a fact. So it is our choice how we are going to believe on this subject of healing based on the Bible, not how much we see people experiencing the truth of God's Word. It can't be on that kind of flimsy foundation. It has to be on the foundation of the Bible.

There are a whole bunch of Believers in Christ who teach from the Bible that there is healing in the atonement. And there are a whole bunch of Believers in Christ who teach from the Bible there is no physical healing in the atonement. I did not know what the Bible said about healing since our church didn't believe or preach it. So therefore it never concerned me since it was always believed God sent this thorn and a Christians is to accept from God what He sends and suffer willingly. Now since hearing about healing in the Bible I see it differently.



Another point of view about healing...



One of the most elementary principles in God's Word is given in James 4:7. It says,

"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."

This verse clearly teaches that some things are of God, and some things are of the devil. Notice it doesn't present a third category: from God through the devil. No! Sickness has nothing to do with God! Submit to the things of God, and resist the things of the devil. It's that simple. To believe that God allows or approves of Satan's actions defies the logic of James 4:7. It eliminates our responsibility to resist and places ultimate responsibility for everything back on God.

The widely-accepted doctrine that God controls everything is a deception. If Satan can confuse and deceive you on that issue, he's got you! Why? Because you'll stop resisting. No one wants to resist God's will, and if you think that God is behind your sickness, you'll submit to it. That violates the instruction of James 4:7, it won't get you healed, and it lets Satan have his way in your life.

You must believe God always wants you healed. It's so simple, it takes help to misunderstand. But sadly, most Christians receive plenty of help from religion in misunderstanding this. Look at it this way: If God wanted you sick, for whatever reason, then why visit the doctor or take medication? It would seem more logical to allow the sickness to run its course so God's purpose could be accomplished. Of course I think that's foolish, and hopefully, so do you.

What's the bottom line on God's will for our healing? His Word reveals that to us in 3 John 2, which says,

"Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth."

John was writing a letter to believers under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. He revealed that the Lord wants us healthy just as much as He wants us to prosper emotionally and mentally.

When Peter preached the Gospel to Cornelius in Acts 10:38, he summarized the ministry of Jesus by saying,

"How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him."

Today some preachers are saying that healing is of the devil, but that's not the message Peter gave. Notice what Peter said under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Not only was Jesus doing good when He healed people, but He healed all that were oppressed of the devil, not of God. That scripture clearly proves that sickness is not from God.

Isaiah 53 should end all debate. It was written prophetically about Jesus, the Messiah. Isaiah 53:4-5 says,

"Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."

These verses reveal that physical healing is a part of the atonement of Christ. The Lord redeemed us from sickness just as much as He redeemed us from sin. He would no more want us to be sick than He would want us to sin. Those are radical statements to many Christians because we've been taught that forgiveness of sins is what salvation is all about. Well that's certainly a vital part of salvation, but that's not all that Jesus accomplished. We were also healed by His stripes. Sickness is not of God just as sin is not of God. Thank You, Jesus!

Just in case anyone might be thinking that the healing spoken of in Isaiah 53:4-5 is not physical but only emotional, the Bible gives a commentary on Isaiah's prophecy. In Matthew 8:16 Jesus healed all the sick people brought to Him, and verse 17 says this was done…

"That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses."

Therefore, Scripture comments on itself and makes it very clear that the healing spoken of by Isaiah is referring to physical infirmities and sicknesses. If Jesus bore our sicknesses, then we don't have to.

You may be asking yourself, "What about Paul's thorn in the flesh?" I wish I had space to answer that in this article because those scriptures are not talking about a sickness of Paul's that the Lord would not heal. However, I do have an entire teaching revealing what Paul's thorn in the flesh was. That teaching is the second in a four-part series I have entitled God Wants You Well. The first teaching in that series deals with healing as a part of Christ's atonement, the second deals with Paul's thorn in the flesh, the third reveals reasons why people are not healed, and the fourth teaches that healing is governed by laws and reveals some of those laws. I encourage you to take advantage of these resources we are offering on healing.


 

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Poor Pablo...

2 Timothy 4:20 (KJV) Erastus abode at Corinth: but Trophimus have I left at Miletum sick.

1 Timothy 5:23 (KJV) Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.
 
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VioletReigns

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​Thank you, Utah. Actually thank God. He's the reason why I'm still living.. :)
I agree with brother Utah! I'm also glad you're healed and here with us, Lady Blue!!! \:D/ I love you, sister!!

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atwhatcost

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Here we go again with arguing. Can't we just thank God for this healing instead of attacking?
If only Gerry would do that, but he's preaching he and his father did the miracles. If he's not profiting from that book, who is? It's a costly book.

He also keeps saying he's here to do Gods will, but seems to think God's will is to hawk his book. (His sales pitch has been removed in his introduction post.) He's here to market his book.

I'd be interested in your honest opinion about the book when you're done reading it. I strongly suspect you'll see what I see then. WestBow Publishers is a vanity publisher for Christians. (That means they'll print anything at the right price.)
 
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ladylynn

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Am continually reminded it is from the Bible we have to get our understanding. And that people have an understanding of scripture and the HolySpirit has a way for us to understand scripture. Being challenged to grow in that understanding via faith.



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Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust."
(2 Peter 1:2-4)

These verses say that all things that pertain unto life and godliness are given unto us through the knowledge of God. Certainly, faith must be one of those things because without faith it is impossible to please God (Heb. 11:6). So faith must come through the knowledge of God. That's the reason Romans 10:17 says faith comes by hearing the Word of God. The amount of faith that you operate in is directly proportional to the revelation knowledge that you have of God through His Word.

Many people have found it very difficult to operate in faith. That is because they either don't have the real knowledge of God's Word in them, or they have let the Word slip and be choked by the knowledge of the world. Fear comes through carnal knowledge, just as faith and all things that pertain unto life come through godly knowledge. Most Christians today (even Spirit-filled Christians) are full of the knowledge about how to operate in Satan's system but are really deficient in the knowledge it takes to prosper in God's system. So, it is not really a faith problem that exists, but it is rather a Word problem.
 
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ladylynn

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grc

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Kathryn Kuhlman wrote it it must be good thank you I will look at it. I was moved to stop the rain 4 times, the last about 20 years ago its never happened since and I have been stuck on a bike in the woods in a pouring rain we move when prompted by the spirit. In James it says be not quick to lay on of hands. The spirit must lead amen?
 

grc

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Thank you for standing with me against the the naysayers. But this is why this message must get out . It will reach those who may not now believe. And it may strengthen someone who does believe to step out in faith.
Some people think this was for just the Apostles, but it was for His disciples also. And He sent them forth two by two the apostles and seventy others also. And when the seventy returned they said even the demons are subject unto us through thy name.
They were disciples. What does the great commission tell us at the end of the Gospels . The Apostles were ordered to make disciples of all nations. Then even the demons are subject unto US in His name. Amen?
 

grc

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I must say i love the way you put things. Your right it is a word problem but its a hearing problem because faith comes be hearing the word of God. And Although the have ears they do not hear. We should all experience coming out of our bodies and being fully conscious in Gods presence then come back. You will view this life, this body and a knowledge of the spirit over the flesh. The spirit is life the flesh is useless.
 

grc

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People like you make me sad. I speak of my book only because it will inspire people. I would have to sell 6000 copies to break even , so obviously thats not what its all about. All I want is for someone to increase their faith but Im sure some will findfaultwith that too. And to set the record straight I never mentioned anyone buy it nor did I give prices . I did offer a free ebook and told how to get a free read in the book. I only want to inspire
I did do what i set out to do I stirred the public. All that was being talked about was whatdrink they had. Where was God? You dont praise God by saying praise God. You speak of Gods blessings and witness to people. You should ask God if your motives are led of Gods spirit, or somewhere else like jealousy, anger, or unbelief.
 
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ladylynn

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People like you make me sad. I speak of my book only because it will inspire people. I would have to sell 6000 copies to break even , so obviously thats not what its all about. All I want is for someone to increase their faith but Im sure some will findfaultwith that too. And to set the record straight I never mentioned anyone buy it nor did I give prices . I did offer a free ebook and told how to get a free read in the book. I only want to inspire
I did do what i set out to do I stirred the public. All that was being talked about was whatdrink they had. Where was God? You dont praise God by saying praise God. You speak of Gods blessings and witness to people. You should ask God if your motives are led of Gods spirit, or somewhere else like jealousy, anger, or unbelief.


Thank you grc for your encouragement here. I know the joy of sharing isn't always received by people in the way we hope so don't be discouraged. God knows your heart. Blessings brother.
 

grc

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First of all prodigal, look at the woman with bleeding her faith was if "if I could just touch the hem of his garment", she had faith of that and when she touched His hem as she believed she was healed. Jesus will didnt heal her He didnt know what happened until it happened the He felt virtue flow from Him.
And the friends had faith that if they could bring him in front of Jesus, again thats where their faith ended and their faith in Jesus was right.
But you need to understand that that time period was unique the Holy Spirit had not been given to us yet. At that point they had god with them in Jesus. Thats why Jesus told them He had to go away for God to send the
holy spirit.
Finally if I looked at faith like you do I would not want anything to do with it either. You have faith in God condeming those who "dont have" enough and thats not the doctrine I believe in. You have taken the meaning of having faith in God to hear and help us and twisted it.
I cant Lord it over anyone because I know Im nothing special, except to God. I dont feel better than the worse sinner because except for grace I deserve hell, not miracles.
Its insane to make anyone feel bad because they did not have enough faith. How cruel to put that on a new mother thats not the God I serve.
But if you want an explanation for all the bad that happens to good people no one can answer you. But to turn your back on God like your doing is wrong. I have a 24 year old son with retardation/ autism. He is non verbal and self abusive., If I were that great he would be talking by now. WE DONT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS. But I have worked miracles by Gods spirit in me through the name of Jesus Christ. The idea is to be there when God wants to use you. I dont run around laying on hands and commanding everyone healed.
 

grc

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Thank you ladylynn for your kind words. I opened up a hornets nest im being attacked everywhere.I have recieved a lot of support and encouragement from loving faith filled people like you
May God bless your loving kind heart all my love my sister in Christ. Jerry