Backsliding...

[SweetShelly35]

I have done what I never thought i would do....back slide. I have been under an enormous amount of stress, and as a result have vented to people about my problems with problems. (AKA Gossiping)
My question is this...Do I need to walk do the aisle for alter call again? I am still saved? I still love God but I don't think he is proud of my lately. I hope my salvation is not at risk.

 

[JimJimmers]

Shelly, if you are feeling God showing you doing wrong, He is correcting you. "And whom the Lord loveth, He chasteneth." You don't need to walk down the aisle again, but confess your sin, and ask God to forgive you.

And I am not entirely sure what you did, but venting is not necessarily gossip. Telling something private about another person is, especially if you just heard it through the grapevine, and don't know it to be true.

 

[bealight2012]

Turn from those ways and keep your eyes on God... repent and turn back. God is faithful he doesn't turn his back on us because we turn ours on him...just DON'T sin WILLINGLY....ever. you are still loved and always loved and tell your worries to God and worry no more but rejoice always( this is something I'm still working on JS

God bless you

 

[mdankoski]

Shelly, please consider the following verses. In one it says that if we are born of God we do not commit sin, yet in the next it says that if we do sin, we have an advocate, and in the last it says that if we say we do not sin we are liars. They are all written by the same author, and in the same book. I agree that they sound contradictory, but they are not.

1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

In the original, they refer to WILLFUL sin as opposed to MISTAKES. to make it simple. If you willfully sin after receiving knowledge of the Truth, you've heard about being turned over to a reprobate mind, but this isn't concerned with mistakes, but with actually turning against God on purpose. If you are even concerned about it in the least, you haven't done that! In your case, you made a mistake, that's all, and as John said, He understands, and you have an advocate. You don't need an altar call or a repentance prayer. Just be sorry and tell Him that! If you said you never sinned since you became a Christian, you would be a liar, and make the bible a liar, too. You did what he allowed you to do, and had planned for you to do to learn some lesson or other. So apologize, thank Him for showing you what you did, ask Him to help you learn, and go on your way rejoicing that He loved you enough to show you something.

And claim THIS verse for yourself

Pro 24:16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.

(A just, born again person will fall 7 times, which is God's number of a completed work, and rise again, or your'e bound to blow it until you finally get it, then finally rise above it once and for all) See what I mean? He loves you enough to let you do it and see what you did in order that you and He could take care of it together. THAT'S LOVE!

Let me know if there's any way I can help,
Mike

 

[enochson]

this doesn't make sense! please show me a ver. in the new testament about backsliding? Who teaching you this self-condemnation?

 

[psychomom]

I have prayed for you, Shelly. I was taught that conviction is from the Lord, to lead us back into right relationship with Him.
But condemnation is from the enemy, in hopes we will feel too "dirty" to return to the One Who loves us.
I urge you to seek your Father, who willingly forgives sin! The Lord Jesus sacrificed Himself for your forgiveness. It rightfully beongs to you, child of God.

Blessings and love,
ellie

 

[Tommy4Christ]

I have done what I never thought i would do....back slide. I have been under an enormous amount of stress, and as a result have vented to people about my problems with problems. (AKA Gossiping)
My question is this...Do I need to walk do the aisle for alter call again? I am still saved? I still love God but I don't think he is proud of my lately. I hope my salvation is not at risk.

You need to go and do your first works, Rev 2-5, no such thing as a backsliding Christian, unless you repent, and I dont mean sin repent, sin repent, or gossip repent, fornicate repent, lie repent etc..

The false church teaches you can do this, then just rededicate yourself to God again, by admitting and confessing your sins to HIm.

Dont buy into the lie that just repeating a simple prayer you are saved, Jesus commands us to repent, obey, and follow Him on the narrow path, not admit, confess, then trust its all been done for you.

Who can tell if God will turn, and forgive:​

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Jon 3:9 Who can tell if God will turn, and forgive: and will turn away from his fierce anger, and we shall not perish?
Jon 3:10 And God saw their works, that they were turned from their evil way: and God had mercy with regard to the evil which He had said that he would do to them, and He did it not.​

Most know the powerful story of repentance and faith proven by deeds, explained in great detail in Jonah CH 3. Many who teach the false gospel today will say either repentance isn't mandatory to receive mercy and salvation, or that it is necessary, but comes sometime later, after one accepts Jesus as their savior.
They will also say that Jonah was Old Testament, and that all has changed for the New Testament Christian, but is this so? Can you bank all your hopes and dreams on this premise?
Jesus has something to say about this:
Mat 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it, because they repented at the proclaiming of Jonah,(truth) and behold, One greater than Jonah is here. (Jesus)!
Basically Jesus is making it perfectly clear what He meant by repentance, and in no way did he say you could continue in unrepentant sin and enter the kingdom, as most liberal churches teach today!! He also makes a very profound statement, saying there is one greater than Jonah here, and it is God(Jesus), so the word's from His mouth still apply to us, and to an even greater power, as to what He meant when He said in Luke 13-3, repent or perish!
So as it stands, Jonah preached the word of God to the city of Nineveh, they yielded to it, from the convicting power of the spirit of God, which comes to convict the world of sin, righteousness and judgment,
Joh 16:8 And when that One comes, He will convict the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment.
Joh 16:9 Concerning sin, because they do not believe on Me;
Joh 16:10 concerning righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
Joh 16:11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
The whole city by their own free will and ability chose to obey from the heart as they were convicted, seeking the mercy of God, by first repenting of all their vile sins, they came before the mercy seat, broken, humiliated, and humbled, as God granted them the privilege of repentance, that prepared their hearts to receive His great mercy.
But their repentance had to be real, and from the heart, none of this confess, trust and believe Jesus did it all for me false message, but just the opposite, where real repentance and faith is proven by deeds, which was the great remorse and sorrow Nineveh displayed as they fasted, put on sackcloth and ashes, and sought the mercy of God for all their vile sins!
God grants repentance, God grants mercy, God is the author and finisher of our salvation, but we have our part to do in all of this, and He implores us to run the race with diligence and forbearance, to hold fast, to work out OUR own salvation with fear and trembling, less we become shipwrecked in our faith!
Thus getting to the end, and thinking Jesus finished the race for us, as most teach today! He finished the race as an example for us to follow, He didn't do it for us in any way, shape or form, BUT gives us all we need IN Him to run the race, endure to the end, and overcome sin, temptation, and the snares of the evil one! He did it, we can do it, or choose not to, live a complacent lukewarm life on the fringe, and hope to slide in under the wire banking on a provision that your false teacher told you happened when you accepted Jesus into your heart many years ago!
Folks, this is dead faith (the faith of demons) and will not add up to anything at the judgment!
2Ti 2:25 in meekness instructing those who oppose, if perhaps God will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth,
2Ti 2:26 and that they awake out of the snare of the Devil, having been taken captive by him, so as to do the will of that one.
The message is clear, coming from above, we are commanded to repent, seek the mercy of God and hope and pray He relents and grants us pardon and forgiveness of sins as the whole city of Nineveh did!
America needs to heed this warning and repent as the city of Nineveh, from the president down to the lowly:
Eze 33:11 Say to them: As I live, says the Lord GOD, I have no delight in the death of the wicked, except in the turning of the wicked from his way, and so to live. Turn, turn from your evil ways; for why will you die, O house of Israel?
Tommy 7-18-12

 

[starfield]

I have done what I never thought i would do....back slide. I have been under an enormous amount of stress, and as a result have vented to people about my problems with problems. (AKA Gossiping)
My question is this...Do I need to walk do the aisle for alter call again? I am still saved? I still love God but I don't think he is proud of my lately. I hope my salvation is not at risk.

The Christian living is running a race to win an incorruptible prize and it needs dedication and consistency. Yeah, sometimes we fall but it's important to get up and continue this race. Don't give up even though Satan wants you to give up.
You don't need to walk up the aisle for alter call. God is giving you a helping hand as a loving Father; He wants to lift you up. Talk to Him in a personal prayer asking Him for growth unto the measure of the fullness of His dear Son and for the grace to live a consistent godly life.

God bless

 

[Crossfire]

While salvation can not be lost, it can be willingly forfeited. While it's true that God does not command from us something that He himself isn't willing to bestow upon us, God fully expects us to love like Jesus loved and to live like Jesus lived because, once saved, God has given us His Spirit, the same Spirit and nature that dwelt in Christ.

So many today teach and preach the unconditional love of God and it is true however, they fail to comprehend that because God loves us so much that He has given us a portion of Himself to empower us to love others just as He loves us. Scripture states that we are to be Holy just as our God is Holy and to be perfect just as God our God perfect. He's not asking anything from us that He Himself has not already provided for (ie. the divine nature).

How is salvation forfeited? When we willingly refuse to follow the leading Holy Spirit. Our sin grieves Him due to the fact that He has provided everything necessary to overcome our sinful tendencies when we place our complete trust in the Word of God and are willing to surrender fully to His will. Unwillingness to surrender to His will, refusing to humble yourself and repent when the Holy Spirit is calling out to you to do so, that what it means to forfeit your salvation. Keep in mind that this doesn't happen over night or after a single or handful of willing sins. However, the Bible clearly describes in Romans 1 how the Lord is willing to turn one over to a "reprobate" mind (a lost state) if they absolutely refuse to humble themselves.

 

[resurrection33]

I have done what I never thought i would do....back slide. I have been under an enormous amount of stress, and as a result have vented to people about my problems with problems. (AKA Gossiping)
My question is this...Do I need to walk do the aisle for alter call again? I am still saved? I still love God but I don't think he is proud of my lately. I hope my salvation is not at risk.

I’m not sure what an altar call is. Repent of your sin.

 

[flowerof3]

shelley the important thing is you know that you have sinned, and that's good , pray and ask God for forgiveness , we often can't forgive ourselves for the things we do but one thing to remember is WE ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALL SHORT. God knows that we are not perfect , and yes most of us have done or said something in our lives that we wish we could do over.

i also have to thank you because your question made me think about myself i can't blame anyone for my words at work but i always made myself proud by not gossiping at work and would tell people i have nothing to do with it, if you have something to say tell the person ,i would also tell them that when the gossip is about you trust me you won't like it and it won't feel good,etc....but several months now i work with another coworker from a different shift comes in the morning for 2 hours and yes the gossiping started although i was giving my opinion it became full blown gossip and as i'm writing this i feel angry with myself and will go back to work with a different attitude , i will make sure that gossip will stop with me, and i kind of feel ashamed, i always tried to be positive and always find the best in everyone

 

[OFM]

I have done what I never thought i would do....back slide. I have been under an enormous amount of stress, and as a result have vented to people about my problems with problems. (AKA Gossiping)
My question is this...Do I need to walk do the aisle for alter call again? I am still saved? I still love God but I don't think he is proud of my lately. I hope my salvation is not at risk.

Shelly we all have stress and hings we are working on do not allways come out our way for us some days,You have not lost our Salvation,i know and see in your heart and spirit how much you love Jesus,Read 1 John 1:7-9 and then feel guilt free be blessed agian in the Loveful Loving Love Of Our Lord Jesus Christ amen.

 

[LawofLove]

I have done what I never thought i would do....back slide. I have been under an enormous amount of stress, and as a result have vented to people about my problems with problems. (AKA Gossiping)
My question is this...Do I need to walk do the aisle for alter call again? I am still saved? I still love God but I don't think he is proud of my lately. I hope my salvation is not at risk.

1Jn_3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

1Jn_1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.