Benny Hinn

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RickShafer

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finnsbane said:
This is completely untrue, and this is likely what people like Benny Hinn will say. Unfortunately, it is a complete misrepresentation and twisting of the Gospel. Everything you have listed here are the byproducts of one, singular fact: whether or not you stand on the unmerited perfect imputed righteousness of Christ alone, through faith alone. That's it (Romans 3:21-26, Ephesians 2:8-10, Romans 11:6, 2 Timothy 1:8-9). The things you listed most definitely ought to be pursued fervently, but your efforts to accomplish them, in your own power, is entirely futile. The desire and even the power to pursue those things are the work of the Holy Spirit, who spurs the believer on towards righteousness, but we must understand our position now, which if we are in Christ, is totally righteous before the Lord. Make no mistake brothers, any and all attempts or efforts to be a "holy man of God" or righteous at all, is a works based righteousness which is altogether worthless in the sight of God. (Romans 3:20, Isaiah 64:6) This is made more clear in Romans 8:8-11, note verse 10: the body is dead because of sin, but the Holy Spirit is Life, because of righteousness, and not ours. Finally then, note the necessity of faith in Christ discussed in Hebrews 11.

So, what makes a mighty man of God? Faith in Christ. Alone.
Remember, for those who are in Christ, God does not see our sinful wickedness, but instead sees the righteousness of His Son Jesus who gives us His perfection and righteousness through the shedding of His perfect blood on the cross, where He took our place.

I hope this is helpful and encourages your faith in Christ. All glory and honor be to Him alone who is worthy!
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This is wholly wrong. I am a calvinist, as such I receive much grief for relying on nothing more than the grace of God through His Son.
But everything the annointedshepherd said was correct. What he said in short hand is called the effectual working of grace in the believer's life.
It is ALL a work of grace. A work of God, but it is a work nonetheless.
 
onlinebuddy

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GreenNnice said:
Wrong. What matters is that the person has faith who is being healed ?

I'm not sure about Benny Hinn, himself, who he is, as far as preaching goes, but, those who are His KNOWS God is saying something to them. So WHAT that a preacher is false, to a believer in Christ, crucified with Christ, the Spirit of GOD KNOWS what's being said and He , NOT Hinn, NOT noooooobody else reveals His truth to you. The Lord leads. Be blessed, bro :)

Hey, YOU don't think God can work things for the destruction of people who cast evil on YOU by revealing to you His truth, protecting you in the midst of those wolves in sheep's clothing ?? Be real :)



Not sure what's being said here, stay strong in the faith, with the faith of Elijah, and, you will be OK, no matter who bothers you for physical ailments, or, anything else, for God is with you, just like He was with Elijah when those boys mocked Elijah, calling him a 'baldhead.' God entered in and those FORTY-TWO youth were ATTACKed by a bear and KILLED !!!

HEY!, we need to realize that God KNOWS ! :)


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Throughout my post, I'm not giving a care about Benny Hinn, except, I hope and pray that Hinn does his healing work THAT I SAW IN THE TACOMA DOME, I mentioned , of 'wheelchair bound people walking,' fo God's glory and not Hinn's own , for WE ALL KNOW that never works :( But , yeah, WHAT A NIGHT in 1996 ! That night went on and on and I just sat there, saying, 'Really, God.' And, by Hebrews 11:1, and, by my belief in my Saviour, I knew, 'Really, God.' :)


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Wrong. What matters is that the person has faith who is being healed ?
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What is wrong? Can you please specify what exactly you are pointing at?

those who are His KNOWS God is saying something to them.
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Don't we know what God is saying by reading the Bible? The bible is reasonable, objective and is either black or white. No grey area. Many who claim to listen to the voice of God are actually led by their emotions and end up with a subjective interpretation. We see the result of subjective interpretations on TV. The followers of these TV evangelists would rather tune in and wait for God to reveal, than read the written instruction already available in the Bible. Therefore they believe anything any preacher is saying; because they don't read their Bibles.
So WHAT that a preacher is false,
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We are talking about a man who takes the liberty to say what God hasn't said, and you still defend someone who calls the preacher a mighty man of God?
So WHAT that a preacher is false, to a believer in Christ, crucified with Christ, the Spirit of GOD KNOWS what's being said and He , NOT Hinn, NOT noooooobody else reveals His truth to you.
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Listening to the voice of God through a false preacher is one thing; and defending the false preacher is another thing. I understand that you focus on what is being said and not who is saying it; but why make the person a "mighty man" of God?

Hey, YOU don't think God can work things for the destruction of people who cast evil on YOU by revealing to you His truth, protecting you in the midst of those wolves in sheep's clothing ?? Be real :)
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God gives that discernment and revelation to those who obey his Word and His Word is the Bible. So the emphasis is on reading and understanding the Word of God.
 
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onlinebro, I thought the whole post was wrong, LOL, it wasn't any one thing but, just one thing, I don't judge Benny Hinn's work, I've seen it, and, I've seen him in person and on tv and I just don't see ANY credit to self from Benny Hinn, and, the work Hinn does is mighty, the Lord works through Hinn. I don't give a care about IF Hinn's heart is right, I can't see Hinn's heart, and, if I'm off, Hinn is really a self-serving , give-glory-to-self kind of guy, then, Hinn will get 'his' from God when it's Hinn's time to be disciplined, IF he is a Christian and saved . And, if not, oh well, Hinn will go to the Lake of Fire, which God has planned out that kind of wickedness too . God WORKS through others who are not leading you to God too, as, His Spirit WILL speak to us, for His Spirit reveals all things to us, IF we believe, through faith in Him , prayer, etc. The Lord leads :)

Anyway, I can tell we will be in disagreement over this, because I'm clear--in my own mind, anyway--on what I'm saying to you and I can't explain how God heals us any better than I have and who the Healer really is when we are healed by someone else :)
 
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onlinebuddy

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RickShafer said:
This is wholly wrong. I am a calvinist, as such I receive much grief for relying on nothing more than the grace of God through His Son.
But everything the annointedshepherd said was correct. What he said in short hand is called the effectual working of grace in the believer's life.
It is ALL a work of grace. A work of God, but it is a work nonetheless.
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The gospel is so simple that even unschooled ordinary men could understand it. Why are we so philosophical about it?
 
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RickShafer said:
This is wholly wrong. I am a calvinist, as such I receive much grief for relying on nothing more than the grace of God through His Son.
But everything the annointedshepherd said was correct. What he said in short hand is called the effectual working of grace in the believer's life.
It is ALL a work of grace. A work of God, but it is a work nonetheless.
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Sorry for not making this more clear previously. Annointedshepherd in an earlier post called Benny Hinn a mighty man of God, to which he was asked the question, "how does a man become mighty?" My quotation from him was his answer, which as you can see, mentions no justification of faith, based on the atoning and finished work of Christ on the cross. Much of what you write is a restating of what I have previously posted. So my post was not in fact, wholly wrong. It is certainly all of work of grace, neither my work, nor my grace and I thank God for this.. Again, sorry for the confusion.

God bless
 
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False teaching directly against the words of Jesus Christ.

Matt 26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always. (KJV)
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Thats not a false teaching Brother although Christ took the Curse of Poverty away from THOSE WHO BELIEVE that does not count for the people who have not come to Christ and the Bible also says
But Christ has rescued us from the curse pronounced by the law. When he was hung on the cross, he took upon himself the curse for our wrongdoing. For it is written in the Scriptures, "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." Galatians 3:13
 
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annointedshepherd said:
Christ took the Curse of Poverty away from THOSE WHO BELIEVE that does not count for the people who have not come to Christ and the Bible also says But Christ has rescued us from the curse pronounced by the law.
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There is not a single inference to financial or monetary affliction in the mosaic law, though Christ has most certainly freed us from the law of sin and death (Romans 8:2).
 
Agricola

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Amazing how people do not want to see the Elephant in the room. Anything attributed to Hinn can not and should not be trusted, he is a false prophet, thats not just me using the usual cliche to throw around, Hinn has siad he has had prophecy from God and gave it in name of Jesus, it failed. He has not repented or apologised in public as he should have.

False prophecy is extremly serious and not something that should be swept under the carpet, like his supporters always do.

Hinn is a false prophet and can not be trusted. The End.
 
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annointedshepherd said:
Benny Hinn has walked the path for a long time He is a father in the faith and God has brought Him up to be a mighty man of God
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I believe that Benny Hinn is nothing short of Satan's disciple. The Holy Spirit does not work in ways that Benny Hinn shows. And when I see any kind of man evangelize for the word of God, and there is money & popularity involved, that is a sign of the Devil. Freely you have received, freely give. There are SO many things that Benny Hinn does contradictory to the word of God, that I don't even want to talk about him anymore. He is blasphemous.
 
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As a matter of fact, I personally know a man who went to see Benny Hinn for his physical ailment, in hopes that Benny Hinn would heal him. He not only NEVER got healed, but what he saw there was revolting. He said this man is NOT a Christian and he would never go to see him again. My friend saw some of the behind the scene things, and he said Satan is only deceiving thousands of people to think that Benny Hinn is a man of God. He said NO WAY.
 
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