The part about you don’t think salvation has happened yet seems to be saying that you can do good works that GOD will honor Before salvation.
um no i think , maybe that’s something you think , that I think brother I didn’t even mention doing good works but if I did insist Christians that
already believe in Jesus be careful to Maintain good works
I would just be doing what scripture said to do
“This is a faithful saying, and these things
I will that thou affirm constantly, that
they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.”
Titus 3:8 KJV
anytime works is mentioned some people begin shouting “ not by works no works required all Grace do nothing your already saved friends “
that’s not what scripture says though what I did actually say is that I don’t consider salvstion to be a done deal already ( this is my own take on my own self )
my view of salvstion is simple Jesus paid the price for our sins according to the law and so now salvation is based on what he said and. I’m longer what Moses said in other words we are saved how Jesus Christ who suffered and died for our sins said we are saved forever.
that we all Have to give our own accounting of all our deeds and life’s work to Jesus between Jesus and the believer he died for and that he has already told us how he is going to judge us of course by the word the messiah spoke before they killed him for it , all
Mankind will be judged by that word his word is irrevocable he is the one who decides is saved and who is cast away when they face judgement by his word
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
2 Corinthians 5:10-11 KJV
in my view brother that includes me and I’m aware of who died for
My sins it’s the same person I have to go give an accounting to for all I did in my body good or bad
so for Me personally to say “I’m saved “ doesn’t really fit I guess our faith is shaped a bit differently
“But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.”
1 Corinthians 4:3-5
I believe we have to follow the lords ways , we can only do that by hearing and believing his word of eternal
Life in the gospel when he taught those who believed he was also saying “ you will never die , never be condemned , I’m making a home for you in Gods eternal house , you will be made free knowing the truth “ even though you die you will live “
his words brother promise eternal life berses from Paul saying “ your saved by grace through faith , so no one can boast . You are created in Christ for the purpose of doing the good works set before you “
That isn’t meant to be a complete doctrine like people wrote about these days it’s just one element of one segment of one subject in Paul’s letters all of the rest of the letters applies also that’s what sort of builds faith when we let in the thkngs that press us to live better lives and do better works
for instance
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”
Ephesians 2:8-10 KJV
truer words never spoken brother amen
but also this no truer words ever spoken
“Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. For
this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
For ye
were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord:
walk as children of light: (For
the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth)
Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.”
Ephesians 5:1-10
one doesn’t cancel the other out it’s part of the same letter to same group of people just your average believer like us even. Salvstion in my own view is a promise from Jesus that if we hear and believe and convert to him hearing his word and following after him believing what he’s saying and telling us then the promise will be fulfilled
all this was said by the one who later suffered and died for our sins and rose as he had spoken and said he would. The one who did that for us had a lot to say about his eternal Judgement and how to be saved that fully applies is my belief Jesus defines salvation before he goes to the cross
I hope you and your wife are well...
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